John Kelly blew up at Trump in Oval Office meeting, threatened to quit
Source: Axios
White House Chief of Staff John Kelly threatened to quit on March 28, according to sources familiar with the events.
What I'm hearing: Kelly blew up at Trump in an Oval Office meeting that day, and while walking back to his office muttered he was going to quit. Sources said it was not related to the David Shulkin firing that happened the same day.
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He was fired up enough that colleagues got allies to call in to calm him down.
At one point DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen perhaps the person in the administration he trusts most came over to talk him off the ledge.
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Read more: https://www.axios.com/john-kelly-trump-oval-office-meeting-threatened-quit-f29667d3-d99f-4e23-92f6-9c48c360722b.html
vlyons
(10,252 posts)not one bit
lame54
(35,284 posts)RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)catbyte
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Grammy23
(5,810 posts)He is there of his own free will. Maybe he thinks he is saving us from tRumps craziness. But all he is doing is tarnishing what is left of his own ragged reputation. He should have never come into this den of snakes or at least should have gotten out at the first whiff of what tRump is all about. So nope. Not even a rats ass to give for that guy.
dalton99a
(81,451 posts)magicarpet
(14,144 posts).... Nazi meat-grinder down(tRdump) - but Kelly humored him and coddled him because Kelly is likely a Nazi meat-grinder himself. Or he acts just like one.
This is a Democracy not a Fascist Oligarchy... get with the program or get out.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)groundloop
(11,518 posts)Not that I really have any sympathy for John Kelly, but it takes someone who's an extremely incompetent leader as well as an utter uncaring asshole to create a work environment such as the White House has become. 45* (aka Spanky) tries to claim he's such a great leader, but this is yet another example of how he's just the opposite.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Pure and simple enabling. And getting sicker himself in the process.
Those "blow ups" he has had are his psyche trying to warn him how toxic it all is.
toxic people make every one around them unhealthy.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,674 posts)winstars
(4,220 posts)Proud liberal 80
(4,167 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)Boomeranged back at em! Use their same words!
no_hypocrisy
(46,080 posts)barbtries
(28,787 posts)trump is so sick that he enjoys it. he thrives on it because it reminds him constantly of how important and powerful he is.
don't even get me started on the fucking republicans who stand by with their thumbs up their asses.
we're losing the country. we're losing our democracy. future shock. it's happening so fast it's a test trying to keep part of the way up on the daily disasters.
bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)benld74
(9,904 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)7962
(11,841 posts)I think THAT would get the attention of many who aren't totally brainwashed
mountain grammy
(26,619 posts)riversedge
(70,189 posts)JI7
(89,247 posts)going against trump.
7962
(11,841 posts)Cold War Spook
(1,279 posts)jump, jump, jump, jump
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)Princess daughter (and object of his lust) just waltz in and out to see Daddy anytime that she wants.
Besides, Cadet 'Bone Spurs' has the BEST mind, the BEST words. The idiot actually thinks he can run the entire show by himself. After all, he ran all his businesses! (ran them into bankruptcy). Tillerson was right: "Fucking moron".
SergeStorms
(19,193 posts)the first time you even thought about quitting, but didn't.
This just goes to show how "Trump's" Generals are nothing but order takers, and not the "stabilizing forces" they were touted as being.
Bugger off, John!
maxrandb
(15,322 posts)the second he supported Donnie Short Fingers and took a job with him.
Kelly is fucking scum who has used his military rank and his own sons rotting corpse to lend legitimacy to the illegitimate.
He's used his military background to normalize and advance fascism and racism.
In a perfect world he'd be busted down to E1 and his pension would be siezed.
There's a special place in hell for folks who use their military prestige and reputation to uphold evil.
He's a fucking prick of the highest order.
Fuck him. I can't think of anything bad enough that could happen to him that would account for how he has misused the honor, integrity and reputation of an officer in the United States military.
We need to stop calling him a general and start calling him a field marshall
brush
(53,764 posts)scandal righ under his nose, and on and on and on.
He likes the illusion of power that he allegedly has (not).
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,994 posts)Ilsa
(61,694 posts)that trump will find a place for him in his cabinet after Beto beats cruz in November. Maybe AG?
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)montana_hazeleyes
(3,424 posts)matt819
(10,749 posts)Four star marine general?
What garbage! A career in tatters because of one year serving a fascist. Would love an advance look at his obit.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,563 posts)Behold the field whence my fucks are grown, and see that it is barren.
lastlib
(23,213 posts)Docreed2003
(16,858 posts)3catwoman3
(23,973 posts)Excellent turn of phrase.
HuskyOffset
(888 posts)rurallib
(62,406 posts)and give him a few swats on the ass.
And then quit.
GreydeeThos
(958 posts)Kelly believes in the concept of "Chain of Command" where directives start at the top and filter down each level. Trump believes in the concept of the all powerful CEO who can give orders to anyone in the organization from the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff right on down to the contract house keeper cleaning the windows. To a military guy, jumping over the Chain of Command is a complete breach of protocol.
getagrip_already
(14,708 posts)If he is acting duty, and just on loan to the WH, trump has him by the nads. You can't just quit or even retire from the military. You can be stopped and court marshalled if you don't do it properly, and on the military's timetable.
Maxheader
(4,372 posts)Jfarrar3645
(14 posts)extvbroadcaster
(343 posts)Kelly like the rest of them keep thinking Trump is rational. He's not just an asshole, and corrupt, and incompetent - he's in the early stage of dementia. He can't understand simple talking points and won't accept any contrary opinions. Hold on, and hope we can vote him out before the whole country burns down.
Hong Kong Cavalier
(4,572 posts)Tough shit, asshole.
Cha
(297,154 posts)Skittles
(153,150 posts)he is surely helping Trump fuck America
Cha
(297,154 posts)about this shite?
James48
(4,435 posts)I hope you all can understand and appreciate the big tent when I say this:
I am glad John Kelly is there right now, because I think he keeps a little of Trump in check.
I would hate to think who is going to get that job next.
I am no fan of Kelly, but at least I think he does have some influence - maybe just a little- there. And the possibilities of nuclear holocost if Trump had free reign without any influence from sane people could be worse.
MFM008
(19,805 posts)Drama and chaos.
Its how he gets off.