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flpoljunkie

(26,184 posts)
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 02:45 PM Aug 2012

Reports: Akin Advisers Make Preparations For Withdrawal Tomorrow

Source: Talkingpointsmemo

Reports: Akin Advisers Make Preparations For Withdrawal Tomorrow

DAVID TAINTOR 2:40 PM EDT, MONDAY AUGUST 20, 2012

Missouri Republican Senate candidate Todd Akin's advisers are making preparations to withdraw from the race Tuesday, GOP operative Richard Grenell and RedState.com editor Erick Erickson report. Grenell cited "GOP sources" in his tweet announcing the withdrawal, which has yet to be confirmed by Akin. Akin has been under fire since saying women have biological defenses to fend off pregnancy after a "legitimate rape."


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Reports: Akin Advisers Make Preparations For Withdrawal Tomorrow (Original Post) flpoljunkie Aug 2012 OP
Should say ... "Akin to Abort Campaign" JoePhilly Aug 2012 #1
You did *not* go there! Digital Puppy Aug 2012 #10
And ... He doesn't want to take responsibility for the mistake he made! JoePhilly Aug 2012 #36
Hee! Lucy Goosey Aug 2012 #42
I thought you had a headline from somewhere DavidL Aug 2012 #11
I'm betting that (or something close) will be a headline somewhere. Its just too obvious. JoePhilly Aug 2012 #37
After raping the truth.... /nt demwing Aug 2012 #43
If so it will be a relief Scairp Aug 2012 #71
wow, didn't he just say he wasn't leaving maddezmom Aug 2012 #2
He's a Republican, you can't believe him. alfredo Aug 2012 #25
He said he was "standing firm" Generic Other Aug 2012 #35
hehehe iemitsu Aug 2012 #41
Says he's a dumbshit but not Cha Aug 2012 #48
Well---I guess he won't go down fighting after all... trumad Aug 2012 #3
He was asking for it. nt bupkus Aug 2012 #4
DUzy Bertha Venation Aug 2012 #16
! Emit Aug 2012 #40
He was Asking for it! Oh the Cha Aug 2012 #49
If it (his withdrawal) is going to happen anyway, he should just sit back and enjoy it. BlueStreak Aug 2012 #57
Oh dear! I want him to stay DavidL Aug 2012 #5
welcome David oldhippydude Aug 2012 #54
me too! and welcome! DonRedwood Aug 2012 #55
Me too. I think he should stand by his constituionist, anti homosexualist, pro life principles. Monk06 Aug 2012 #73
So What Time Slot Will He Get on Fox News? Yavin4 Aug 2012 #6
But we were having so much fun BeyondGeography Aug 2012 #7
I'm sure he can get a nice job with the Family Research Council AllyCat Aug 2012 #8
Or head of Women's studies at Liberty University. alfredo Aug 2012 #27
He's gonna teach Home Ec? Generic Other Aug 2012 #39
Intro to hiding the smell of gin before the spouse gets home 101. alfredo Aug 2012 #66
to replace Romney on the top of the Presidential ticket...... Dawson Leery Aug 2012 #9
NO NO NO !!! He needs to stay in the race until Tuesday 5:01 pm. Tx4obama Aug 2012 #12
And everyone that worked for him, voted for him are royally pissed off he's been pulled. democrat_patriot Aug 2012 #20
+1 nt SunSeeker Aug 2012 #23
Oh, hell. Then this is probably not a rumor. Lone_Star_Dem Aug 2012 #24
We should send him $5 each and promise prayers. grantcart Aug 2012 #44
Given what he said I'd rather him gone now than when it's politically expedient. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #62
I'd rather have him stay in the race and let McCaskill whip his butt. If he is replaced ... Tx4obama Aug 2012 #63
+1 Loudestlib Aug 2012 #67
This message was self-deleted by its author Graybeard Aug 2012 #13
Republicans will probably win this seat now... Drunken Irishman Aug 2012 #14
Is Akin himself making preparations or just his advisers? Bjorn Against Aug 2012 #15
They ALWAYS say they are in it to win, are not quitters, etc etc.--all part of the script DFW Aug 2012 #64
War on Women is a losing strategy. SansACause Aug 2012 #17
To think I was worried about the newsweek outsideworld Aug 2012 #18
His advisor's may be making preparations, but someone still needs to tell Akins. Lone_Star_Dem Aug 2012 #19
Tues 21 is last day the Repubs can officially place candidate on ballot. Who and how to choose? Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2012 #21
Ashcroft, Talent, Bond? maddezmom Aug 2012 #22
All those candidates will soundly beat McCaskill... Drunken Irishman Aug 2012 #26
Unless Akin's people stay home cabot Aug 2012 #31
No. If Akin drops out by 5pm tomorrow the GOP will have 2 weeks to pick a new candidate for ballot Tx4obama Aug 2012 #28
September 20th is the real hard deadline for withdrawing in MO, ProgressiveEconomist Aug 2012 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author Tx4obama Aug 2012 #46
Just now found this UPDATE Tx4obama Aug 2012 #47
But Can They Replace Him? SoCalMusicLover Aug 2012 #56
I don't know. See the link below Tx4obama Aug 2012 #58
No, again according to Chuck Todd, this time on NBC Nightly News ProgressiveEconomist Aug 2012 #72
Is he legitimately dropping out? Or just dropping out? cabot Aug 2012 #29
I think he's forcibly dropping out... cr8tvlde Aug 2012 #34
Was this a legitimate candidate? StrictlyRockers Aug 2012 #38
Rape is a CHOICE PossumSqueezins Aug 2012 #30
Another reason I hate that he is dropping out? louis-t Aug 2012 #33
18 minutes ago Akin tweeted: I am in this race to win. We need a conservative Senate. Help me defeat Tx4obama Aug 2012 #45
Idiot rape-publican. truthisfreedom Aug 2012 #50
"We need a conservative in this race"...which is a Cha Aug 2012 #51
If he stays in without GOP Sen. Committee financing, he'll siphon donor bucks from elsewhere ... Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2012 #68
Let's hope he stays in to the bitter end. SheilaT Aug 2012 #52
Sarah Steelman will be a lot harder to beat, just by being a woman. RC Aug 2012 #60
Sarah came in third. John Brunner came second. GOP talking to retired Sen. Ashcroft & Talent. nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2012 #69
Sarah Palin endorsed Sarah Steelman. I hope she doesn't get it if Akin drops out. n/t Tx4obama Aug 2012 #70
I know all that. RC Aug 2012 #74
Good for you. Your post still fails on its premise. Steelman third, not a team player, not it. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2012 #75
AHHH lsewpershad Aug 2012 #53
What is the point of pulling out? We can continue to use the video anyway. BlueStreak Aug 2012 #59
UPDATE: Todd Akin: ‘We’re Going To Stay In’ Tx4obama Aug 2012 #61
It is over ..... Both Karl Rove and the RNC are pulling all funds from Akin ..... Botany Aug 2012 #65

Scairp

(2,749 posts)
71. If so it will be a relief
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 07:48 PM
Aug 2012

I'm sick of seeing these headlines right at the top of all the news websites. Just have a look at CNN. Right at the top all day long. Very distasteful. Not to mention he's a royal fucking jerk who has no business running for the U.S. Senate.

maddezmom

(135,060 posts)
2. wow, didn't he just say he wasn't leaving
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 02:47 PM
Aug 2012


Guess when you get dumped by the Turdblossom you know it's time to leave.
 

DavidL

(384 posts)
5. Oh dear! I want him to stay
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 02:48 PM
Aug 2012

Let's make sure he stays in there... let's have 100,000 Dems come out in support of his staying in.

Monk06

(7,675 posts)
73. Me too. I think he should stand by his constituionist, anti homosexualist, pro life principles.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 09:01 PM
Aug 2012

Republican Men Unite! As for the little ladies,

All Your Vaginas Are Belong To Us!!

AllyCat

(16,174 posts)
8. I'm sure he can get a nice job with the Family Research Council
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 02:49 PM
Aug 2012

Good riddance you nasty, evil misogynist.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
39. He's gonna teach Home Ec?
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 03:17 PM
Aug 2012

Intro to Laundry Folding 101
Advanced Cooking: Sunday Dinners 159
Applied Principles of Couponing for a quiverfull 175

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
12. NO NO NO !!! He needs to stay in the race until Tuesday 5:01 pm.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 02:58 PM
Aug 2012

If he drops out AFTER Tuesday 5:00 pm then the GOP won't be able to put a replacement on the ballot !!!

This is awful !!!

If he drops out before 5pm tomorrow then Claire McCaskill will probably have a new opponent that is not as crazy/extreme


See details here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/125173275


democrat_patriot

(2,774 posts)
20. And everyone that worked for him, voted for him are royally pissed off he's been pulled.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 03:03 PM
Aug 2012

They may stay home, rather than vote for a RINO.

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
24. Oh, hell. Then this is probably not a rumor.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 03:05 PM
Aug 2012

This ends up being a win for the Republicans in several different ways. Damn. He was the easiest one to beat out from the primaries, too.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
63. I'd rather have him stay in the race and let McCaskill whip his butt. If he is replaced ...
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 05:19 PM
Aug 2012

by a less extreme republican then McCaskill's chance of keeping the senate seat for the dems will go down.

We need EVERY senate that we can get - EVERY ONE OF THEM.

Response to flpoljunkie (Original post)

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
15. Is Akin himself making preparations or just his advisers?
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 03:00 PM
Aug 2012

He just said he is going to fight this out, I bet there are big fights behind the scenes right now.

DFW

(54,329 posts)
64. They ALWAYS say they are in it to win, are not quitters, etc etc.--all part of the script
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 05:30 PM
Aug 2012

It's about as believable as an episode of "The A_Team" where 2,850 rounds of ammunition are fired in downtown L.A. during daylight and no one even gets a scratch.

SansACause

(520 posts)
17. War on Women is a losing strategy.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 03:02 PM
Aug 2012

They're just trying to get him quieted fast so that he doesn't remind the country that every single GOP member is part of the War on Women. It didn't just magically go away; it's been hushed until after the election, whereupon it will blaze up like a wildfire.

Women voting GOP have Stockholm Syndrome.

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
19. His advisor's may be making preparations, but someone still needs to tell Akins.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 03:02 PM
Aug 2012

There's a good chance he may be leaving the campaign. Whether he knows it or not.

His link to Ryan on the issue of rape is toxic to their campaign. Maybe they're hoping if Romney comes down strong against his words, and Akin's leaves, voters will be placated enough to drop the issue?

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,988 posts)
21. Tues 21 is last day the Repubs can officially place candidate on ballot. Who and how to choose?
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 03:03 PM
Aug 2012

Tuesday the 21st is apparently the last day that Republicans can change their ballot in Missouri.

Akin squeeked out a victory in a near three way tied race: Brunner second, Sarah Steelman third (endorsed by Sarah Palin). I get the feeling that a lot of Akin voters prefer Steelman to Brunner.

Who would the Repubs choose? What mechanism would they use? (Yes, I know it is delightful to watch them reel and writhe in agony, but I'm curious.)

Whatever the outcome it is a national mess and Ryan has been rightly tarred with Akin-ness. But nothing is in the bag until the votes are counted and certified.

maddezmom

(135,060 posts)
22. Ashcroft, Talent, Bond?
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 03:05 PM
Aug 2012

Possible Republican replacements, the source said, include three former senators: John Ashcroft, Jim Talent, and Kit Bond. Other names being mentioned include former Ambassador Ann Wagner, who is running for Akin's now-vacant seat; and Auditor Tom Schweich.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/bensmith/republican-source-akin-moving-to-withdraw

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
26. All those candidates will soundly beat McCaskill...
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 03:08 PM
Aug 2012

Looks like she's done. It sucks when you have to rely on your opponent making an insanely dumb remark to win a race.

ProgressiveEconomist

(5,818 posts)
32. September 20th is the real hard deadline for withdrawing in MO,
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 03:12 PM
Aug 2012

according to Chuck Todd this morning. But after Aug 21st, withdrawing costs money (for reprining ballots) and requires a court order. IMO neither of those requirements would pose any serious problem for deep-pocketed Missouri Republicans, with plenty of judges in those pockets.

Response to ProgressiveEconomist (Reply #32)

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
47. Just now found this UPDATE
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 03:47 PM
Aug 2012

UPDATE

Missouri law does allow Akin to withdraw from the race somewhat later than tomorrow — although Akin must still voluntarily agree to step aside, and his ability to withdraw after tomorrow is not guaranteed:

Except as provided for in section 115.247, if there is no additional cost for the printing or reprinting of ballots, or if the candidate agrees to pay any printing or reprinting costs, a candidate who has filed or is nominated for an office may, at any time after the time limits set forth in subsection 1 of this section but no later than 5:00 p.m. on the sixth Tuesday before the election, withdraw as a candidate pursuant to a court order, which, except for good cause shown by the election authority in opposition thereto, shall be freely given upon application by the candidate to the circuit court in the county of such candidate’s residence. No withdrawal pursuant to this subsection shall be effective until such candidate files a copy of the court’s order in the office of the official who accepted such candidate’s declaration of candidacy.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/08/20/712521/sorry-missouri-republicans-youre-probably-stuck-with-todd-akin-as-your-senate-candidate/




 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
56. But Can They Replace Him?
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 04:19 PM
Aug 2012

That law you cited allows for a withdrawal after tomorrow, but does not mention whether a replacement can be named past the deadline.

I'm just assuming that tomorrow will be the last chance for the repubs to put someone in his place, but I am not familiar with political law.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
58. I don't know. See the link below
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 04:23 PM
Aug 2012

This is what I saw here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/125173275

BEFORE I saw the newest update on the link in the other comment.

So, I'm not sure what's going on.

ProgressiveEconomist

(5,818 posts)
72. No, again according to Chuck Todd, this time on NBC Nightly News
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 08:07 PM
Aug 2012

I don't know why I picked Chuck Todd's voice out of the TV babble twice today.

On his show this morning, he said nothing about the ability of Republicans to replace Akin on the ballot. On his brief appearance on NBC Nightly News, he made a point of saying August 21st was the last day Akin could be replaced.

With all the resources of a major TV network at his disposal, Todd must have access to the best experts on Missouri election law. But, since people here have not found clear definitive legal language on the deadline for replacing Akin, and courts must get involved after tomorrow, I wonder whether the right lawyers and the right judge might not get someone other than Akin on the ballot as late as September 20th. IMO, without absolute legal clarity, any ballot change physically possible might be made to fly. If Akin's name can be taken off the ballot as late as September 20th, would it not be POSSIBLE to put someone else's name in Akin's place that late in the process of distributing physical ballots to absentees and to polling places?

cabot

(724 posts)
29. Is he legitimately dropping out? Or just dropping out?
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 03:09 PM
Aug 2012

Apparently, there's a difference.

In a way, I'm a bit disheartened. Claire would have won easily. If he's replaced, it gets more difficult for her. Unless all of Akin's voters are pissed and stay home.

StrictlyRockers

(3,855 posts)
38. Was this a legitimate candidate?
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 03:17 PM
Aug 2012

Or is he aborting his candidacy because the Republicon establishment forced him to run, or did he run of his own volition? Why didn't he scream? Was he dressed provocitavely in a 3-piece suit with a red tie and flag lapel pin? Didn't his body have a way to shut down the campaign on it's own? Oh, it was his mind that did that for him, I see...

PossumSqueezins

(184 posts)
30. Rape is a CHOICE
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 03:10 PM
Aug 2012

Todd Akin was just trying to educate the public about the differences between forcible and elective rape. Forced rape is very rare and resulting pregnacies are even more rare. However, when women and children electively choose to be raped, pregnancy and illness may result and the rapee must accept responsibility here.

It's a shame Mr. Akin is leaving the race. He needs to be out there front and center educating the public and mobilizing his base. It's good when Republicans like Mr. Akin get to voice their um....interesting...and, um....medically informed...opinions.

louis-t

(23,284 posts)
33. Another reason I hate that he is dropping out?
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 03:12 PM
Aug 2012

The next 3 months will be filled with repug false equivalent crap for every phony outrage. They will demand that every Dem in the lower 48 drop out of their races for every perceived "gaffe".

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
45. 18 minutes ago Akin tweeted: I am in this race to win. We need a conservative Senate. Help me defeat
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 03:32 PM
Aug 2012


Todd Akin Todd Akin
?@ToddAkin

I am in this race to win. We need a conservative Senate. Help me defeat Claire by donating: https://secure.campaignsolutions.com/toddakin/donation1/?initiativekey=EVC5SEAB56RX … #mosen

See here: https://twitter.com/ToddAkin/status/237627729078530048




If he is planning on dropping out then he is wanting to make some money first !!!

Cha

(297,029 posts)
51. "We need a conservative in this race"...which is a
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 04:01 PM
Aug 2012

code word for a lying teabaggin women hating dumbshit.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,988 posts)
68. If he stays in without GOP Sen. Committee financing, he'll siphon donor bucks from elsewhere ...
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 07:09 PM
Aug 2012

The Republican Senatorial Committee has announced it will not give Akin any financing. If he stays in without GOP Sen. Committee financing, he'll siphon donor bucks from elsewhere, even from some out of state tea party rank and file. That's money down a rat hole and money not going to other races against other Democratic nominees.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
52. Let's hope he stays in to the bitter end.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 04:07 PM
Aug 2012

Also, party politics being what they are, the Republicans can't actually force him to withdraw. They may simply redouble their efforts to get him elected.

If he actually does pull out in time for the Missouri Republicans to select a new candidate, McCaskill will still have plenty of ammo against whoever that replacement is, making it clear that the Republicans are so incompetent they can't even choose a candidate who can stay in the race.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
60. Sarah Steelman will be a lot harder to beat, just by being a woman.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 05:02 PM
Aug 2012

And she is chomping at the bit for another chance at the Senate seat.
Akin is so blatantly anti-woman, it only makes sense. I understand this Sarah, Palin and Bachmann were all made from the same make and model mold.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,988 posts)
75. Good for you. Your post still fails on its premise. Steelman third, not a team player, not it.
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 05:08 AM
Aug 2012

Good for you that you read DU. Your post still fails on its premise. Steelman came in third, is not a team player, and thus is not liked by the Missouri GOP decision makers. Thus there is no way she will be the nominee if Akin quits which would cause a mad two week scramble by the state GOP and a decision by fiat and not another primary.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
59. What is the point of pulling out? We can continue to use the video anyway.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 04:26 PM
Aug 2012

What is the GOP going to say?

"It is terrible that you are playing video of the properly nominated Senate candidate from Missouri. We already threw him under the bus."

We should just keep playing that video over and over. This is today's Republican Party.

And keep asking Ryan/Romney what they think about the Personhood concept. And keep asking them what they think about equal pay for women.

Every time they protest we are continuing to use Akin's words, it just calls attention to the fact that the whole bloody lot of them are from the Dark Ages.

Botany

(70,481 posts)
65. It is over ..... Both Karl Rove and the RNC are pulling all funds from Akin .....
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 05:33 PM
Aug 2012

..... but my thoughts are hang in there Karl, we love you.

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