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Tue Mar 13, 2018, 08:43 AM

Trump ousts Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, will replace him with CIA Director Mike Pompeo

Source: WAPO Breaking Alert

will update with link when it becomes available.


Read more: Link to sourcehttps://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-rex-tillerson-out-as-secretary-of-state-to-be-replaced-by-cia-director-mike-pompeo/2018/03/13/0f3bce6e-26bd-11e8-a227-fd2b009466bc_story.html?utm_term=.c25220d6e69a



I wonder if Tillerson's honest response to Russia's role in UK poisoning was last straw?

NOT GOOD NEWS, imo

Here's the replacement for Pompeo as CIA Director: Gina Haspel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gina_Haspel
In 2013, John Brennan, then the director of Central Intelligence, named Haspel as acting Deputy Director of the National Clandestine Service, which carries out covert operations around the globe.[11] However, she was denied the position permanently due to criticism about her involvement in the Rendition, Detention and Interrogation program.[12] Haspel has also served as the Deputy Director of the National Clandestine Service for Foreign Intelligence and Covert Action.[6]
--snip--

On February 2, 2017, President Donald Trump appointed Haspel deputy director of the CIA. On February 8, 2017, several members of the Senate intelligence committee urged Trump to reconsider his appointment of Haspel as Deputy Director.[13] Senator Sheldon Whitehouse quoted colleagues Ron Wyden and Martin Heinrich who were on the committee:

I am especially concerned by reports that this individual was involved in the unauthorized destruction of CIA interrogation videotapes, which documented the CIAs use of torture against two CIA detainees. My colleagues Senators Wyden and Heinrich have stated that classified information details why the newly appointed Deputy Director is 'unsuitable' for the position and have requested that this information be declassified. I join their request.

On February 15, 2017, Spencer Ackerman reported on psychologists Bruce Jessen and James Mitchell, the architects of the enhanced interrogation program that was designed to break Zubaydah and was subsequently used on other detainees at the CIAs secret prisons around the world. Jessen and Mitchell are being sued by Sulaiman Abdulla Salim, Mohamed Ahmed Ben Soud, and Obaid Ullah over torture designed by the psychologists. Jessen and Mitchell are seeking to compel Haspel, and her colleague James Cotsana, to testify on their behalf.[14][15]

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Reply Trump ousts Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, will replace him with CIA Director Mike Pompeo (Original post)
hlthe2b Mar 2018 OP
SummerSnow Mar 2018 #1
hlthe2b Mar 2018 #9
democrank Mar 2018 #2
Yonnie3 Mar 2018 #3
sharedvalues Mar 2018 #14
Bengus81 Mar 2018 #20
noneof_theabove Mar 2018 #4
Moostache Mar 2018 #5
Still In Wisconsin Mar 2018 #8
Dave Starsky Mar 2018 #28
Delphinus Mar 2018 #35
Left-over Mar 2018 #44
nitpicker Mar 2018 #6
Scurrilous Mar 2018 #7
bucolic_frolic Mar 2018 #10
Dread Pirate Roberts Mar 2018 #22
Hortensis Mar 2018 #11
dchill Mar 2018 #51
Hortensis Mar 2018 #52
dchill Mar 2018 #53
Hortensis Mar 2018 #56
dchill Mar 2018 #59
hlthe2b Mar 2018 #12
Hortensis Mar 2018 #16
sharedvalues Mar 2018 #13
hlthe2b Mar 2018 #23
sharedvalues Mar 2018 #64
Maeve Mar 2018 #15
hlthe2b Mar 2018 #17
NYC Liberal Mar 2018 #19
OliverQ Mar 2018 #30
CanonRay Mar 2018 #42
flibbitygiblets Mar 2018 #50
sinkingfeeling Mar 2018 #18
hlthe2b Mar 2018 #21
Ilsa Mar 2018 #27
Dave Starsky Mar 2018 #31
Ilsa Mar 2018 #34
agtcovert Mar 2018 #49
olegramps Mar 2018 #48
muntrv Mar 2018 #24
Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #25
UpInArms Mar 2018 #26
OliverQ Mar 2018 #36
UpInArms Mar 2018 #41
Fla Dem Mar 2018 #29
MuseRider Mar 2018 #32
hlthe2b Mar 2018 #33
harun Mar 2018 #55
NCjack Mar 2018 #37
jmbar2 Mar 2018 #38
hlthe2b Mar 2018 #39
Cartoonist Mar 2018 #40
Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2018 #43
Kurt V. Mar 2018 #45
workinclasszero Mar 2018 #46
joshcryer Mar 2018 #47
harun Mar 2018 #54
SergeStorms Mar 2018 #57
pangaia Mar 2018 #58
matt819 Mar 2018 #60
elmac Mar 2018 #61
mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2018 #62
IcyPeas Mar 2018 #63

Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 08:44 AM

1. lol... we posted at the same exact time!

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Response to SummerSnow (Reply #1)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 09:00 AM

9. It surely got MY attention! yikes

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 08:45 AM

2. Going to replace him with Pompeo

heard it on MSNBC

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 08:46 AM

3. twitler tweets confirmation

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Response to Yonnie3 (Reply #3)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 09:05 AM

14. Normally: dont repeat his words

Normally none of us should read his tweets, listen to his words, and ESPECIALLY not retweet him or follow him. Repeating him helps him.

But I guess this is a purely factual tweet. But after this, go back to our regular policies

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Response to sharedvalues (Reply #14)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 09:13 AM

20. LOL...I follow Trump and have for a year........

Yep it's a factual Tweet and as usual there are dozens of posts tearing him a new one over Russia. His bootlicker RWers never have much to say to him on Twitter.

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 08:49 AM

4. One small step for man.....

correction... ONE SMALL GOOSE-STEP Toward Fascism.

Will have to see how it unfolds but personally I don't see boat steering out of the deep ocean whirlpool.

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 08:49 AM

5. Jesus Fucking Christ...

This is unbelievable. Tillerson comments in a negative light about Russia, pretty mild stuff considering the current state of affairs in the world, and he is out within HOURS????!?!!!!!????

At this point, a military coup may be in the offing....

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Response to Moostache (Reply #5)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 08:59 AM

8. I am not entirely sure we wouldn't be better off with a military coup.

I'm only partially kidding. Guys like Kelly aside, most military guys are Republicans, but they're not TRUMP Republicans.

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Response to Moostache (Reply #5)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 09:35 AM

28. If this isn't proof that Trump is Putin's cock holster...

I don't know what is. Holy crap.

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Response to Dave Starsky (Reply #28)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 09:44 AM

35. And the fact

Pompeo said there wasn't any evidence of Russian fiddling - sorry, it was on CNN and I only heard it once. BUT that is what worries me - Pompeo is as compromised as some of Trump's other folks.

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Response to Moostache (Reply #5)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 10:54 AM

44. In this regime........

Anything negatively spoken about mother russia is grounds for dismissal.

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 08:52 AM

7. The circus started early today...

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 09:03 AM

10. Donald Trump thinks he's Billy Martin

the famed Yankee's manager who would swap players in and out, and often a reliever for one batter or even one pitch, to gain an advantage and win the game.

So much winning here I am unable to calculate on by abacus

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #10)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 09:15 AM

22. More like George Steinbrenner hiring and firing managers

He would replace them depending on what he had for breakfast and his mood on any particular day. There's a lot of the crazy part of Steinbrenner in Trump.

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 09:03 AM

11. Hicksless "more unteathered Trump." Hope this displeases Putin,

but Pompeo may be fine with him, conceivably even assisted in the decision. Of all the chiefs of the intelligence services, Pompeo has been the one who's most protective of Trump/Russia.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #11)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 11:24 AM

51. I think the real reason behind this firing might be...

Putin. He was probably getting tired of his personal pick saying negative things about Russia. Tillerson was just supposed to do away with the sanctions.

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Response to dchill (Reply #51)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 11:29 AM

52. And he failed at that. Depending on the nature of

their relationship, though probably unlikely, it's not completely unthinkable to wonder if Putin might regard Tillerson's behavior as betrayal...

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #52)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 11:31 AM

53. It's COMPLETELY thinkable.

I just thought it again!

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Response to dchill (Reply #53)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 11:34 AM

56. Prison for treason would be better, tho.

Also not unthinkable, even if unlikely.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #56)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 11:58 AM

59. Mueller needs to drink ALL their milkshakes!

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 09:03 AM

12. Andrea Mitchell (MSNBC) is now speculating what I had earlier: that his frank comments on Russia

re: UK Poisoning responsibility may have done him in.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #12)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 09:08 AM

16. Interesting. Theresa Mays' position may trigger NATO

involvement, which would be very bad news for Putin-Trump, so that would make sense. It's almost hard to imagine that this wouldn't have been a big reason for this timing at least.

*Oh! Now it's that Tillerson was fired Friday! So Tillerson's support for May was a finger at Trump-Putin, and that timing suggests Tillerson's comments on NK may have been the break.

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 09:03 AM

13. Optimism: maybe this will reopen torture crimes

When Mueller takes down this whole criminal circus,
Maybe this will bring more attention to the crimes against our nation that were committed by torturing.

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Response to sharedvalues (Reply #13)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 09:18 AM

23. You are an optimist... but finding a silver lining here is really hard!

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #23)

Sat Mar 17, 2018, 11:43 AM

64. :)

The best resistance is positive persistence.

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 09:06 AM

15. Question--will Pompeo need Senate confirmation as SoS?

Follow-up--if so, is that expected?

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Response to Maeve (Reply #15)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 09:10 AM

17. Yes... he will and yeah, he probably will be confirmed, given he's previously been confirmed as CIA

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Response to Maeve (Reply #15)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 09:12 AM

19. Yep he will.

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Response to Maeve (Reply #15)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 09:38 AM

30. It's not like any Republicans will vote no.

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Response to Maeve (Reply #15)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 10:36 AM

42. Yes, and hopefully there will be some questions on Russia and the poisonings.

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Response to CanonRay (Reply #42)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 11:18 AM

50. And whether US will honor Article 5

Because our ally was attacked by Russia. That's what it's all about.

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 09:11 AM

18. OMG, that means he'll put f**king Cotton in as CIA director!

Heaven help us!

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Reply #18)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 09:14 AM

21. Oh, gawd... I wish I hadn't eaten breakfast...

UP IT COMES!

Just the thought of Cotton makes me puke for anything makes me puke, but no, Trump has already names Gina Haspel (more about her in the OP)

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Reply #18)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 09:31 AM

27. Gina Haspel will be CIA director.

I don't know who that is or what she is like.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #27)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 09:39 AM

31. Well, if she's a Trump pick...

then I'm pretty sure she's godawful, with a doctoral degree in Stupid.

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Response to Dave Starsky (Reply #31)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 09:42 AM

34. There's a thread in her here in GD. She's a former agent of torture

and terrorist rendition. Former undercover.

There goes our respect in the world.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #34)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 11:17 AM

49. Given the sad (scary?) state of affairs...

I'm pretty sure we squandered most of that already.

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Response to Dave Starsky (Reply #31)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 11:17 AM

48. She has a doctoral degree in torture. A real live fascist bitch. Open the ovens and order the gas.

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 09:20 AM

24. Please Rex, do tell all!

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 09:25 AM

25. Wow. So Tillerson didn't realize his boss is Putin? Interesting.

As an official and medaled "friend of Russia," I thought Tillerson was in on it. It turns out that murder was a bridge too far for Tillerson. Like, did he not know when he was a "friend of Russia" about Russia's/Putin's past of murder?

But wow...Tillerson humiliated like this. When you lie down with dogs, and all that. Tillerson & Trump have not been on the same page for some time. Tillerson should have left end of 2017, like he said he might.

So now we have Pompeo....an even better friend of Russia.

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 09:27 AM

26. Not that I cared for Tillersons Exxon connections

He was one of the few logical minds in this maladminstration... this is not good

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Response to UpInArms (Reply #26)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 09:46 AM

36. Tillerson also destroyed the State department.

He was absolutely horrible. Pompeo may be worse, but Tillerson was definitely trying to weaken State.

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Response to OliverQ (Reply #36)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 10:16 AM

41. That was/is tRumps planned assault on all our institutions

Tillerson was just the tool

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 09:36 AM

29. One less "reasonable" hand on the tiller of the ship of state.

I say reasonable compared to others in this administration.

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 09:41 AM

32. And the Koch brothers lean back in their

leather chairs and rub their hands together and have a congratulatory beverage.

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 09:41 AM

33. I guess we can at least be glad he didn't name John Bolton... BUT

I am very worried that a'hole may still be named as NSA if McMaster gets the boot

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #33)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 11:33 AM

55. Amen to that.

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 09:52 AM

37. Tilly lost his admiration for Putin and Russia, so Putin fired him. Pompeo will do well

as long as he remembers how his butt is buttered -- one cheek for Trump and one cheek for Putin.

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 09:58 AM

38. Some poetic justice in his getting so publicly fired...

Although I regret the loss of a sane person from the administration - there are so few of them - I don't feel too sorry for Rex.

I was on a consulting assignment at Exxon for awhile and had never seen such a depressed and paranoid culture.

Rex presided from his golden office at Exxon, ruled like a distant despot, and routinely sacrificed tens of thousands of dedicated career employees through his "rank and yank" employee evaluations. Basically, you lived or died by the evaluation. Everyone was scored, and those with the lowest scores were fired each year. All activity was based on trying not to be scored lower than your coworker.

People stayed in their offices with doors closed, and no one ever challenged the status quo. Zero happiness, zero creativity. Just people trying to survive. Could have just as easily been a soviet bureaucracy. I was so glad when my assignment ended. A miserable place for employees.

Now the king has a little taste of what he dished out to so many of his employees.

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Response to jmbar2 (Reply #38)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 10:00 AM

39. Uggh... The repulsive and sociopathic (Trump and Tillerson) do find each other, don't they

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 10:15 AM

40. They never give up

I went to freepton to get their take on this.

Getting rid of Tillerson is a great sign that the frog boiling operation is ready to be moved into the next step. Trump and Sessions NEED someone who will NOT be run around in circles when Sessions demands documents to investigate Hillary. Pompeo is that someone. This is very bad news for Hillary Clinton
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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 10:38 AM

43. Tillerson couldn't find Obama's birth certificate in Kenya. Came back a day early

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 11:13 AM

45. this will jeopardize the Iran nuclear deal. another swipe at President Obama.

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 11:13 AM

46. Trump is a Russian asset

Putin is now running the government of the USA at its highest level.

How much more proof is needed FFS???

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 11:15 AM

47. Rex probably didn't like that Trump wanted to sit down with Kim Jun Dictator.

Lotsa apologists for the NK regime totally on board with that.

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 11:32 AM

54. It's the Apprentice, but with Nuclear Weapons and the World Economy.

What could go wrong?

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 11:47 AM

57. The madness of King Donald.

What a great time to fire your Sec. State! We have a rogue "president" who decides unilaterally that he's going to talk to the North Korean dictator HIMSELF, so sure let's get rid of anyone who might have some input contrary to what King Donald wants to do. Having no Sec. State for the next month or so won't be a big deal.

Twitler does it again. Trump wants to make all the decisions himself, just like a ................DICTATOR!

Imagine that.

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 11:51 AM

58. Just look at the quotes on YAHOO..

“Mike Pompeo, Director of the CIA, will become our new Secretary of State. He will do a fantastic job!


“The Secretary had every intention of staying because of the critical progress made in national security,” the statement said.



“Rex and I have been talking about this for a long time,” Trump said.



".............Tillerson, including a report last October that the secretary of state had called the president a “moron”


“His leadership has made America safer, ....."
(Mike Pompeo)



And THIS one really jumps out!!! Either this is his usual blowing gas.. OR.. it is the truth, which worries me a hell of a lot more.....

“I’m really at a point where we’re getting very close to having the Cabinet and other things that I want,” said Trump.



“As director of the CIA, Mike has earned the praise of members in both parties by strengthening our intelligence gathering, modernizing our defensive and offensive capabilities, and building close ties with our friends and allies in the international intelligence community,” Trump said.

OH REALLY ????


(PS these are not full paragraph quotes, so I hope it is ok to have more than FOUR (4).



https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-fires-tillerson-taps-cia-chief-pompeo-state-140519399.html

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 12:09 PM

60. You know what's pathetic about this?

Granted, Tillerson has been critical of Russia/Putin in the past few days.

But I'll put money on the likelihood that he will remain close-mouthed re criticism of this regime. With his money, he can afford to say any damn thing he wants. But he'll stay quiet to placate this fellow old white guy republican billionaires.

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 12:13 PM

61. replacing him with another worthless piece of shit T-bagger nt

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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 01:52 PM

62. Nikki Haley fails to thank and salute Rex Tillerson

Twitter has shortened tweets again. Surely that's the explanation for Nikki Haley's failure to thank and salute Rex Tillerson.



Congratulations to my friend and soon to be Secretary of State Mike Pompeo! Great decision by the President. 🇺🇸


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Response to hlthe2b (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 04:11 PM

63. Rex Tillerson: 'I didn't want this job my wife told me I'm supposed to do this'

“When he asked me at the end of that conversation to be secretary of state, I was stunned,” he said, adding that at 65 years old, at the end of a four-decade career at ExxonMobil, he had expected to retire: “I was going to go to the ranch to be with my grandkids.”

However, he said that when he returned to his Texas home after meeting Trump in New York, his wife, Renda St Clair, shook her finger in his face and said: “I told you God’s not through with you.”

He said he now feels his wife had been right: “I’m supposed to do this.”


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/mar/22/rex-tillerson-i-didnt-want-this-job

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