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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:08 AM Feb 2018

Houston-area school district threatens to suspend students who protest after Florida shooting

Source: The Houston Chronicle




By Shelby Webb February 20, 2018 Updated: February 21, 2018 7:50am

Needville ISD Superintendent Curtis Rhodes on Wednesday threatened to suspend any student who disrupts schools or walks out to protest current gun laws.

In a letter sent to families and published on schools' social media sites, Rhodes said students would face a three-day, out-of-school suspension if they joined in growing protests nationwide over the shooting at a Florida high school last week.

"Life is all about choices and every choice has a consequence whether it be positive or negative. We will discipline no matter if it is one, fifty, or five hundred students involved," Rhodes wrote. "All will be suspended for 3 days and parent notes will not alleviate the discipline."

Student organizers in Florida are planning a March for our Lives on March 24 in Washington, D.C. to demand action on gun control. A National School Walkout planned by the Women's March organizers is set for March 14.



Read more: https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/education/article/Houston-area-school-district-threatens-to-suspend-12628365.php

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Houston-area school district threatens to suspend students who protest after Florida shooting (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2018 OP
The line is drawn Roy Rolling Feb 2018 #1
That just makes it a three-day walkout. forgotmylogin Feb 2018 #44
oh fuck, I hope they all walk out ... yuiyoshida Feb 2018 #2
+1000 nt Javaman Feb 2018 #30
me too thern that evening protest at the home of that Superintendent gopiscrap Feb 2018 #41
Wouldn't March 14 be right in the middle of Spring Break in a lot of places? tanyev Feb 2018 #3
yes it is. the superintendent isn't the brightest bulb in the lot... Javaman Feb 2018 #32
I hope the students walk out anyway! ananda Feb 2018 #4
students at these 5 tex universities can protest right at their schools for certainot Feb 2018 #25
The American bots of RW hate media are as bad as the foreign bots. Fred Sanders Feb 2018 #39
yes! Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2018 #45
A Challenge? SCVDem Feb 2018 #5
I bet if they walked out for Jesus Farmer-Rick Feb 2018 #6
Amen nt backtoblue Feb 2018 #40
Students can just remind them of "Tinker v. Des Moines School District" and, if suspended, FailureToCommunicate Feb 2018 #7
The SCOTUS Majority Opinion in that case csziggy Feb 2018 #34
An armband vs a walkout -- the latter could create disruption. moriah Feb 2018 #37
What a dumbass. Rhodes your punishment said students would face a three-day, Historic NY Feb 2018 #8
He just had to create a problem where none existed. Grins Feb 2018 #9
Maybe the parents should file an injunction on their young adults behalf turbinetree Feb 2018 #10
I am curious how other school districts will handle this. Chemisse Feb 2018 #11
WTF? DownriverDem Feb 2018 #12
School board members: dalton99a Feb 2018 #13
Of course. What a good ol' boys club. nt Ilsa Feb 2018 #15
School Board Members Have To Wear The Same Clothes? ProfessorGAC Feb 2018 #27
Disrespect for the office because tan pants and mom jeans OhNo-Really Feb 2018 #28
I wonder when his NRA membership expires? Ilsa Feb 2018 #14
Oh! That is utterly stupid!!! longship Feb 2018 #16
School flu Marthe48 Feb 2018 #17
The more students involved, the harder it will be to punish them IronLionZion Feb 2018 #18
I think my district will support it hibbing Feb 2018 #19
What a STUPID response that is sure to backfire. hlthe2b Feb 2018 #20
Clearly Texas considers the 2nd Amendment more important than the 1st. Nitram Feb 2018 #21
seems like bluestarone Feb 2018 #24
Hmm..School cowers in face of free speech BadgerKid Feb 2018 #22
retalitation is a real thing dembotoz Feb 2018 #23
Al Pacino in Scent of a woman bronxiteforever Feb 2018 #26
Oh! rownesheck Feb 2018 #29
Don't get your hopes up Pope George Ringo II Feb 2018 #31
When is the next school board election?? Pic shows all white, all male bobbieinok Feb 2018 #33
Won't matter. Pope George Ringo II Feb 2018 #35
If only they were as upset about school shootings as student protests... nt Gore1FL Feb 2018 #36
The knuckle draggers The Wizard Feb 2018 #38
If I were a Senior in that High School.... Orange Free State Feb 2018 #42
Needville is a very rural school district Gothmog Feb 2018 #43
Don't the schools get funding based on each day a student attends? sarcasmo Feb 2018 #46
This is the same Loser district that in the past decade or so: MarcA Feb 2018 #47
We can't have those kids thinking for themselves! RainCaster Feb 2018 #48

forgotmylogin

(7,527 posts)
44. That just makes it a three-day walkout.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 01:49 PM
Feb 2018

They are all Spartacus - if every one of them walks out, what are they going to do? Suspend the whole student body and shut down for three days?

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
2. oh fuck, I hope they all walk out ...
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:12 AM
Feb 2018

That would show them, let them suspend thousands and lose lots of fucking money in the process!

ananda

(28,858 posts)
4. I hope the students walk out anyway!
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:14 AM
Feb 2018

In fact, the students everywhere should just go on strike
till change actually happens!

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
25. students at these 5 tex universities can protest right at their schools for
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 11:04 AM
Feb 2018

their endorsement of 16 limbaugh stations - Texas A&M 9, Texas Tech 4, Texas 1, Texas Christian 1, Baylor 1

and here are 20 limbagh/NRA radio stations that depend on 5 fla universities - 20 Florida 10, Florida St. 4 Miami 2, South Florida 2, Central Florida 2 - to keep broadasting sports on them so they can keep broadcasting limbaugh and local blowhards as they attack the students, make excuses for the NRA and enable the trump teabags around the country to keep obstructing gun control and keep r-con reps in line

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,328 posts)
45. yes!
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 03:43 PM
Feb 2018

They sow disinformation with exuberance. Some of the stuff they're saying about those survivors is just disgusting.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
5. A Challenge?
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:14 AM
Feb 2018

Young people love a challenge, especially to authority!

Get ready for some vacation time off asshole!

But first you will be on the tee vee ''splaining" why you are so out of touch with your students!

Farmer-Rick

(10,160 posts)
6. I bet if they walked out for Jesus
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:16 AM
Feb 2018

There would be no suspensions.

But they can pretend it's all about choices when it is really all about making the choice they want you to make. They obviously support the NRA and are trying to stop protesters.

Choices my behind, since when do they in Texas support a woman's right to choose abortions or anything else?

FailureToCommunicate

(14,013 posts)
7. Students can just remind them of "Tinker v. Des Moines School District" and, if suspended,
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:18 AM
Feb 2018

speak proudly of their sentence for standing up for a righteous cause.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
34. The SCOTUS Majority Opinion in that case
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 11:25 AM
Feb 2018
The court's 7–2 decision held that the First Amendment applied to public schools, and that administrators would have to demonstrate constitutionally valid reasons for any specific regulation of speech in the classroom. The court observed, "It can hardly be argued that either students or teachers shed their constitutional rights to freedom of speech or expression at the schoolhouse gate."[4] Justice Abe Fortas wrote the majority opinion, holding that the speech regulation at issue in Tinker was "based upon an urgent wish to avoid the controversy which might result from the expression, even by the silent symbol of armbands, of opposition to this Nation's part in the conflagration in Vietnam." The Court held that for school officials to justify censoring speech, they "must be able to show that [their] action was caused by something more than a mere desire to avoid the discomfort and unpleasantness that always accompany an unpopular viewpoint," that the conduct that would "materially and substantially interfere with the requirements of appropriate discipline in the operation of the school."[5] The Court found that the actions of the Tinkers in wearing armbands did not cause disruption and held that their activity represented constitutionally protected symbolic speech.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinker_v._Des_Moines_Independent_Community_School_District#Majority_opinion


Thank you for bringing this up. Every school official SHOULD be familiar with it so we don't have to keep fighting this shit over and over again.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
37. An armband vs a walkout -- the latter could create disruption.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 11:37 AM
Feb 2018

However, I doubt any honor roll kids are going to lose scholarships over a 3-day ISS for this.

Could actually help, potentially, if they're going for a pre-law program. I dunno how many would put "Actively participated in our democracy despite the threatened suspension" on their college apps, but...

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
8. What a dumbass. Rhodes your punishment said students would face a three-day,
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:19 AM
Feb 2018

out-of-school suspension if they joined in growing protests nationwide . Thats 3 days to support the other kids!!!! 1day vs 3days.

Grins

(7,217 posts)
9. He just had to create a problem where none existed.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:22 AM
Feb 2018

Could have been handled much better, but, no. Had to show his ass. This is just the authoritarian mind at work on those they think they own. Eff this guy.

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
10. Maybe the parents should file an injunction on their young adults behalf
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:23 AM
Feb 2018

and have it stated that under the First Amendment they can Protest, and tell this right wing asshole to go fuck himself basically, little fucking dictator huh, if I lived there I would tell my son or daughter take the day off and protest, I will take this asshole to court................. and then he threatens the parents, he should be fired, no wonder teachers, parents are worried about there family and love ones...................because their children and family members teachers are being massacred across the country








November 2018 cannot get here fast enough

Chemisse

(30,809 posts)
11. I am curious how other school districts will handle this.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:25 AM
Feb 2018

If administrators were supportive of the demonstration, they would be accused of playing politics with the students. And they would be liable if any student got hurt while going out of the school.

I think they would have to stand against it, but might vary in how enthusiastically they dole out punishments.

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
12. WTF?
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:25 AM
Feb 2018

And repubs wonder why we hate them so much! If a lot of them protest, what is the school going to do, expel them all?

ProfessorGAC

(65,001 posts)
27. School Board Members Have To Wear The Same Clothes?
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 11:07 AM
Feb 2018

That's just ridiculous. Put on a dress shirt and tie, morons. And the guy in the middle, wear dress pants like everyone else, you dullard.

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
18. The more students involved, the harder it will be to punish them
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:35 AM
Feb 2018

I don't know if I would do it in similar circumstances since it's been decades since I was in school. But if hundreds of students walk out in protest, then it makes a bigger statement when they all get suspended. They can also use the suspension time to conduct other protests.

It will also be something to write about in college applications because they would have been punished for doing something useful instead of something bad.

hibbing

(10,097 posts)
19. I think my district will support it
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:37 AM
Feb 2018

Certainly the district will not punish students who participate. I think they will use it as an opportunity. I talked with a former long time principal yesterday and that is how he thinks the district will respond. I hope this really does get organized and the protests are massive.

Peace

hlthe2b

(102,231 posts)
20. What a STUPID response that is sure to backfire.
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:42 AM
Feb 2018

Accord them some respect and negotiate a way in which they can participate and show their support for the movement without losing the entirety of the current school session. A day off here or there is surely not going to devastate and could go such a long way in teaching CIVICS and the lessons of personal responsibility.

BadgerKid

(4,551 posts)
22. Hmm..School cowers in face of free speech
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:50 AM
Feb 2018

I think we're witnessing the formation of a new generation's voice.

dembotoz

(16,799 posts)
23. retalitation is a real thing
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 11:02 AM
Feb 2018

getting on the wrong side of administration can be bad for your plans for the future

i support the student walk out and would be proud if my kids walked(they are not out of highschool)
but then again i can not help or sink a students hope for a certain school

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
26. Al Pacino in Scent of a woman
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 11:04 AM
Feb 2018


As I came in here, I heard those words: "cradle of leadership."
Well, when the bough breaks, the cradle will fall, and it has fallen here.
It has fallen.

Makers of men, creators of leaders. Be careful what kind of leaders you're producin' here.
Now here's Charlie. He's come to the crossroads.
He has chosen a path.
It's the right path.
It's a path made of principle...that leads to character.
Let him continue on his journey.
You hold this boy's future in your hands, Committee.
It's a valuable future, believe me.
Don't destroy it. Protect it. Embrace it. It's gonna make you proud one day, I promise you. How's that for cornball?

rownesheck

(2,343 posts)
29. Oh!
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 11:14 AM
Feb 2018

please!!! I hope the entire district full of kids walks out! Decisions have consequences, superintendent...

Pope George Ringo II

(1,896 posts)
31. Don't get your hopes up
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 11:15 AM
Feb 2018

Needville has a population of about 3,000. It's basically a bunch of rednecks. This heavy-handed proclamation is about playing to their parents, and frankly most of the kids are going to treat it as red meat too. If you're going to crap on the school board, do it for taking a bombastic stand against a foe that really doesn't exist for them.

And a few hours after this, they had a student arrested for threatening to take a shotgun to school.

https://www.click2houston.com/news/needville-teen-threatens-junior-high-in-snapchat-post-with-shotgun-image-authorities-say

The Wizard

(12,542 posts)
38. The knuckle draggers
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 11:42 AM
Feb 2018

are being rejected by all normal Americans. We've had enough of their feigned outrage and Pox News propaganda.

Orange Free State

(611 posts)
42. If I were a Senior in that High School....
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 01:01 PM
Feb 2018

I’d do the walkout, take the suspension, find a place to take the GED and go off to college. No need to look back, and I’d wear that GED like a badge of honor. Many universities would welcome a student who has taken a stand like that.

MarcA

(2,195 posts)
47. This is the same Loser district that in the past decade or so:
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 10:46 PM
Feb 2018

Suspended an elementary school boy for having braided hair,
Had an in house suspension on another high school student for
refusing to stand for the pledge, And the same superintendent,
showing personal responsibility values, said their dirty-playing
softball catcher wasn't really a bad person. Yeah, they really
have some Kultural values there.

RainCaster

(10,869 posts)
48. We can't have those kids thinking for themselves!
Wed Feb 21, 2018, 11:03 PM
Feb 2018

Our one-size-fits-all policies of zero-tolerance-means-zero-thinking are the best thing for society.

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