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herding cats

(19,558 posts)
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 06:10 PM Mar 2018

Source: Mueller pushed for Gates' help on collusion

Source: CNN

(CNN)Special counsel Robert Mueller's team last year made clear it wanted former Trump campaign deputy Rick Gates' help, not so much against his former business partner Paul Manafort, but with its central mission: investigating the Trump campaign's contact with the Russians. New information disclosed in court filings and to CNN this week begin to show how they're getting it.

In a court filing earlier this week, the public saw the first signs of how the Mueller team plans to use information from Gates to tie Manafort, the former Trump campaign chairman, directly to a Russian intelligence agency. Mueller's team alleges that Gates was in contact with a close colleague of Manafort's who worked for a Russian intelligence agency -- and that Gates knew of the spy service ties in September and October 2016, while he worked on the Trump campaign. Gates would have to talk about the communication with the man if prosecutors wanted, according to his plea deal.

That's in line with what prosecutors told Gates months ago during high-stakes negotiations, CNN has learned. They told him they didn't need his cooperation against Manafort, according to a person familiar with the investigation, and instead wanted to hear what he knew about contact between the Trump campaign and Russians.
The extent of Gates' knowledge about any such contact or what he told prosecutors hasn't been made public.

As part of Gates' agreement to cooperate with the special counsel a month ago, he earned a vastly reduced potential sentence and had several charges dropped in two criminal cases against him.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/29/politics/mueller-gates-russia-investigation-contacts/index.html?adkey=bn

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Source: Mueller pushed for Gates' help on collusion (Original Post) herding cats Mar 2018 OP
Would anything about this revelation cross the line into espionage? Fiendish Thingy Mar 2018 #1
Probably not, unless they expanded the definition of "warfare" to include "information warfare." pnwmom Mar 2018 #2
you mean treason, not espionage.... getagrip_already Mar 2018 #3
These boys are in trouble SL1 Mar 2018 #4

Fiendish Thingy

(15,555 posts)
1. Would anything about this revelation cross the line into espionage?
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 06:28 PM
Mar 2018

That would be a powerful incentive for Gates to cooperate, to avoid an espionage charge.

Manafort is likely screwed, espionage charge or not.

pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
2. Probably not, unless they expanded the definition of "warfare" to include "information warfare."
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 06:30 PM
Mar 2018

(Which might happen someday, but maybe not yet.) But there are plenty of other serious charges they could be convicted of.

getagrip_already

(14,647 posts)
3. you mean treason, not espionage....
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 07:36 PM
Mar 2018

Espionage does not require a state of war. Neither does sedition. Treason does however.

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