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highplainsdem

(48,968 posts)
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 03:28 PM Apr 2018

John Kelly blew up at Trump in Oval Office meeting, threatened to quit

Source: Axios

White House Chief of Staff John Kelly threatened to quit on March 28, according to sources familiar with the events.

What I'm hearing: Kelly blew up at Trump in an Oval Office meeting that day, and while walking back to his office muttered he was going to quit. Sources said it was not related to the David Shulkin firing that happened the same day.

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He was fired up enough that colleagues got allies to call in to calm him down.

At one point DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen — perhaps the person in the administration he trusts most — came over to talk him off the ledge.

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Read more: https://www.axios.com/john-kelly-trump-oval-office-meeting-threatened-quit-f29667d3-d99f-4e23-92f6-9c48c360722b.html

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John Kelly blew up at Trump in Oval Office meeting, threatened to quit (Original Post) highplainsdem Apr 2018 OP
I don't feel sorry for Kelly vlyons Apr 2018 #1
Four star jackass lame54 Apr 2018 #24
A racist, misogynist 4-star jackass RandomAccess Apr 2018 #33
attention hog Angry Dragon Apr 2018 #2
At this point... catbyte Apr 2018 #3
Im not even giving a rats ass about his angst. Grammy23 Apr 2018 #20
Just do it, asshole dalton99a Apr 2018 #4
Kelly could have reined in and shut this ..... magicarpet Apr 2018 #5
Isn't this like the fifth or sixth time he's threatened to quit? Drunken Irishman Apr 2018 #6
It takes a special kind of asshole to create such a toxic work environment groundloop Apr 2018 #7
Plus,.Kelly is enabling Trump by trying to clean up his messes. dixiegrrrrl Apr 2018 #10
So quit already. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2018 #8
An empty barrel makes the most noise!!! winstars Apr 2018 #9
You win the internet for today! Proud liberal 80 Apr 2018 #27
I love a great dose of sarcasm lunatica Apr 2018 #34
He'll quit -- as soon as he's signed a book contract. no_hypocrisy Apr 2018 #11
who needs this kind of fucking drama non-stop? barbtries Apr 2018 #12
+10000000 bronxiteforever Apr 2018 #18
Entire Administration needs to GO benld74 Apr 2018 #13
Every time someone leaves they are replaced by someone even worse oberliner Apr 2018 #14
Wouldn't it be something if a bunch quit all at the same time?? 7962 Apr 2018 #21
Go ahead and jump off that ledge, Kelly. Just do it. mountain grammy Apr 2018 #15
well, it has been about 10 days, seems the nanny decided to stay. riversedge Apr 2018 #16
I think Kelly is leaking this so he can try to make it like he was JI7 Apr 2018 #17
Ahhhhhhh good theory. nt 7962 Apr 2018 #22
jump, jump, jump, jump, Cold War Spook Apr 2018 #19
I don't think Twittler would give a shit if Kelly quits. Kelly is MEAN and won't let the precious... PearliePoo2 Apr 2018 #23
John, you gave up any chance of keeping your self respect..... SergeStorms Apr 2018 #25
He gave up his self respect maxrandb Apr 2018 #49
He full of it. HE should've quit long ago...Fredica Wilson, Rob Porter, the no security clearances.. brush Apr 2018 #26
Probably Pruitt. A previous report said Kelly wanted Pruitt fired and tRump over-rode him. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2018 #28
Trump is taking ted cruz's advice on keeping pruitt. My guess is Ilsa Apr 2018 #36
More fake exits than a James Brown concert. Scurrilous Apr 2018 #29
Oh good one! montana_hazeleyes Apr 2018 #52
Wah wah wah matt819 Apr 2018 #30
Lo! BobTheSubgenius Apr 2018 #31
(I gotta borrow that one!!) lastlib Apr 2018 #40
Lmao...well played Docreed2003 Apr 2018 #41
Shakespearean! 3catwoman3 Apr 2018 #45
Graphical version HuskyOffset Apr 2018 #46
kelly is a highly paid baby sitter - Time to pull the babes pants down rurallib Apr 2018 #32
Kelly is military and Trump is not GreydeeThos Apr 2018 #35
is kelly sstill active duty or retired? getagrip_already Apr 2018 #38
Another 'tweet fire"? Maxheader Apr 2018 #37
If Kelly had any ethics or morals he would have quit a long time ago Jfarrar3645 Apr 2018 #39
Obviously not used to dealing with dementia extvbroadcaster Apr 2018 #42
Tangeranus not being the right kind of fascist Kelly wants him to be? Hong Kong Cavalier Apr 2018 #43
+1! Cha Apr 2018 #48
Kelly can go fuck himself Skittles Apr 2018 #44
LEAKERS! Or how would we hear Cha Apr 2018 #47
Look, Im different. James48 Apr 2018 #50
Maggot loves the MFM008 Apr 2018 #51

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
20. Im not even giving a rats ass about his angst.
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 04:44 PM
Apr 2018


He is there of his own free will. Maybe he thinks he is saving us from tRump’s craziness. But all he is doing is tarnishing what is left of his own ragged reputation. He should have never come into this den of snakes or at least should have gotten out at the first whiff of what tRump is all about. So nope. Not even a rat’s ass to give for that guy.

magicarpet

(14,144 posts)
5. Kelly could have reined in and shut this .....
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 03:46 PM
Apr 2018

.... Nazi meat-grinder down(tRdump) - but Kelly humored him and coddled him because Kelly is likely a Nazi meat-grinder himself. Or he acts just like one.

This is a Democracy not a Fascist Oligarchy... get with the program or get out.

groundloop

(11,518 posts)
7. It takes a special kind of asshole to create such a toxic work environment
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 03:47 PM
Apr 2018

Not that I really have any sympathy for John Kelly, but it takes someone who's an extremely incompetent leader as well as an utter uncaring asshole to create a work environment such as the White House has become. 45* (aka Spanky) tries to claim he's such a great leader, but this is yet another example of how he's just the opposite.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
10. Plus,.Kelly is enabling Trump by trying to clean up his messes.
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 03:55 PM
Apr 2018

Pure and simple enabling. And getting sicker himself in the process.
Those "blow ups" he has had are his psyche trying to warn him how toxic it all is.

toxic people make every one around them unhealthy.

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
12. who needs this kind of fucking drama non-stop?
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 04:06 PM
Apr 2018

trump is so sick that he enjoys it. he thrives on it because it reminds him constantly of how important and powerful he is.

don't even get me started on the fucking republicans who stand by with their thumbs up their asses.

we're losing the country. we're losing our democracy. future shock. it's happening so fast it's a test trying to keep part of the way up on the daily disasters.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
21. Wouldn't it be something if a bunch quit all at the same time??
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 04:49 PM
Apr 2018

I think THAT would get the attention of many who aren't totally brainwashed

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
23. I don't think Twittler would give a shit if Kelly quits. Kelly is MEAN and won't let the precious...
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 04:57 PM
Apr 2018

Princess daughter (and object of his lust) just waltz in and out to see Daddy anytime that she wants.

Besides, Cadet 'Bone Spurs' has the BEST mind, the BEST words. The idiot actually thinks he can run the entire show by himself. After all, he ran all his businesses! (ran them into bankruptcy). Tillerson was right: "Fucking moron".

SergeStorms

(19,193 posts)
25. John, you gave up any chance of keeping your self respect.....
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 05:13 PM
Apr 2018

the first time you even thought about quitting, but didn't.

This just goes to show how "Trump's" Generals are nothing but order takers, and not the "stabilizing forces" they were touted as being.

Bugger off, John!

maxrandb

(15,322 posts)
49. He gave up his self respect
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 08:12 AM
Apr 2018

the second he supported Donnie Short Fingers and took a job with him.

Kelly is fucking scum who has used his military rank and his own sons rotting corpse to lend legitimacy to the illegitimate.

He's used his military background to normalize and advance fascism and racism.

In a perfect world he'd be busted down to E1 and his pension would be siezed.

There's a special place in hell for folks who use their military prestige and reputation to uphold evil.

He's a fucking prick of the highest order.

Fuck him. I can't think of anything bad enough that could happen to him that would account for how he has misused the honor, integrity and reputation of an officer in the United States military.

We need to stop calling him a general and start calling him a field marshall

brush

(53,764 posts)
26. He full of it. HE should've quit long ago...Fredica Wilson, Rob Porter, the no security clearances..
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 05:21 PM
Apr 2018

scandal righ under his nose, and on and on and on.

He likes the illusion of power that he allegedly has (not).

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
36. Trump is taking ted cruz's advice on keeping pruitt. My guess is
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 06:33 PM
Apr 2018

that trump will find a place for him in his cabinet after Beto beats cruz in November. Maybe AG?

matt819

(10,749 posts)
30. Wah wah wah
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 05:41 PM
Apr 2018

Four star marine general?

What garbage! A career in tatters because of one year serving a fascist. Would love an advance look at his obit.

rurallib

(62,406 posts)
32. kelly is a highly paid baby sitter - Time to pull the babes pants down
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 06:10 PM
Apr 2018

and give him a few swats on the ass.

And then quit.

GreydeeThos

(958 posts)
35. Kelly is military and Trump is not
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 06:25 PM
Apr 2018

Kelly believes in the concept of "Chain of Command" where directives start at the top and filter down each level. Trump believes in the concept of the all powerful CEO who can give orders to anyone in the organization from the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff right on down to the contract house keeper cleaning the windows. To a military guy, jumping over the Chain of Command is a complete breach of protocol.

getagrip_already

(14,708 posts)
38. is kelly sstill active duty or retired?
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 06:37 PM
Apr 2018

If he is acting duty, and just on loan to the WH, trump has him by the nads. You can't just quit or even retire from the military. You can be stopped and court marshalled if you don't do it properly, and on the military's timetable.

extvbroadcaster

(343 posts)
42. Obviously not used to dealing with dementia
Sat Apr 7, 2018, 07:28 PM
Apr 2018

Kelly like the rest of them keep thinking Trump is rational. He's not just an asshole, and corrupt, and incompetent - he's in the early stage of dementia. He can't understand simple talking points and won't accept any contrary opinions. Hold on, and hope we can vote him out before the whole country burns down.

James48

(4,435 posts)
50. Look, Im different.
Sun Apr 8, 2018, 12:20 PM
Apr 2018

I hope you all can understand and appreciate the “big tent” when I say this:

I am glad John Kelly is there right now, because I think he keeps a little of Trump in check.

I would hate to think who is going to get that job next.

I am no fan of Kelly, but at least I think he does have some influence - maybe just a little- there. And the possibilities of nuclear holocost if Trump had free reign without any influence from sane people could be worse.

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