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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 11:48 AM Mar 2018

One Time Only! House GOPers Spin Furiously After Dems Appear To Flip Deep Red PA District

Source: Talking Points Memo



By Alice Ollstein | March 14, 2018 11:13 am

The morning after Democrats eked out a probable narrow win in a formerly pro-Trump district in Pennsylvania, House Republican leaders publicly waved away the result as a fluke and doubled down on the idea that their tax cut bill will save them from a blue wave in this November’s midterm elections.

“This is something you’re not going to see repeated,” House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI) insisted on Wednesday, moments after he reportedly told his caucus behind closed doors that the flipped seat was a “wakeup call” for Republicans.

Ryan told reporters that Democrat Conor Lamb “ran as a pro-gun, pro-life, anti-Nancy Pelosi conservative.” He did not mention that Lamb also ran a staunchly pro-union, pro-Obamacare and anti-GOP tax bill race, or that Lamb has said publicly that he will not vote for abortion restrictions favored by Republicans.

Ryan also claimed that “there are more Democrats in that district than Republicans,” though President Donald Trump won the district by 20 points in 2016. Though the race has been viewed by both parties as a brutal referendum on Trump’s presidency and a sign of building Democratic enthusiasm ahead of November’s midterm elections, where many far more purple districts will be contested, Ryan insisted that Trump did not negatively impact the special election.

Read more: https://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/house-republicans-spin-furiously-after-pennsylvania-house-special-election

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One Time Only! House GOPers Spin Furiously After Dems Appear To Flip Deep Red PA District (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2018 OP
Ryan is running out of excuses. True Blue American Mar 2018 #1
He could lose his own race this fall ya know... has been switched from "safe Republican" to Still In Wisconsin Mar 2018 #4
Ryan is a Ayn Rand worshiping freak. A fascist smug bastard that typifies the Republican Party. olegramps Mar 2018 #7
Which if the American media not fooled Mar 2018 #16
The so-called major players have been AWOL for over 50% following the election of Nixon. olegramps Mar 2018 #22
Agree absolutely not fooled Mar 2018 #29
House GOPers should fear the sleeping giant, the activists walking out of school across the country ffr Mar 2018 #2
We are waiting for the Repuge mass resignations. nt NCjack Mar 2018 #3
Wow, thats some deep denial. flibbitygiblets Mar 2018 #5
Ryan told reporters that Democrat Conor Lamb ran as a pro-gun, pro-life, anti-Nancy Pelosi" bearsfootball516 Mar 2018 #6
Please proceed, GOP. Ride those Trump coattails Freethinker65 Mar 2018 #8
He'd better worry about his own ass CanonRay Mar 2018 #9
Mr. Ryan There Are More Democrats In Almost Every District Than Republicans PaulX2 Mar 2018 #10
"...something youre not going to see repeated, dchill Mar 2018 #11
Thank you, Paul Ryan, for speaking the truth bucolic_frolic Mar 2018 #12
Little Eddie Munster has already forgotten about A-L-A-B-A-M-A groundloop Mar 2018 #13
Other members of House leadership offered their own spin Wednesday morning................. riversedge Mar 2018 #14
"a fluke"? Ask Roy Moore keithbvadu2 Mar 2018 #15
Ryan's head is exploding. Koch's blow MILLIONS on a loss. WHO'S NEXT?? Bengus81 Mar 2018 #17
Trump and the RepubliCONS duforsure Mar 2018 #18
hmm, do they have some inside info from the Russians that makes this claim plausible? 0rganism Mar 2018 #19
Sure, just like the Russians meddled in, but did not affect the election outcome. Ligyron Mar 2018 #20
Ryan is just EVIL Angry Dragon Mar 2018 #21
We've ALREADY seen it repeated, dumbass NastyRiffraff Mar 2018 #23
There are 114 GOP-held seats more competitive than #pa18 Gothmog Mar 2018 #24
Randy Bryce is running against Ryan in 1st Wisconsin Cong District. (He is an iron worker) Stuart G Mar 2018 #25
What About Northam's Win Me. Mar 2018 #26
Democrats should not be bragging about this win...if it is a win. Frustratedlady Mar 2018 #27
Wont see it repeated, yeah just ONCE, dufus Ryan..but many times over in November. Tikki Mar 2018 #28
 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
4. He could lose his own race this fall ya know... has been switched from "safe Republican" to
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 11:56 AM
Mar 2018

"probable Republican."

not fooled

(5,790 posts)
16. Which if the American media
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 12:26 PM
Mar 2018

had done their job and publicly exposed and laid out for the American public his actual beliefs and aims for the country, would deep-six any chance he ever had to be elected to any office, ever again.

Instead they have bought his PR and smarmy image and presented him to the 'Murican public as some sort of economic policy expert.

Yeah, expert at destroying the middle class and shoveling money upwards.




olegramps

(8,200 posts)
22. The so-called major players have been AWOL for over 50% following the election of Nixon.
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 01:13 PM
Mar 2018

The repeal of the "Fairness Doctrine" under Reagan and the 1996 change to allow mass ownership of radio stations ushered in the situation that has allowed for the virtual brainwashing of a large percentage of the populous. The Republicans are attempting to further the damage with additional changes by the FCC. This along with the major mass media's false equivalency providing outright lies to go totally unchallenged has also been a major factor. The question remains if the situation can be rectified before the total collapse and we end up with virtual dictatorship of the oligarchy.

It must be recognized that that Republican Party has adopted an increasingly fascist philosophy and tactics to win elections. This went into fully swing with Nixon's Southern Strategy and intensified with identification with the extreme religious factions who are determined to transform the government into a virtual theocracy that will be in alignment with White People's superior intellect and morality.

Make America Great Again is only a dog whistle scapegoating minorities that they fear are going to take over America. It should not be any surprise that Trump has given his tacit support for the worst elements of our society, i.e. White Supremacists, religious fundamentalists and evangelicals, anarchy, along with attacks on the foundation of the freedom of the press, peaceful assembly, respect for people regardless of ethnicity, and damn near the entire constitution. But give him time, he is new at the job of destroying government and will catch up Reagan's destructive principles when he can establish a dictatorship.

not fooled

(5,790 posts)
29. Agree absolutely
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 04:23 PM
Mar 2018

This is the most heavily propagandized country in the history of the world. The pukes are literally copying techniques perfected by the Nazis and using them on the American public. Fear of the other, scapegoating immigrants, fomenting divisions among ethnic groups, all the fascist stuff, etc.

The genius of it is that the brainwashing is operating while convincing the 'Murican public that this is the "land of the free" and hence certainly not subjected to propaganda.

The one thing that we can only hope will wake people up is when the actual effects of puke economic policies kick in and hurt 'Muricans. Of course, they have been getting screwed since raygun and still tolerate a lot of sh*t from the GOPeePee and affiliated economic interests. Perhaps now that pukes are running everything and their true agenda has been exposed, by the attempts to take away healthcare plus the tax scam, people are now aware. The Lamb election bodes well.

ffr

(22,636 posts)
2. House GOPers should fear the sleeping giant, the activists walking out of school across the country
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 11:54 AM
Mar 2018

Are conservatives so self-absorbed that they cannot see what's happening? Conservative GOP types don't listen to their constituents at their own peril.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
5. Wow, thats some deep denial.
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 11:59 AM
Mar 2018

Either he's counting on the Russians to hack the '18 midterms, or he's in for quite a shock.

bearsfootball516

(6,369 posts)
6. Ryan told reporters that Democrat Conor Lamb ran as a pro-gun, pro-life, anti-Nancy Pelosi"
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 11:59 AM
Mar 2018

Oh, you mean the same person that Republicans spent the last month screaming every second was a Nancy Pelosi sheep?

 

PaulX2

(2,032 posts)
10. Mr. Ryan There Are More Democrats In Almost Every District Than Republicans
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 12:02 PM
Mar 2018

They just aren't motivated to vote.

That may be changing with the orange monster.

bucolic_frolic

(42,478 posts)
12. Thank you, Paul Ryan, for speaking the truth
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 12:03 PM
Mar 2018

about how you see the situation because it reveals that you are in denial. Denial is our friend. The more you don't get it, the better it will be for us.

I did see an analysis that only 2% of 2016 Trump voters switched, and only 51.8% of people who voted were Trump 2016 voters.

I think that means some Trump voters stayed home. No matter. If apathy is our friend that is good too. If their greed for the rich doesn't resonate with their own voters, not my problem. If they spend $11 million to defend their own incumbents, well and good.

It comes down to our ground game vs. theirs. They have mercenary troops, we have grass roots fundraising and grassroots workers.

But in November it will be all districts, not just one, and national media will be focused on all races. We will no longer have the luxury of nationwide pool of activists for one district. We have to compete in maybe 275 of them.

It's money vs. heart.

Let's not lose this.

groundloop

(11,482 posts)
13. Little Eddie Munster has already forgotten about A-L-A-B-A-M-A
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 12:08 PM
Mar 2018

He'll have an excuse for every Democratic pickup, while the truth is that people are finally waking up to 45*s bullshit.

riversedge

(69,537 posts)
14. Other members of House leadership offered their own spin Wednesday morning.................
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 12:21 PM
Mar 2018

ah just #RESIGN!!


House GOPers Spin Furiously After Dems Appear To Flip Deep Red PA District


https://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/house-republicans-spin-furiously-after-pennsylvania-house-special-election

By Alice Ollstein | March 14, 2018 11:13 am

UNITED STATES - MARCH 06:......................................

When a reporter tried to point out that Lamb ran against Ryan’s tax plan. Ryan ignored her and asked the gathered press corps, “Is there anything else anyone wants to talk about?”


Other members of House leadership offered their own spin Wednesday morning.

Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-WA) attributed the likely Republican loss to the fact that “we aren’t even on full momentum on tax reform.”
She cautioned the press to “be careful about making sweeping predictions.”

Rep. Steve Scalise (R-LA), however, revealed some of the deeper anxiety Republicans are feeling about their political prospects going forward during his turn at the podium. He described in detail his nightmare scenario of what could happen if Democrats retake the House this November.

“They said if they get the majority, their bill will raise taxes, and they go and double down by jacking up the death tax even more and they reinstate the Alternative Minimum Tax, which would cripple middle class families,” he said. “So it’s a great contrast to show what will happen if Nancy Pelosi is elected Speaker.”.........................

duforsure

(11,880 posts)
18. Trump and the RepubliCONS
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 12:34 PM
Mar 2018

Are in deep shit country now, wading in it up to their necks, and the American people are joining together to rid this country of these people promoting propaganda , hate, and lies. Trump may already have Putin ready to go after him too.

0rganism

(23,819 posts)
19. hmm, do they have some inside info from the Russians that makes this claim plausible?
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 12:43 PM
Mar 2018

part of me wants to dance around with confidence and glee. but another part just mutters "remember October 2016 and how quickly everything can change". if Putin's spies have infiltrated our government to the extent i suspect, they have more than enough power to shift election results in their desired direction -- they still need to move at just the right time though, and 1-off special elections for partial terms are not that time.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
23. We've ALREADY seen it repeated, dumbass
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 01:30 PM
Mar 2018

I know Ryan is trying his best to forget Virginia & Alabama, but they really did happen. Ryan and his Republicans are now living in an alternate reality where Trump either never happened or is sane.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
26. What About Northam's Win
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 03:04 PM
Mar 2018

and the fact that the woman in Virginia didn't lose the race she lost a coin toss.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
27. Democrats should not be bragging about this win...if it is a win.
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 03:06 PM
Mar 2018

Let them wiggle and squirm. They are too ignorant to figure out they are truly in trouble, but if the Democrats continually brag about winning these seats, they might just catch on and double their efforts...or, cheat. We still have the Russians in play.

Just hush and let them think it's a fluke. They never believe anything a Democrat says, anyway. Best to hide in the bushes and bring about a sneak attack in November. Fortunately, they don't believe in polls unless they measure them on top.

Tikki

(14,533 posts)
28. Wont see it repeated, yeah just ONCE, dufus Ryan..but many times over in November.
Wed Mar 14, 2018, 03:13 PM
Mar 2018

Get used to it....

Tikki

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