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Wed Mar 14, 2018, 12:05 PM

Report: New Zealand Diplomat Told Dems 'Get Your S**t Together Or We Will All Die'

Source: Talking Points Memo




By Matt Shuham | March 14, 2018 11:58 am

After an opinion contributor for the Hill speculated that “a Sanders-Warren ticket could win big in 2020″ last week, New Zealand’s second-ranking diplomat in the United States was blunt: “No it couldn’t. Please get your shit together or we will all die.”

That response from diplomat Caroline Beresford, reported by the Kiwi site Newsroom and flagged by the Hill, wasn’t her only rebuke.

Separately, according to Newsroom, Beresford wrote in response to the post that Democrats had “learned nothing” and “If this is what they have against Trump we should be planning for the eight years.”

“Yes I did send those tweets and realised very quickly that they were inappropriate, which is why I deleted them,” Beresford told Newsroom, which published screenshots of two of the tweets.



Read more: https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/report-new-zealand-diplomat-told-dems-get-your-st-together-or-we-will-all-die

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Reply Report: New Zealand Diplomat Told Dems 'Get Your S**t Together Or We Will All Die' (Original post)
DonViejo Mar 2018 OP
MBS Mar 2018 #1
Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #27
Achilleaze Mar 2018 #2
NewJeffCT Mar 2018 #3
Wwcd Mar 2018 #4
NewJeffCT Mar 2018 #7
Demsrule86 Mar 2018 #28
mtngirl47 Mar 2018 #8
Wwcd Mar 2018 #10
apnu Mar 2018 #17
cannabis_flower Mar 2018 #18
IronLionZion Mar 2018 #21
Wwcd Mar 2018 #23
TheDebbieDee Mar 2018 #26
H2O Man Mar 2018 #5
Aristus Mar 2018 #6
Wwcd Mar 2018 #11
TeamPooka Mar 2018 #9
NastyRiffraff Mar 2018 #12
Maggiemayhem Mar 2018 #13
stevenleser Mar 2018 #14
Maggiemayhem Mar 2018 #15
stevenleser Mar 2018 #25
Maggiemayhem Mar 2018 #16
relayerbob Mar 2018 #19
Maggiemayhem Mar 2018 #20
relayerbob Mar 2018 #31
Cha Mar 2018 #30
IronLionZion Mar 2018 #22
yurbud Mar 2018 #24
Cha Mar 2018 #29

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 12:13 PM

1. She is blunt but correct. n/t

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Response to MBS (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 11:51 PM

27. Tell it to the GOP ...they refuse to allow anyone to stop Trump and sadly are

in charge...just what does 'get your shit together" even mean...we have no power to stop the madman.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 12:14 PM

2. Everyone mistrusts the republicans

and their ignoble Draft-Dodger-in-Chief, Dirty Donnie.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 12:19 PM

3. That's part of being Democrats

we have trouble getting our shit together.

Will Rogers from the late 1920s/1930s "I'm not a member of an organized political party, I'm a Democrat."

That said, I tend to agree. While I like a lot of his political ideas, I think Sanders would have gone the way of George McGovern and Walter Mondale in the general election when some of his past was brought up and amplified through the RW media megaphone.



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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #3)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 12:29 PM

4. The Dems seem to have a few 3rd party spoilers running against the unity of Democrats,

..that I seldom if ever see in the Republican Party.

Who are the 3rd party spoilers in the Republican Party, like Nader, Stein etc that run to divide Democrats?

Are there any?

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Response to Wwcd (Reply #4)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 12:39 PM

7. Last I really remember is John Anderson in 1980

Moderate Republican who broke off and ran as an independent against Reagan and Carter. I think he ended up with 5 or 6% - I think that was the only time my father did not vote Democratic. He was discouraged by Carter (too religious in his eyes) and was scared of Reagan, so voted Anderson.

But, the crazies, kooks and deplorables are all registered Republicans. A large amount of those KKK members have an (R) after their name, and "militia" types like Timothy McVeigh are usually registered Republicans as well. (The numbers in the American Nazi Party are kind of immaterial, like Socialists and Communists are on the left)

If Democrats don't like the Democratic candidate, they have a semi viable national alternative in the Greens. In my state of Connecticut, they also have the Working Families Party.

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #7)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 11:53 PM

28. Guys a libertarian took over 1200 votes in Pennsylvania...so I think he was a spoiler...

and Clinton won because of Perot...we just need GOP spoilers not asshats like Stein and Nader.

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Response to Wwcd (Reply #4)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 12:41 PM

8. Ross Perot in 1992 whose candidacy split the conservative

vote allowing the election of Clinton.

Trump threatened to run independently is he didn't win the Republican nomination...due to it being "rigged."

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Response to mtngirl47 (Reply #8)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 12:45 PM

10. Of course he would threaten. The ONLY candidate that actually had the

..2016 election "rigged" against her was Sec Hillary Clinton.

Yet she never constantly cried out about that claim.


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Response to Wwcd (Reply #4)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 02:01 PM

17. Except, of course, that whole Tea Party movement that's been taking over the GOP. (nt)

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Response to Wwcd (Reply #4)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 02:25 PM

18. Ross Perot

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Response to Wwcd (Reply #4)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 03:06 PM

21. GOP has shifted so far right

that RW third parties don't get many votes. Those would be Constitution party, American Independent party, Reform, etc.

The Libertarian party is actually the largest 3rd party, not Green. L could be a spoiler for GOP on economic issues.

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #21)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 03:12 PM

23. True. But then the Paul vote against Magnitsky played more to Republicans

L's are Koch funded as was the Tea Party.

Maybe that influence is why he voted No.
Oil regulations & all that the Kochs adhere to.
Prhaps that is why the NO vote on Magnitsky.
Had to please the one's who invested in him.

That would reveal a lot.

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #3)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 10:40 PM

26. ...

 

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 12:31 PM

5. Recommended.

I prefer to concentrate on the 2018 elections. We have plenty of time to determine the 2020 presidential ticket after the mid-term elections. And I'm confident that new leadership will emerge by then.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 12:35 PM

6. At this point, anyone left still advocating for Sanders

has got to be a right-winger trolling the political orthodoxy crowd.

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Response to Aristus (Reply #6)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 12:48 PM

11. Yup. They have made it a mission to do so for one specific end game reason.

Its not like it hasn't been obvious all along either.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 12:44 PM

9. She's not wrong. nt

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 01:26 PM

12. I think her tweets were VERY appropriate

Sometimes the truth hurts, but it is, still, the truth.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 01:44 PM

13. I get that Sanders freaks some of you out

but the last I heard Elizabeth Warren is a Democrat. We are not supposed to be disparaging Democrats on this site. The New Zealand diplomat remarks were made concerning an Op-Ed written in the Hill and seemed really over dramatic to me. The Hill flagged her and she deleted.

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Response to Maggiemayhem (Reply #13)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 01:54 PM

14. I'm a Democrat too as I guess are you. Neither of us are good choices in 2020. It's not disparaging

Democrats to say so.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #14)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 01:57 PM

15. Read in The NY Times

About the New Zealand embassy and the Trump connection. Beresford is a Trumper.

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Response to Maggiemayhem (Reply #15)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 10:36 PM

25. That's nonsense. nt

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #14)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 01:59 PM

16. Implying that Senator Warren is third party

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Response to Maggiemayhem (Reply #13)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 02:39 PM

19. And why should she

play second fiddle to someone who is not. I'm fine with her running with her choice VP (who almost certainly would not be Bernie Sanders)

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Response to relayerbob (Reply #19)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 03:05 PM

20. OMG

Thus is not truth but someone’s opinion on future races. Warren has said she does not want to run as it stand right now.Sanders and Warren just did a live blog together and somebody wrote an OPINION Piece in the Hill. The NZ woman’s response was censored and had nothing to do with facts.

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Response to Maggiemayhem (Reply #20)

Fri Mar 16, 2018, 02:30 PM

31. My main issue

was with the assumption, factual or not, that Warren should be considered for VP. I'm well aware of her position on running for President, but I frankly hope she does, I think she'd be good.

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Response to Maggiemayhem (Reply #13)

Thu Mar 15, 2018, 12:15 AM

30. It's not "disparaging" to say we don't want

someone to be our Democratic Candidate in 2020.

And, I certainly don't want BS or EW.

Oh, BS doesn't "freak out" anyone.. he's just not liked by many of us. Not everyone cares for him for lots of reasons.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 03:09 PM

22. It's easier to get Dems to fight amongst ourselves than fight Republicans

it's the nature of liberals and idealistic thought

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 06:01 PM

24. Except the editor has it exactly backward--Warren & Sanders are right on the issues

and RUN on them.

The "centrists" run on vague platitudes and people's hopes that they will do better than they promise in the campaign.

Then once elected, do as little as possible to earn re-election.

Worse, a sizable chunk of the centrists think re-igniting the Cold War or even starting a hot one with Russia and/or China isn't a bad idea--or more precisely, they don't care what kind of idea it is, they'll just do it because their deep pocket patrons tell them too.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Mar 15, 2018, 12:01 AM

29. No Worries, Mate.. No BS/Warren ticket for us nm

Oh, is this why we "Dems are suppose to get our shit together"! lol

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