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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 04:19 PM Feb 2018

Trump once again wants to cut energy assistance to the poor

Source: Associated Press




By DAVID SHARP

PORTLAND, Maine (AP) — The Trump administration is once again calling for the complete elimination of a heating assistance program that helps to keep the homes of low-income families warm. And once again, program supporters are vowing to fight it.

The administration is using the same arguments from a year ago when it tried to abolish the program, saying it’s rife with fraud and that no one would be left freezing if the program goes away.

“These arguments are very misleading and wrong,” said Mark Wolfe, director of the National Energy Assistance Directors’ Association in Washington, D.C.

The program, known as LIHEAP — Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program — helps families pay their heating bills primarily in the form of a grant that’s sent directly to utility companies or heating fuel vendors.

Read more: https://apnews.com/3218910423c3415ba4dba6a6a5b25dbb/Trump-once-again-wants-to-cut-energy-assistance-to-the-poor

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Trump once again wants to cut energy assistance to the poor (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2018 OP
Probably needs to transfer more wealth to the wealthiest. democratisphere Feb 2018 #1
greens fees Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2018 #2
speaking of fees..... OhNo-Really Feb 2018 #7
South Africa, too. OhNo-Really Feb 2018 #8
Ontario Canada considering Prepaid Electricity meters OhNo-Really Feb 2018 #10
solar panels Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2018 #12
We have them where I live. They're the same meters. You prepay at the office or online. 7962 Feb 2018 #15
Coming to America - Trump Power Meters OhNo-Really Feb 2018 #17
Excellent question. Let's call Rick Perry and brainstorm OhNo-Really Feb 2018 #18
Yes, those 10-bedroom mansions have huuuuge heating bills. KY_EnviroGuy Feb 2018 #27
........make sure the poor and middle class are left way behind. democratisphere Feb 2018 #29
Very Ayn Randian of them, wouldn't you say? KY_EnviroGuy Feb 2018 #31
............and cult leader! democratisphere Feb 2018 #32
He wants to kill the poor sakabatou Feb 2018 #3
All GOP want to , they just wont say it out loud. Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #26
"No one would be left freezing"?? red dog 1 Feb 2018 #4
I think I know what that asshat is refering to............ Bengus81 Feb 2018 #11
A lot of people heat with oil. Chemisse Feb 2018 #24
I live in northern CA, and Pacific Gas & Electric Co. (PG&E) will shut you off after sending you red dog 1 Feb 2018 #36
Someone needs to go take care of this guy...THIS AFTERNOON..... onecent Feb 2018 #5
I'd settle for THIS YEAR! red dog 1 Feb 2018 #6
please don't Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2018 #13
+1 Chemisse Feb 2018 #25
Glad there's never been FRAUD in any Pentagon contracts eh Donnie??? Bengus81 Feb 2018 #9
Hasn't he scraped the bottom of the barrel yet trying to make Doitnow Feb 2018 #14
Oh heavens no. Jedi Guy Feb 2018 #22
We qualify but woundedkarma Feb 2018 #16
Mealworm realFedUp Feb 2018 #19
Trump wants to "KILL US ALL" ..... BY all, i mean middle class and poor trueblue2007 Feb 2018 #20
Meanwhile, the cost of heating oil is skyrocketing. Any tax break you might have gotten is gone. Vinca Feb 2018 #21
Isn't this in your Bible? Jedi Guy Feb 2018 #23
Did you expect anything less from him? moriah Feb 2018 #28
We still do--Bill and Melinda Gates to name two,so it's not all lost. Yet............ Bengus81 Feb 2018 #35
Hey sexual predator want to know what fraud is................... turbinetree Feb 2018 #30
My mom uses it to buy firewood. MissB Feb 2018 #33
A Trump Voter Finds out the Chickens have come home to roost KWR65 Feb 2018 #34

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,328 posts)
2. greens fees
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 04:44 PM
Feb 2018

He's afraid the Treasury will run out of money for him to use to golf.

Diet cokes and KFC are more pressing national needs than sad losers freezing to death.

And Melania prefers separate motorcades. Pruitt and Shulkin can't be expected to fly with the peasants.

Besides, there's the parade to pay for!

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
7. speaking of fees.....
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 05:05 PM
Feb 2018

Did you know that in London area, low income housing units have Electricity Meaters in them LIKE parking meters. The poor get to buy an hour or two of electricty. True

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
15. We have them where I live. They're the same meters. You prepay at the office or online.
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 05:29 PM
Feb 2018

Somehow the electric co. keeps up with it. They text you your balance every day. I know a couple people who use the service. The fee per kilowatt is the same as if you were. regularly billed customer. Most who use it are people who either cant come up with the initial deposit or have a shitty history with the utility.

Of course, other areas may use a different type of meter, but I dont know why they would

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,490 posts)
27. Yes, those 10-bedroom mansions have huuuuge heating bills.
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 07:35 PM
Feb 2018


GOP Rule: Leave no billionaire out in the cold.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
26. All GOP want to , they just wont say it out loud.
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 07:14 PM
Feb 2018

They are actively trying to kill the elderly and the poor and POC and gay people and Latinos and Muslims and I could go on and on.

red dog 1

(27,792 posts)
4. "No one would be left freezing"??
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 04:56 PM
Feb 2018

BULLSHIT!

This is yet another example of how this heartless bastard is costing people their very lives.

How much longer before this racist, stupid, narcissistic child-rapist is removed from office?


(K&R, thanks for posting)

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
11. I think I know what that asshat is refering to............
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 05:16 PM
Feb 2018

They might have a program like where I live as to where they can't shut you off from Nov 1 through about mid March--this is with electricity and natural gas. THEN they can come out and shut you off in a second on that date,and they WILL.

But we've had blizzards here in April so yeah March 15th doesn't mean spring and 75 degree days like that POS is thinking. Also if you have a gas fired water heater your going to be taking some really cold showers.

red dog 1

(27,792 posts)
36. I live in northern CA, and Pacific Gas & Electric Co. (PG&E) will shut you off after sending you
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 05:06 PM
Feb 2018

a "Payment Overdue" notice, and they don't care what month it is.

I doubt that Shitler is referring to the program they have where you live (but it's possible)

I think it's just another example of why he's often referred to as the "Liar-in-Chief"

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,328 posts)
13. please don't
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 05:20 PM
Feb 2018

There are nuts in the world who will take that seriously.

Mid-terms, mid-terms, mid-terms.
We're all in this together.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
9. Glad there's never been FRAUD in any Pentagon contracts eh Donnie???
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 05:09 PM
Feb 2018

But hey,if people need to FREEZE to help pay for a 14% tax cut for Corporations then I guess it's just a done deal...........


Doitnow

(1,103 posts)
14. Hasn't he scraped the bottom of the barrel yet trying to make
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 05:21 PM
Feb 2018

some vulnerable sector of the population miserable? Pure slob is what he is. And the whole Rethug lot.

Jedi Guy

(3,185 posts)
22. Oh heavens no.
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 06:57 PM
Feb 2018

He hit the bottom of the barrel quite some time ago. Then he started digging. Just when you think he can go no lower...

 

woundedkarma

(498 posts)
16. We qualify but
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 05:29 PM
Feb 2018

Every time I try to fill out the stuff on my taxes, it's a pain in the butt and I give up. I don't remember how bad it was but it just wasn't worth the effort ...

Maybe other people have more luck.

realFedUp

(25,053 posts)
19. Mealworm
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 05:40 PM
Feb 2018

OH for Godsake guys and DV, this waste of a human body will say no to anything anti-American. Get a fucking hobby and secure what you own.

trueblue2007

(17,205 posts)
20. Trump wants to "KILL US ALL" ..... BY all, i mean middle class and poor
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 05:42 PM
Feb 2018

aged, disabled, people of color, women .... anyone whi isn't a Trillionairre.

Vinca

(50,269 posts)
21. Meanwhile, the cost of heating oil is skyrocketing. Any tax break you might have gotten is gone.
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 06:17 PM
Feb 2018

It's hard to imagine anyone is so evil they would allow a poor person to freeze to death, but that's what we're stuck with. "Good Christian" Don.

Jedi Guy

(3,185 posts)
23. Isn't this in your Bible?
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 07:02 PM
Feb 2018

"Yea, verily, I say unto you, if some poor loser can't pay his heating bill, cut the slob off and let him freeze to death." The Gospel According to Donald 5:13. It's part of the famous Sermon from Mar-a-Lago.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
28. Did you expect anything less from him?
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 07:44 PM
Feb 2018

If we're going to have presidents from multi-generational wealthy families, couldn't they at least believe that being born with much means you're obligated to give back much to society?

We used to have wealthy people who thought this way. I know we did. They wrote a lot of great stuff and their names are all over charities.

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
30. Hey sexual predator want to know what fraud is...................
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 08:37 PM
Feb 2018

MissB

(15,805 posts)
33. My mom uses it to buy firewood.
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 10:55 PM
Feb 2018

That’s what they use to heat the house. I’m sure my brothers and I would just close the gap.

KWR65

(1,098 posts)
34. A Trump Voter Finds out the Chickens have come home to roost
Sun Feb 18, 2018, 10:55 PM
Feb 2018
If the president turned around and did away with that funding, I have no idea how we’d survive in the winter,” said Dwayne LaBrecque, a diabetic who is on disability after losing several toes and part of his foot to infection.

LaBrecque’s income plummeted when he lost his job as a shipping manager, leaving him to cobble together an existence for himself, his fiancee and their five children in the rural Maine town of Hartford. The family received about $1,000 in heating assistance this winter, and that money is already gone.

The Trump supporter said he hopes the president has a change of heart. He said he won’t be voting for Trump again if he succeeds in killing off the program.


I remember when I watched a PBS Front Line interview of a Trump Voter and he thought a few months after Trump was elected he MAGA. Although in the town he lived in employment and business wise nothing had change.
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