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Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:18 PM

Trump floats the idea of creating a 'Space Force' to fight wars in space

Source: CNBC

President Donald Trump on Tuesday said his new national security strategy recognizes that space is a theater of war, and he floated the idea of creating a Space Force, a branch of the military that would operate outside of earth's atmosphere.

"Space is a war-fighting domain, just like the land, air, and sea," Trump told a an audience of service members at the Marine Corps Air Station Miramar. "We may even have a Space Force, develop another one, Space Force. We have the Air Force, we'll have the Space Force."

The president described how he'd originally coined the term as a joke, while discussing U.S. government spending and private investment in space. "I said, 'maybe we need a new force, we'll call it the Space Force,' and I was not really serious. Then I said, 'what a great idea,' maybe we'll have to do that," Trump told the crowd of Marines.

"So think of that, Space Force," Trump continued, "because we are spending a lot and we have a lot of private money coming in, tremendous. You saw what happened the other day, and tremendous success. From the very beginning, many of our astronauts have been soldiers and air men, coast guard men and marines. And our service members will be vital to ensuring America continues to lead the way into the stars."

Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/13/trump-floats-the-idea-of-creating-a-space-force-to-fight-wars-in-space.html



Nice one, Dr. Evil!



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Reply Trump floats the idea of creating a 'Space Force' to fight wars in space (Original post)
Initech Mar 2018 OP
Bleacher Creature Mar 2018 #1
Initech Mar 2018 #5
MFM008 Mar 2018 #2
lunasun Mar 2018 #3
Initech Mar 2018 #6
lunasun Mar 2018 #12
47of74 Mar 2018 #4
dhol82 Mar 2018 #7
Angry Dragon Mar 2018 #8
truthisfreedom Mar 2018 #13
errant boy Mar 2018 #17
paleotn Mar 2018 #21
DinahMoeHum Mar 2018 #46
djacq Mar 2018 #9
DinahMoeHum Mar 2018 #14
John Fante Mar 2018 #10
FSogol Mar 2018 #11
JHB Mar 2018 #49
DinahMoeHum Mar 2018 #15
jmowreader Mar 2018 #16
Binkie The Clown Mar 2018 #18
llmart Mar 2018 #19
paleotn Mar 2018 #20
TomCADem Mar 2018 #22
Zorro Mar 2018 #23
jmowreader Mar 2018 #36
Zorro Mar 2018 #39
jmowreader Mar 2018 #40
procon Mar 2018 #24
LudwigPastorius Mar 2018 #25
progree Mar 2018 #26
SergeStorms Mar 2018 #27
lastlib Mar 2018 #28
Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2018 #42
keithbvadu2 Mar 2018 #29
AnnieBW Mar 2018 #30
Judi Lynn Mar 2018 #31
bullwinkle428 Mar 2018 #32
Initech Mar 2018 #38
dogknob Mar 2018 #33
Canoe52 Mar 2018 #43
meadowlander Mar 2018 #34
Permanut Mar 2018 #35
Bayard Mar 2018 #37
Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2018 #41
BaronChocula Mar 2018 #44
TomVilmer Mar 2018 #45
JHB Mar 2018 #47
Ferretherder Mar 2018 #48

Response to Initech (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:19 PM

1. I strongly support this proposal!!

On the condition that he personally man the first test mission!!

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Response to Bleacher Creature (Reply #1)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:24 PM

5. And give Vlad the ability to launch nukes from space?

They should probably just deploy Skynet and get it over with!

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Response to Initech (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:20 PM

2. He needs to be

Lost in space.
...

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Response to Initech (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:24 PM

3. Show em who is in charge of this galaxy trump!



The president described how he'd originally coined the term as a joke, while discussing U.S. government spending and private investment in space. "I said, 'maybe we need a new force, we'll call it the Space Force,' and I was not really serious. Then I said, 'what a great idea,' maybe we'll have to do that," Trump told the crowd of Marines.

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Response to lunasun (Reply #3)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:25 PM

6. I knew it! I'm surrounded by assholes!

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Response to Initech (Reply #6)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:34 PM

12. hey now- Nepotism is ALWAYS part of the trump plan


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Response to Initech (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:24 PM

4. Why do I get the feeling fuck face's space force would run in to these people...




And make them so mad that they declare a genocidal holy war against humanity?


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Response to Initech (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:27 PM

7. The idiot has visions of becoming Emperor Palpatine

Schmuck!

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Response to Initech (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:30 PM

8. Now Trump wants to be a Space Cadet

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Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #8)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:34 PM

13. Space Cadet Bone Spurs!

To infamy and beyond!

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Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #8)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:51 PM

17. He Already Is

 





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Response to errant boy (Reply #17)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 08:07 PM

21. Can we just leave him up there?

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Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #8)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 05:11 AM

46. Here ya go. . .

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Response to Initech (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:30 PM

9. Even better;

[link:|

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Response to djacq (Reply #9)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:38 PM

14. To Infinite Stupidity. . .and Beyond !!!!!!!!!

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Response to Initech (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:30 PM

10. I said, 'maybe we need a new force, we'll call it the Space Force,'

How creative..for a 4-year old. If he had to come up with an acronym for the program his tiny brain would explode.

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Response to Initech (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:32 PM

11. and Mexico will pay for it....

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Response to FSogol (Reply #11)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 06:52 AM

49. Very Credible administration source says...

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Response to Initech (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:44 PM

15. Draft Dodgers in the 24th-and-one-half Century !!!!!

"If He's Our Future. . .We're History"


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Response to Initech (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:48 PM

16. Where the hell are you going to get the money, Donnie?

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Response to Initech (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:58 PM

18. Shows a complete lack of understanding of basic science.

Like "space" is someplace you can go with a ship full of soldiers and fight a battle. What an idiot.


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Response to Initech (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 08:03 PM

19. His idiocy has no end.

What a complete asshole.

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Response to Initech (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 08:05 PM

20. Pretty rich for a country...

that can't even get people to LEO anymore. That has to hitch rides with the Ruuskies.

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Response to Initech (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 08:11 PM

22. ...

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Response to Initech (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 08:24 PM

23. There actually is some serious consideration about creating a new Space military branch

Currently the Air Force is the military branch with the primary responsibility for acquiring launch and space hardware, but that creates internal budgetary conflicts with aircraft programs that have been the traditional Air Force focus. The thought is that a separate Space Force military branch would remove those internal AF budget priority conflicts.

There is some advocacy within the military for heading in this direction, but there are stronger advocates for maintaining the status quo.

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Response to Zorro (Reply #23)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 11:28 PM

36. That makes some sense, but Trump does not

However! The best and least expensive way to do that would be to merge the National Reconnaissance Office and the armed services' space commands (all four services have a space command; the Marines' space command isn't very big and the Air Force's is huge) into one organization with the current NRO officials in charge of it. If Trump wants to call that "Space Force," that's fine.

Let's just hope the bastard doesn't decide he needs to buy X-wing fighters and rocket-powered Winnebagos.

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #36)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 11:55 PM

39. That approach might seem sensible but there are NRO-military boundaries

There are Title 10/Title 50 constraints (i.e. war fighting vs. intelligence collection) that preclude that option, in addition to the typical rice bowl issues.

You're right, Trump isn't capable of making sensible decisions, but it sounds to me that someone around him has been talking about creating a separate Space Force, and it's rattling around in his head. Sounds as if he wants to claim it as his original idea.

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Response to Zorro (Reply #39)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 12:00 AM

40. Title 10/Title 50 doesn't come into play here

NRO is already part of the Department of Defense.

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Response to Initech (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 08:24 PM

24. Trump style uniforms-gold lame lycra bodysuits for guys and hot pants for girls. nt

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Response to Initech (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 08:35 PM

25. You've heard of "Rods from God"?


Trump wants "Wands from Don".

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Response to Initech (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 08:48 PM

26. Space debris Space debris Space debris Space debris Space debris

And then there's Kessler Syndrome: a space sickness in which low-Earth orbit is so overpopulated that collisions cascade into more collisions, which create more debris that causes more collisions that cascade into more collisions. It's all very bad for Sandra Bullock. And it's about to get worse: Thousands and thousands of satellites are set to launch to low-Earth orbit before 2025.
https://www.wired.com/story/the-space-junk-problem-is-about-to-get-a-whole-lot-gnarlier/


“A 10-centimeter sphere of aluminum would be like 7 kilograms of TNT,” says Jack Bacon, a senior NASA scientist charged with keeping the ISS safe. “It would blow everything to smithereens.”

Incidents like these served as clear signs from above that something must finally be done about space junk. Its proliferation threatens not only current and future space missions but also global communications—mobile phone networks, satellite television, radio broadcasts, weather tracking, and military surveillance, even the dashboard GPS devices that keep us from getting lost. The number of manufactured objects cluttering the sky is now expected to double every few years as large objects weaken and split apart and new collisions create more Kesslerian debris, leading to yet more collisions.

NASA’s Bacon puts it bluntly: “The Kessler syndrome is in effect. We’re in a runaway environment, and we won’t be able to use space in the future if we don’t start dealing with this now.”
https://www.wired.com/2010/05/ff_space_junk/


A paint fleck traveling at 18,000 mph can penetrate a space suit and kill.

And this is without a space war.

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Response to Initech (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 09:05 PM

27. Only from the mind.....

of a 71 year old with a 5 year old's brain.

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Response to SergeStorms (Reply #27)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 09:22 PM

28. ....who is too ignorant to know that weapons are banned from outer space by treaty.

1967 Treaty on Outer Space bans all weapons from outer space, including the moon and other celestial bodies.

https://www.state.gov/t/isn/5181.htm

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Response to lastlib (Reply #28)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 12:45 AM

42. Exactly. . . . . . nt

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Response to Initech (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 09:25 PM

29. Two space aliens looking down on Earth

Two space aliens looking down on Earth
#1 I see that the dominant life form has developed space weapons
#2 Does that mean they are an emerging intelligence?
#1 I don't think so. They have them aimed at themselves.

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Response to Initech (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 09:47 PM

30. Stormtroopers?

Everyone knows that they can't hit anything that they shoot at!

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Response to Initech (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 10:18 PM

31. Well, Putin says Trump is a genius. So does everyone!

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Response to Initech (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 10:43 PM

32. Big kick for "I SHALL CALL IT THE 'DEATH STAR'"!!

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Response to bullwinkle428 (Reply #32)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 11:51 PM

38. I immediately thought of Dr. Evil when I saw that!

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Response to Initech (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 10:44 PM

33. Has he decided on uniforms yet? I have an idea...

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Response to dogknob (Reply #33)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 01:26 AM

43. It was so great being a teenage boy during this era!

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Response to Initech (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 11:13 PM

34. At least he has his priorities straight

The sad truth is that this is probably the only way nasa will be properly funded

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Response to Initech (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 11:17 PM

35. Xenu will not be pleased. n/t

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Response to Initech (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 11:44 PM

37. Space as a war zone

Why is that the first thing that comes into his pea brain? He's obviously not a Star Trek fan, or he would know space is a wondrous new frontier for peaceful exploration, learning, and perhaps meeting other civilizations.

Of course, this is the same asshole that is selling off our national monuments.

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Response to Initech (Original post)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 12:44 AM

41. For 50 years we've had treaties de-militarizing space. But Trump is stupid. . . nt

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Response to Initech (Original post)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 03:21 AM

44. SPACE WALL nt

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Response to Initech (Original post)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 04:51 AM

45. Alarming gaps in international space law



The preamble of the Outer Space Treaty of 1967 speaks of the desire of states to use outer space for peaceful purposes. This reference leads some lawyers to believe that the treaty in fact establishes a general prohibition on military activities in this domain, implying that the deployment of space weapons or ASATs is illegal.

In reality, the treaty does not include any legally binding provisions concerning the peaceful use of outer space. In fact, the reference to the peaceful use of space is not even included in the operational part of the treaty. Instead, it simply appears in the preamble as an objective.

The treaty was drafted by the two Cold War superpowers, during a highly tense period in which both nations had already made extensive use of outer space for military purposes through the deployment of reconnaissance or early-warning satellites. Consequently, neither state was willing to place legal restrictions on such activities.

The Outer Space Treaty only explicitly prohibits the militarization of the Moon and other celestial bodies, as well as the placement of weapons of mass destruction (WMD) in outer space. However, the prohibition of WMDs only applies to ‘placed’ and ‘stationed’ objects, or objects ‘installed’ on celestial bodies, meaning that transits carrying weapons would be allowed.


https://isnblog.ethz.ch/security/preventing-future-conflicts-in-outer-space

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Response to Initech (Original post)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 06:49 AM

47. Stupider Moonraker

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Response to Initech (Original post)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 06:50 AM

48. Why not create a committee to study the true cost of a project of this scale;...

...enact legislation and taxation to secure the necessary funding; then, instead, use that money to end hunger and homelessness across the entire world.

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