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brooklynite

(94,452 posts)
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 08:07 PM Aug 2012

Growing Number Of Conservatives Call On Akin To Withdraw After ‘Legitimate Rape’ Comments

Source: Think Progress

Rep. Todd Akin, the GOP Senate candidate in Missouri, set off a firestorm today after claiming that women who are victims of “legitimate rape” don’t usually become pregnant because “the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.” Now, several conservative writers have started calling for Akin to withdraw from his Senate race:

One of the first was Reihan Salam, a prominent author at the conservative flagship National Review:

Reihan Salam@reihan : Todd Akin ought to step the heck down.

John McCormack, a staff writer at Bill Kristol’s The Weekly Standard, also called on Akin to step down:

John McCormack ?@McCormackJohn : @RameshPonnuru tried to warn us about Todd Akin http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/313005/mccaskill-tries-pick-her-opponent-ramesh-ponnuru … #headdesk

Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/election/2012/08/19/712151/growing-number-of-conservative-call-on-akin-to-withdraw-after-legitimate-rape-comments/



Apparently the GOP has 48 hours to clean up this mess or they're stuck with him.
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Growing Number Of Conservatives Call On Akin To Withdraw After ‘Legitimate Rape’ Comments (Original Post) brooklynite Aug 2012 OP
He said this too close to election time is why they want him to step down Quixote1818 Aug 2012 #1
Yeah. nt Cha Aug 2012 #24
Yep! They usually double down on this type of crazy bushisanidiot Aug 2012 #46
I'm sure there are conservatives out there who have suffered the agony Aristus Aug 2012 #2
But his position is the same as the Republican Party platform! SunSeeker Aug 2012 #3
Too close to November this time is my guess Quixote1818 Aug 2012 #5
Ryan on same track as Akin Sandy one Aug 2012 #6
Jesus has been sad about the RW for a LONG, LONG time. kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #34
Rape is an old theme in the GOP jsr Aug 2012 #16
Here's what he looks like, and the sentiment of some of his "fans"? AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #4
I don't understand... dtom67 Aug 2012 #7
Even some freepers do... alp227 Aug 2012 #8
Thanks alp..that was Cha Aug 2012 #26
Missouri dems voted for akin in the republican primary wilsonbooks Aug 2012 #28
WOW! Cha Aug 2012 #49
I think it be competitive pstokely Aug 2012 #39
Any wonder why Clair McCaskill had an interest in this boob winning the primary? mountain grammy Aug 2012 #9
You mean we finally found that line where even conservatives can't go beyond because it's just Baitball Blogger Aug 2012 #10
This year. aquart Aug 2012 #29
It's so ignorant that people still believe that. When I was in school (RCC), that is what we were IndyJones Aug 2012 #11
toad akin seems to be brain dead Angry Dragon Aug 2012 #12
Here come the John Bircher's! Dawson Leery Aug 2012 #13
This may have cost Republican's the Senate. Big blunder doing major damage to GOP! nt Quixote1818 Aug 2012 #14
We can only hope nobodyspecial Aug 2012 #32
If not in MO, then in other places pstokely Aug 2012 #40
You can't unring the bell OmahaBlueDog Aug 2012 #15
I just donated to Claire's campaign LibinMo Aug 2012 #17
Thanks LibinMo.. donated in Cha Aug 2012 #27
Never underestimate the stupidity of voters. secondvariety Aug 2012 #18
He's toast if Dems come out pstokely Aug 2012 #40
Republicans Attacking Their Own Platform bucolic_frolic Aug 2012 #19
I think we should be SUPPORTIVE of these conservatives GaYellowDawg Aug 2012 #20
are the R's eating their own again? I thought their stance was you're forced to have the baby in wordpix Aug 2012 #21
Feigned outrage! They probably agree with this fool 100%, but just got caught! Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2012 #22
Toad Lickers Zoonart Aug 2012 #23
We will hang this around the neck of the Missouri GOP's entire party! You cannot un-speak words. Firebrand Gary Aug 2012 #25
Fuck You Repukes! maxrandb Aug 2012 #30
No,no,no, no, no. bluestateguy Aug 2012 #31
Damn Repukes hit new lows...if that's even possible SHRED Aug 2012 #33
Let's just hope that Akin does NOT step down until after Tuesday 5pm. Tx4obama Aug 2012 #35
Who would they replace him with? pstokely Aug 2012 #40
For crying out loud, KEEP THIS GUY IN THE RACE!!!!! dsharp88 Aug 2012 #36
Just a WTF moment please. R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2012 #37
Who would they replace him with? pstokely Aug 2012 #38
There were three folks that ran in the GOP primary for that senate seat Tx4obama Aug 2012 #43
Here's some info on the other 'three' folks that ran in the primary Tx4obama Aug 2012 #44
Don't do it Todd! Stay in! You can do it!!!!! democrat_patriot Aug 2012 #45
Holy crap. Remmah2 Aug 2012 #47
Todd, regarding your campaign -- just shut the whole thing down. Blue Owl Aug 2012 #48

Quixote1818

(28,925 posts)
1. He said this too close to election time is why they want him to step down
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 08:11 PM
Aug 2012

Had this happened six months ago they would not have cared. Ass holes!

bushisanidiot

(8,064 posts)
46. Yep! They usually double down on this type of crazy
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 08:53 AM
Aug 2012

NOW is the time to link Paul Ryan's name with Todd Akin's as they both were co-sponsors of H.R. 3, the “No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act” which attempts to define rape into several categories. Among them "forceable rape", which is what I think Akin was referring to when he said "legitimate". Rape is rape. Putting the word "legitimate" in front of it is highly offensive to everyone, regardless of gender.

Aristus

(66,307 posts)
2. I'm sure there are conservatives out there who have suffered the agony
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 08:12 PM
Aug 2012

of having a loved one fall victim to a rapist.

Whether pregnancy resulted from the attack or not is irrelevant; I can only imagine they must be revolted by his remarks.

SunSeeker

(51,545 posts)
3. But his position is the same as the Republican Party platform!
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 08:16 PM
Aug 2012

It is in the Republican platform that rape victims should be forced to give birth to their rapist's child. How is what he said any more offensive than that barbaric, misogynistic party platform?

Quixote1818

(28,925 posts)
5. Too close to November this time is my guess
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 08:20 PM
Aug 2012

This is just the kind of thing that could kill them with women when it's fresh in their minds and the focus of the media just two months before the elections.

Sandy one

(24 posts)
6. Ryan on same track as Akin
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 08:21 PM
Aug 2012

Let's see if Ryan has anything to say about this. After all this is basically Ryan's view. He wants to outlaw abortions from rape or incest. I guess it's OK with him to force a young girl or woman through nine months of an unwanted and fearful pregnancy. This is the price she pays for being raped. Romney also goes along with this approach. Welcome to the non-empathetic world of the GOP. Jesus must be very sad this evening.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
34. Jesus has been sad about the RW for a LONG, LONG time.
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 10:37 PM
Aug 2012

He lamented conservative BS 2000 years ago, and things haven't improved.

jsr

(7,712 posts)
16. Rape is an old theme in the GOP
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 08:45 PM
Aug 2012
http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Lawmaker-Says-Rape-Can-t-Cause-Pregnancy-3036411.php

1995-04-21 04:00:00 PDT Raleigh, N.C. -- Women do not get pregnant when raped because "the juices don't flow, the body functions don't work" during an attack, a state lawmaker said yesterday.

Republican Representative Henry Aldridge made the remarks to the House Appropriations Committee as it debated a proposal to eliminate a state abortion fund for poor women.

"The facts show that people who are raped -- who are truly raped -- the juices don't flow, the body functions don't work and they don't get pregnant," said Aldridge, a 71-year-old periodontist. "Medical authorities agree that this is a rarity, if ever."

dtom67

(634 posts)
7. I don't understand...
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 08:30 PM
Aug 2012

Why do his own people want him to step down? saying stupid things that are 100% not true is the republican way these days. In fact, the whole " black is white, up is down " phenomenon is the theme for the GOP.

After 8 years of " W ", who would have guessed that a Republican could run on the economy?

Mitt Romney is just a " regular guy " ?

Paul Ryan is the savior of medicare ?

chick-flay is newsworthy in a story not related to food poisoning??

The republicans are against voter fraud ??

Don't get me wrong, I want Akin to step down too.

but only because he is a piece of sh*t.





alp227

(32,013 posts)
8. Even some freepers do...
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 08:30 PM
Aug 2012
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2920431/posts

Post 3:
“The female body has a way to shut down rape.”

Who elected this idiot?


Post 4:

If the liberals want to destroy you, you shouldn’t make their job easier, as he just did.


Post 6:

Good grief, is that quote for real?

If so, MO sure should have heeded Palin’s endorsement and gone with that Sarah Steelman gal instead!


Post 9:

Looks like Akin is trying to lose a slam-dunk election. Ugh.


Post 11:

It looks like he is doing a good job of destroying himself, without any help from liberals. This looks like it may be another "sure win" senate race turning into a certain loss.


As disgusting as Akin was with those comments, I'd like to thank him very much for handing the election over to McCaskill. No way could he complain: "The liberals made that shit up! The liberals took me out of context!"

The perfect toon for how Akin will explain his predicament:

Cha

(297,026 posts)
26. Thanks alp..that was
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 09:15 PM
Aug 2012

entertaining. Which begs the question...Why didn't the MO teabag primary elect palin's endorsement?

wilsonbooks

(972 posts)
28. Missouri dems voted for akin in the republican primary
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 09:36 PM
Aug 2012

and helped him win. He was behind in the polls.

Cha

(297,026 posts)
49. WOW!
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 04:59 PM
Aug 2012

Open primary.. in Hawai'i we can only vote for one party in the primary. There were a couple of candidates I wanted to go on to the General in November.

Thx wilsonbooks~

pstokely

(10,524 posts)
39. I think it be competitive
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 03:59 AM
Aug 2012

Before the comments, I would have thought it would get closer into the fall. There are still people who will vote for this guy because they believe what their hear on the kochsucker ads

OmahaBlueDog

(10,000 posts)
15. You can't unring the bell
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 08:43 PM
Aug 2012

I realize it's a cliche, but it applies 100% in this instance.

He can apologize all he wants; say he misspoke; say he's been misunderstood; blame the media for twisting his words...he's stuck with this one.

secondvariety

(1,245 posts)
18. Never underestimate the stupidity of voters.
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 08:48 PM
Aug 2012

Candidates have said and done worse (Rick Scott) and still won.

pstokely

(10,524 posts)
40. He's toast if Dems come out
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 04:06 AM
Aug 2012

problem is, since MO is no longer a deciding state electorally, Obama may not come to help bring out the Dems in KC and STL

GaYellowDawg

(4,446 posts)
20. I think we should be SUPPORTIVE of these conservatives
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 08:54 PM
Aug 2012

However messed up they are otherwise, the ones who are calling for him to drop out of the race are right on this one, and we should give them credit on the rare occasions when they get it right.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
21. are the R's eating their own again? I thought their stance was you're forced to have the baby in
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 08:56 PM
Aug 2012

the case of rape or incest---now no baby will result, right?

maxrandb

(15,310 posts)
30. Fuck You Repukes!
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 09:51 PM
Aug 2012

You nominated this asshat, deal with it. He stays on the God Damned ballot as a example of YOUR complete idiocy!

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
31. No,no,no, no, no.
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 09:58 PM
Aug 2012

Keep him in the race. If they boot him they'll just replace him with an electable Republican who believes all the same things as Akin, but is more sanitized in their bigotry and extremism.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
35. Let's just hope that Akin does NOT step down until after Tuesday 5pm.
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 10:49 PM
Aug 2012

Because IF he does then the GOP can nominate a different candidate to be on the ticket to run against McCaskill.

See the details here: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/19/1121913/-Think-Progress-Conservatives-already-calling-for-Todd-Akin-to-withdraw

And here:

-snip-

MIssouri’s §115.359 appears to require a candidate to withdraw “no later than the eleventh Tuesday prior to the general election” — which, if you’re counting, is this Tuesday. Absent some pretty effective lobbying by Missouri Republicans, there’s little chance Rep. Akin will willingly step down before that deadline. And any lobbying won’t have the benefit of poll numbers, as there’s little time to even conduct a poll before Tuesday. Not that it would matter much, as Rep. Akin’s comments won’t have saturated the electorate, meaning any polls wouldn’t measure much (if any) of the eventual impact of his remarks.

If Rep. Akin does withdraw before 5PM on Tuesday, the Republicans in Missouri could nominate someone else pursuant to §115.363(3)(3). In such an event, under §115.369, the party would have two weeks and a day to pick somebody new.

-snip-

http://adamsteinbaugh.com/2012/08/19/can-rep-todd-akin-withdraw-sure-but-its-unlikely/



dsharp88

(487 posts)
36. For crying out loud, KEEP THIS GUY IN THE RACE!!!!!
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 11:01 PM
Aug 2012

Akin is a huge gift to the Dems! Don't get rid of him. We need to support him (until Tuesday 5 pm).

 

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)
37. Just a WTF moment please.
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 11:31 PM
Aug 2012

Just reading this gave me the hiccups. Strange.

Okay. So WTF? I can't even wrap my brain around this one. What planet is this guy from?

pstokely

(10,524 posts)
38. Who would they replace him with?
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 03:54 AM
Aug 2012

Would his name stay on the ballot? Missouri has a centrist Dem governor who will probably get another term

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
43. There were three folks that ran in the GOP primary for that senate seat
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 04:09 AM
Aug 2012

Akin was one
one was a teapartier
and I don't know anything about the other one.

If Akin drops out by Tuesday 5pm the GOP can pick a replacement within two weeks and that replacement will be on the ballot.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
44. Here's some info on the other 'three' folks that ran in the primary
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 04:30 AM
Aug 2012

... Other candidates in the August 2012 Republican primary include businessman John Brunner, author and business executive Mark Memoly, and former Missouri Treasurer Sarah Steelman. Despite losing some momentum and in a crowded field, Akin won the Republican nomination in the August 7 primary, 36% to 30% for his nearest challenger.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_akin#2012_U.S._Senate_election

I guess IF Akin were to drop out the GOP would pick one of them, I don't know.

But considering Akin is current a Representative in the U.S. House - I think it would be hard for him to drop out of the senate race and still be able to campaign for his House seat without looking like 'he is guilty'. So, he might decide to tough it out. I don't have a clue.
Perhaps he will lose his House seat too

Edited to add:

Wikipedia shows that Akin is 'retiring' from The House in order to run for the senate seat.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections,_2012#Republicans



democrat_patriot

(2,774 posts)
45. Don't do it Todd! Stay in! You can do it!!!!!
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 08:46 AM
Aug 2012

Might just send him some words of encouragment - "We need this debate, we want this debate....."

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