Mon Mar 19, 2018, 03:03 PM
swag (26,395 posts)
Revealed: Trumps election consultants filmed saying they use bribes and sex workers to entrap polit
Source: Channel 4 (Britain)
Senior executives at Cambridge Analytica – the data company that credits itself with Donald Trump’s presidential victory – have been secretly filmed saying they could entrap politicians in compromising situations with bribes and Ukrainian sex workers. In an undercover investigation by Channel 4 News, the company’s chief executive Alexander Nix said the British firm secretly campaigns in elections across the world. This includes operating through a web of shadowy front companies, or by using sub-contractors. In one exchange, when asked about digging up material on political opponents, Mr Nix said they could “send some girls around to the candidate’s house”, adding that Ukrainian girls “are very beautiful, I find that works very well”. In another he said: “We’ll offer a large amount of money to the candidate, to finance his campaign in exchange for land for instance, we’ll have the whole thing recorded, we’ll blank out the face of our guy and we post it on the Internet.” The admissions were filmed at a series of meetings at London hotels over four months, between November 2017 and January 2018. An undercover reporter for Channel 4 News posed as a fixer for a wealthy client hoping to get candidates elected in Sri Lanka. Read more: https://www.channel4.com/news/cambridge-analytica-revealed-trumps-election-consultants-filmed-saying-they-use-bribes-and-sex-workers-to-entrap-politicians-investigation
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swag | Mar 2018 | OP |
Bernardo de La Paz | Mar 2018 | #1 | |
herding cats | Mar 2018 | #2 | |
sarcasmo | Mar 2018 | #41 | |
swag | Mar 2018 | #3 | |
SpankMe | Mar 2018 | #4 | |
herding cats | Mar 2018 | #5 | |
DBoon | Mar 2018 | #9 | |
herding cats | Mar 2018 | #11 | |
DBoon | Mar 2018 | #42 | |
LanternWaste | Mar 2018 | #20 | |
Squinch | Mar 2018 | #27 | |
Pepsidog | Mar 2018 | #35 | |
TubbersUK | Mar 2018 | #28 | |
ewagner | Mar 2018 | #31 | |
TubbersUK | Mar 2018 | #36 | |
ewagner | Mar 2018 | #43 | |
bucolic_frolic | Mar 2018 | #6 | |
Bernardo de La Paz | Mar 2018 | #13 | |
bucolic_frolic | Mar 2018 | #14 | |
Bernardo de La Paz | Mar 2018 | #15 | |
erronis | Mar 2018 | #7 | |
LiberalLovinLug | Mar 2018 | #16 | |
Squinch | Mar 2018 | #29 | |
herding cats | Mar 2018 | #8 | |
BigmanPigman | Mar 2018 | #18 | |
herding cats | Mar 2018 | #19 | |
BigmanPigman | Mar 2018 | #21 | |
herding cats | Mar 2018 | #23 | |
Hermit-The-Prog | Mar 2018 | #24 | |
herding cats | Mar 2018 | #26 | |
Iliyah | Mar 2018 | #10 | |
barbtries | Mar 2018 | #12 | |
IronLionZion | Mar 2018 | #17 | |
barbtries | Mar 2018 | #22 | |
Honeycombe8 | Mar 2018 | #25 | |
Squinch | Mar 2018 | #30 | |
Bradical79 | Mar 2018 | #33 | |
Honeycombe8 | Mar 2018 | #38 | |
red dog 1 | Mar 2018 | #32 | |
rufnear | Mar 2018 | #34 | |
JawJaw | Mar 2018 | #37 | |
SleeplessinSoCal | Mar 2018 | #39 | |
Turbineguy | Mar 2018 | #40 |
Response to swag (Original post)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 03:06 PM
Bernardo de La Paz (44,668 posts)
1. First I've heard that CA does dirty tricks beyond just analytics. Explosive is right. . . . nt
Response to swag (Original post)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 03:07 PM
herding cats (18,896 posts)
2. This is going to be so good!
I cannot wait to see the whole thing.
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Response to herding cats (Reply #2)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 06:20 PM
sarcasmo (22,937 posts)
41. Facebook dropped 13% today.
Response to swag (Original post)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 03:07 PM
swag (26,395 posts)
3. This is part of the Channel 4 expose on Cambridge Analytica that went live a few minutes ago..
Response to swag (Original post)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 03:08 PM
SpankMe (2,593 posts)
4. Sounds tantalizing
But, this is one of those "sounds-too-good-to-be-true" stories meant to rile liberals. (I know, because I'm riled.) I'm skeptical until I hear it from a couple of other news outlets with independent sources.
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Response to SpankMe (Reply #4)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 03:10 PM
herding cats (18,896 posts)
5. Watch the video in the OP and see what you think.
I'm watching it now... so far it seems well done.
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Response to SpankMe (Reply #4)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 03:17 PM
DBoon (20,848 posts)
9. too much like project veritas for me
The ones being entrapped could be viewers of the video
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Response to DBoon (Reply #9)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 03:26 PM
herding cats (18,896 posts)
11. Channel 4 news is nothing like project veritas.
Channel 4 News Edit
Channel 4 News is the name of Channel 4's award-winning flagship evening news programme. The editor is Ben de Pear, appointed in July 2012.[1] The programme is presented by Jon Snow, Krishnan Guru-Murthy, Cathy Newman and Matt Frei and is on the air Monday to Thursday from 7 to 7:55 pm, Friday from 7 to 7:30 pm, and at variable times on weekends. Alex Thomson is the chief correspondent. Channel 4 News is among the highest-rated television programmes in the United Kingdom, winning a record five Royal Television Society Television Awards in February 2006. These included TV Journalist of the Year for Jon Snow, Home News Award for the Attorney General leak, and the International News Award for Congo's Tin Soldiers. It won the News Coverage British Academy Television Award in 2004 and the 2004 International Emmy for the best news programme produced and aired outside the United States. Jon Snow won the Richard Dimbleby British Academy Television Award in 2005 for outstanding contribution to the world of news and current affairs. In November 2011, Liam Dutton became Channel 4's first ever weather presenter, joining from BBC Weather.[2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_4_News#Historical_roles |
Response to herding cats (Reply #11)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 09:13 PM
DBoon (20,848 posts)
42. OK, I was wrong
I've learned to be suspicious of this sort of thing, but Channel 4 looks to be very reputable
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Response to DBoon (Reply #9)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 04:08 PM
LanternWaste (37,748 posts)
20. "Too much like..." in what specific way?
"Too much like..." in what specific way?
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Response to DBoon (Reply #9)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 04:26 PM
Squinch (47,268 posts)
27. Project veritas doctors tapes to suggest people are doing things they aren't doing.
These guys are talking on tape about fixing elections all over the world.
Not really seeing the similarity. No one is being entrapped here. They are selling their service. |
Response to Squinch (Reply #27)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 05:07 PM
Pepsidog (6,018 posts)
35. Project veritas is a total fraud. Channel 4 nothing like the criminals at veritas
Response to DBoon (Reply #9)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 04:26 PM
TubbersUK (1,427 posts)
28. Channel 4 news is highly reputable n/t
Response to DBoon (Reply #9)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 04:32 PM
ewagner (18,947 posts)
31. I watched the clip with Nix
He made the statement about the "Ukrainian Girls" and then prefaced it with "...not that we WOULD, but we COULD..." He later contradicts himself and says that they "...had done things like that..."
Later on the CEO "walked back" the charges. It seemed to me that they knew they were/had been taped and made the whole thing into a joke.... I wouldn't "hang my hat" on this video. |
Response to ewagner (Reply #31)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 05:09 PM
TubbersUK (1,427 posts)
36. CA contacted the prospective client 7 weeks later to firm up the deal
So it appears that Nix didn't know that he was being taped
This was mentioned by Channel 4 in the discussion following the broadcast. |
Response to TubbersUK (Reply #36)
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 06:53 AM
ewagner (18,947 posts)
43. Thanks...n/t
Response to swag (Original post)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 03:10 PM
bucolic_frolic (36,067 posts)
6. 1990s
Bill and Hillary were overtly against the international slave market in the mid 90s
Go google any major world city - the availability is universal, Middle East, London, Eastern Europe, just about anywhere It's so overt yet so hidden ... out of the spotlight |
Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #6)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 03:35 PM
Bernardo de La Paz (44,668 posts)
13. What prompted that total non sequitur? Wrong thread?
Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #13)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 03:39 PM
bucolic_frolic (36,067 posts)
14. Um ... sex workers is the common theme
miss that?
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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #14)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 03:46 PM
Bernardo de La Paz (44,668 posts)
15. Sex workers? That's all you got? Mata Hari was a sexy spy. Why haven't you mentioned her?
There's as much connection to social media kompromat in 2016-18 from her as from your non-sequitur about the Clintons. But, carry on, I guess. |
Response to swag (Original post)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 03:11 PM
erronis (12,312 posts)
7. CA and lots of others.
Not to diminish the impact of this revelation or, I hope, the punishment.
But these techniques are used throughout the business/political world to get leverage. And there are many other ways to entrap targets - some gentle and friendly, some not. |
Response to erronis (Reply #7)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 03:47 PM
LiberalLovinLug (13,688 posts)
16. The diffference in this case is they may have recorded proof
Response to erronis (Reply #7)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 04:28 PM
Squinch (47,268 posts)
29. These, if it matters to you, are the same guys who mined 50 million facebook accounts
and psychologically profiled them in an effort to put Trump in office.
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Response to swag (Original post)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 03:13 PM
herding cats (18,896 posts)
8. Parts 1 & 2 below.
Response to herding cats (Reply #8)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 04:00 PM
BigmanPigman (48,796 posts)
18. Thanks for putting them together.
I have to send it to my sister who is in S America and needs some news. I saw the top video and another one...Fuckerberg is NOT the "every man" that his US image portrays him to be. He wears suits and ties and speaks Russian and Chinese with ease when he goes to their countries to speak to large groups of businessmen and politicians. He isn't one of the world's richest people by being an innocent, nice t-shirt wearing guy who cares about you and your tech lifestyle needs. He is a greedy businessman who lies and knew what CA was doing in 2015 and did NOTHING but get the Moron elected and get richer by doing so.
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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #18)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 04:05 PM
herding cats (18,896 posts)
19. You're welcome.
Part 3 tomorrow is about the US election in 2016. It should be even better than these first two.
I just posted elsewhere how Zuckerbergs net worth fell by right at $5 billion today. It seems you might enjoy that bit of news, too. ![]() |
Response to herding cats (Reply #19)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 04:12 PM
BigmanPigman (48,796 posts)
21. I just heard Ali Velshi say it on MSNBC when he was speaking with Roger McNamee.
He was on Bill Maher about a month ago and he told Bill that he told Fuckerberg how to make Facebook lucrative and safe...obviously his advice was not welcomed. He was one of the original Facebook people so he knows what he is talking about. I think they said that Facebook gets fined $50,000 for EACH account that isn't safe...there goes his profits. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy!
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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #21)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 04:16 PM
herding cats (18,896 posts)
23. Facebook itself was hit with $37bn of market value lost today.
Seems they should have listened to Ali Velshi.
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Response to herding cats (Reply #19)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 04:22 PM
Hermit-The-Prog (27,162 posts)
24. thanks and ...
Thanks a bunch for linking those!
Suggestion -- could you edit the above post to include part 3 when it comes out? |
Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #24)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 04:24 PM
herding cats (18,896 posts)
26. I'll add part 3 in tomorrow
Just to keep them all in one place.
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Response to swag (Original post)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 03:23 PM
Iliyah (25,111 posts)
10. OK, that's one the the oldest game in town.
Hmmmmmm, wondered if Russia did that to t-rump??????????????????????????
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Response to Iliyah (Reply #10)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 03:33 PM
barbtries (27,259 posts)
12. hehehe
of course he did. bad part about it is, trump's cult could not care less. he'll have to be charged and convicted criminally and even after that, some of his followers will continue to worship him.
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Response to barbtries (Reply #12)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 03:58 PM
IronLionZion (41,985 posts)
17. They'll just say fake news, liberals set him up
I'd be much more interested if Pence were somehow caught with male escorts. That would be a game changer.
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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #17)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 04:14 PM
barbtries (27,259 posts)
22. lol
i somehow get the impression that he is not interested in sex at all. he's such a pious little lying snake, but i would be shocked if it turned out he had even cheated on his wife with a woman let alone a man.
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Response to swag (Original post)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 04:23 PM
Honeycombe8 (37,648 posts)
25. I don't find that shocking. Is it supposed to be?
If someone is clean, this would be no problem. Offer me moulah and sex with good looking people...no problem. I don't play that way. I'm a candidate, I would think, and say.
But I'm sure this sort of thing goes on sometimes, and did in the old days, don'tcha think? I'm looking for a connection between Trump and Russia/Putin. The sex workers were Ukranian, it says, so that's close. |
Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #25)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 04:31 PM
Squinch (47,268 posts)
30. CA was the group that psychologically profiled the 50 million Facebook accounts to
manipulate them to get Trump(R) elected. Steve Bannon and the Mercers are founding members of CA and Jared was very open about how much he attributed the campaign's success to CA.
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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #25)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 04:56 PM
Bradical79 (4,490 posts)
33. Stay tuned for tomorrow, this report is part of a series
Something more may come out. Tomorrow they are supposedly going to air more footage where CA explains how the won the election for Donald Trump. There was also a possible Russian connection reported a couple days ago (in the Times maybe?) talking about a Russian oil company approaching CA to discuss how thr company used data to taylor messaging to American voters.
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Response to Bradical79 (Reply #33)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 05:13 PM
Honeycombe8 (37,648 posts)
38. I see. I think the bribe thing is sleazy, but I imagine this goes on sometimes....
and has always gone on. Politics is cutthroat. Maybe it doesn't go on, and I'm just cynical. But I was born and raised in Louisiana, long recognized as one of the most politically corrupt states, so maybe I'm jaded.
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Response to swag (Original post)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 04:58 PM
rufnear (29 posts)
34. And the corruption continues
Nothing new here really. Nothing surprises me with anything "Trump" related. He needs to go...yesterday.
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Response to swag (Original post)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 05:09 PM
JawJaw (722 posts)
37. Just updated their website...
Response to swag (Original post)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 05:51 PM
SleeplessinSoCal (7,843 posts)
39. All Republicans are fine with dirty methods to win elections.
They may not like anything about the POSER, but will defend him to fight immigrants and the black community. This is as clear as day.
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Response to swag (Original post)
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 05:53 PM
Turbineguy (35,819 posts)
40. So it turns out that the
"Deep State" is working for those who profess to hate it while not noticing they are being manipulated by it.
Felix Dzerzhinsky would be impressed. |