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Sat Jan 13, 2018, 03:09 PM

Chelsea Manning files to run for U.S. Senate in Maryland

Source: The Washington Post



By Justin Jouvenal January 13 at 1:31 PM

Chelsea Manning, the transgender former Army private who was convicted of passing sensitive government documents to Wikileaks, has filed to run for the U.S. Senate in Maryland, according to federal election filings.

Manning, who did not immediately respond to a request for comment, would be challenging Ben Cardin, who has served two terms in the Senate. He was first elected in 2007.

Manning, 30, who is formerly known as Bradley Manning, was convicted in 2013 of the largest leak of classified documents in U.S. history and was sentenced to 35 years in prison. Last year, then President Obama commuted Manningís sentence and she was released from a military prison.

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Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/chelsea-manning-files-to-run-for-us-senate-in-maryland/2018/01/13/6439f0d0-f88c-11e7-beb6-c8d48830c54d_story.html

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Reply Chelsea Manning files to run for U.S. Senate in Maryland (Original post)
DonViejo Jan 2018 OP
Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #1
pnwmom Jan 2018 #7
Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #41
Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #46
Ken Burch Jan 2018 #62
politicaljunkie41910 Jan 2018 #73
Ken Burch Jan 2018 #86
Fummel Jan 2018 #105
Bradical79 Jan 2018 #106
DURHAM D Jan 2018 #2
BeyondGeography Jan 2018 #3
MineralMan Jan 2018 #4
LeftInTX Jan 2018 #8
MineralMan Jan 2018 #9
Demsrule86 Jan 2018 #47
TimeToGo Jan 2018 #5
john657 Jan 2018 #6
Calista241 Jan 2018 #13
Loki Liesmith Jan 2018 #10
TheCowsCameHome Jan 2018 #11
NurseJackie Jan 2018 #12
peggysue2 Jan 2018 #14
JohnnyRingo Jan 2018 #15
StevieM Jan 2018 #29
JohnnyRingo Jan 2018 #74
roscoeroscoe Jan 2018 #77
jberryhill Jan 2018 #87
bucolic_frolic Jan 2018 #16
Pholus Jan 2018 #81
Salviati Jan 2018 #17
Bradical79 Jan 2018 #107
moondust Jan 2018 #18
LeftInTX Jan 2018 #19
moondust Jan 2018 #25
marble falls Jan 2018 #20
RhodeIslandOne Jan 2018 #50
Old Vet Jan 2018 #79
Mr.Bill Jan 2018 #21
john657 Jan 2018 #22
Historic NY Jan 2018 #24
24601 Jan 2018 #69
FreepFryer Jan 2018 #23
aeromanKC Jan 2018 #26
rogue emissary Jan 2018 #27
Me. Jan 2018 #28
Eliot Rosewater Jan 2018 #43
Me. Jan 2018 #44
PragmaticDem Jan 2018 #30
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MineralMan Jan 2018 #32
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pnwmom Jan 2018 #35
jmowreader Jan 2018 #36
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mcar Jan 2018 #38
elleng Jan 2018 #39
mcar Jan 2018 #40
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RhodeIslandOne Jan 2018 #51
mcar Jan 2018 #63
Cha Jan 2018 #76
flamingprogressive Jan 2018 #45
janterry Jan 2018 #48
rtracey Jan 2018 #49
The_Casual_Observer Jan 2018 #52
stevenleser Jan 2018 #59
The_Casual_Observer Jan 2018 #64
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The_Casual_Observer Jan 2018 #67
EllieBC Jan 2018 #68
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JI7 Jan 2018 #75
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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 03:10 PM

1. Let me see , how do I put this

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #1)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 03:21 PM

7. Are you being sarcastic? Why should she challenge a Democrat? No, thanks. n/t

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #7)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 06:18 PM

41. Oops, my bad. I forgot, you are right.

I think what Chelsea did back when was brave and patriotic but I dont want to primary democrats.

I didnt read past the headline, my bad.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #7)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 08:09 PM

46. It is ridiculous...I swear primarying Democrats in this environment is stupid.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #46)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 11:02 PM

62. Which means no Democrat can be held accountable by Dems until years from now...

 

...when it will be too late to matter...

I'm not saying we should primary people, but do we really, REALLY have to set up a situation in which the only people to whom Dem politicians can be held accountable are people to their right?

We don't need to take the position that all dissent within this party is treated as intolerable.

It's not possible to suppress dissent in one election and then ever allow it again later.

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Response to Ken Burch (Reply #62)

Sun Jan 14, 2018, 02:32 AM

73. And why do we have to set up a situation where we have to promote law breakers, and possible loons

for Congress. There are plenty of competent people who could run, and from what we've been hearing, many are. So why do we have to even consider someone who broke the law (and he/she did regardless of motive), and who has stability issues? We can do better. The fact that President Obama pardoned her has more to do with her mental issues/stability than her fitness to run for Congress. Then on the other hand, Congress seems to have their share of folks who may have their own mental stability issues these days. Dare I say Congressman Nunez.

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Response to politicaljunkie41910 (Reply #73)

Sun Jan 14, 2018, 03:12 PM

86. I'm actually just talking about the idea that there should be zero tolerance for primary challenges.

 

As to the idea that law breakers should not be allowed to stand in our primaries...applied strictly, Andrew Young and Bobby Rush could never have been congressmen, no one who was ever an organizer for the United Farm Workers could ever have run for anything and Tom Hayden could not have had a long and effective career in the California State Senate.

Historically, we'd have had to turn down anybody ever arrested in an antiwar or antiapartheid protest, most suffragettes or abolitionists(had they wished to run as Democrats-in their era they likely wouldn't have, but then again in their era how many of US would have?) or anyone involved of the great strikes in the early history of the American labor movement.

In the 18th and early 19th Century, anybody who signed the Declaration of Independence would have been barred(defying the British Empire was always a violation of the laws of the day).

Whatever you think about Chelsea(I doubt her campaign would actually catch on, and I'm not sure why she decided on a Senate race) those are the implications of a strict "no lawbreakers" policy.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 16, 2018, 03:54 AM

105. Duplicate

 

Sorry.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 16, 2018, 10:52 AM

106. That would be terrible

Despite what she's been through, knowingly or not, she still sent 750,000 documents to a hostile foreign power. She'd be a terrible candidate, especially with Russia's colaboration with Wikileaks to get Trump elected.

I don't think she has a realistic shot, but still, she would be an embarassment (and maybe dangerous) to the party and country.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 03:11 PM

2. No thanks. nt

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 03:14 PM

3. Absurd

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 03:15 PM

4. WTF? Is this a joke?

If not, who put her up to this bonehead move? I'd better go over and check JPR...

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #4)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 03:22 PM

8. LOL!!!

One of their heroes!!!

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Response to LeftInTX (Reply #8)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 03:23 PM

9. Apparently, they haven't heard about it...

Uff da!

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Response to LeftInTX (Reply #8)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 08:09 PM

47. Not if she runs against sitting Democrats...silly move.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 03:19 PM

5. Not a good idea

Her choice, of course, but . . .

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 03:20 PM

6. Is this a joke?

I hope so, I would never vote for this, in my opinion, traitor.

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Response to john657 (Reply #6)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 03:32 PM

13. it has to be a joke. n/t

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 03:23 PM

10. Shes a waste of skin

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 03:25 PM

11. Impeccable credentials.

Just what we need - someone with a spotless reputation.

Huh? Is this a joke?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 03:25 PM

12. I'm a Ben Cardin supporter. I won't be voting for Ms Manning.

He's a ranking member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee ... I trust his experience.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 03:40 PM

14. Ah . . .

No! And challenging Ben Cardin who just released the Report from the Foreign Intelligence Committee on pervasive Russian influence in our elections and systems and those of our Allies?

Double No!

I suggest Ms Manning chat up Julian Assange, see if he has any openings at Wikileaks.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 03:42 PM

15. Since when did the senate become an entry level position?

The moran in the White House is a perfect example of what happens when we elect an "outsider" who hasn't climbed the rungs of politics for higher ofice. There are exceptions of course, like the great Al Franken, but usually jumping into a job without qualification is foolish.

Ms Manning should test the waters at a state level office first to see if she has the chops, not only for politics, but to see if she can even weather the slings and arrows of an election, IMO.

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Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #15)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 04:21 PM

29. If Trump had experience he would be even worse. And I will happily vote for Tom Steyer

to be the next president of the United States.

As for Chelsea Manning, I don't see her campaign going anywhere.

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Response to StevieM (Reply #29)

Sun Jan 14, 2018, 02:35 AM

74. Steyer rules.

I wish I had a billion dollars so I could follow his example. ...And also buy a Lamborghini.

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Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #15)

Sun Jan 14, 2018, 06:48 AM

77. Exactly

Totally agree. Start on a city board.

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Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #15)

Sun Jan 14, 2018, 05:59 PM

87. THIS, THIS, A MILLION TIMES THIS!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 03:43 PM

16. A waste of ego

Ain't going ANYWHERE. I hope she is kept off the ballot, this is beyond absurd. Has someone on the far right put her up to it?

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #16)

Sun Jan 14, 2018, 08:56 AM

81. Putin Poodle Assange probably did.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 03:45 PM

17. It would drive republicans crazy...

... but making decisions on the basis of trolling the other party crazy is a terrible way to run the country. See the current republican party.

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Response to Salviati (Reply #17)

Tue Jan 16, 2018, 10:56 AM

107. Considering the Wikileaks thing

Trump and his allies would welcome a Democratic Senator like her. It would open up a new line for them to attack "Democrat hypocracy".

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 03:46 PM

18. Ugh.

This could get ugly.

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Response to moondust (Reply #18)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 03:51 PM

19. I don't think so

Chelsea will be a fringe candidate, who won't get much traction.

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Response to LeftInTX (Reply #19)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 04:00 PM

25. Maybe.

But in today's ugly environment even a fringe candidate with a record like hers could potentially bring a lot of self-righteous, attention-seeking, mouth-breathing bigots out of the woodwork.

It also makes me wonder how much of the stuff she has done was done for publicity.

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Response to moondust (Reply #18)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 03:53 PM

20. I might/could vote for Manning, but not against a sitting Democrat...

couldn't she go pick on a Republican Congressman in Maryland???

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Response to marble falls (Reply #20)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 09:51 PM

50. Her handlers know what they're doing n/m

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 03:53 PM

21. Well, the Senate is the job of choice

for some of those with no other marketable skills, isn't it?

Her application for a security clearance would be hilarious to read. Perhaps the Trump kids could help her fill it out.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #21)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 03:54 PM

22. LOL!

Perfectly said.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #21)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 03:56 PM

24. +1

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #21)

Sun Jan 14, 2018, 01:01 AM

69. Members of Congress neither apply for security clearances nor are adjudicated. All classification is

originated in the Executive Branch. The federal judiciary are granted access as needed and members of congress usually have access to to all classified appropriations & authorization legislation; however, most members not in leadership or on intelligence, armed services & appropriations committees tend to avoid going to the secure rooms where classified information is stored, processed & discussed. A Representative or Senator who requests information and is rebuffed by an administration has leverage if their colleagues back them up with respect to delaying/blocking legislation or nominations. But even if they get a contempt vote out of it, the administration just refuses to prosecute it.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 03:56 PM

23. Her job history in handling confidential information is a bit spotty. (n/t)

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 04:08 PM

26. No, No, and NO!!

Manning is to the left as Arpio is to the Right.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 04:08 PM

27. We have enough Hillary hating bigots in the U.S. Senate.



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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 04:10 PM

28. SeriousLy?

Why doesn't she challenge a Con instead that of a seated, valuable Senator? Perhaps as she has never held office she should start with local gov. first. I find it ironic that a person convicted of handing over docs to Wikileaks would challenge one of the few senators who is trying to stop cyber crimes.

ďDemocrats on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee are calling on the Trump administration to vastly expand the U.S. response to Russian interference in elections, with increased sanctions and a new inter-agency body to coordinate government policies.

In a 200-page report commissioned by Sen. Ben Cardin of Maryland and released Wednesday, Democratic committee staff describe efforts by Russia to influence elections throughout Europe for years and say many of those countries have made aggressive moves to push back.

With months to go before this yearís midterm elections, the Democrats contend that Washington does not yet have a coherent plan to confront Russian cyber campaigns aimed at disrupting U.S. democracy. Cardin ó a longtime critic of Russian President Vladimir Putin ó said it was time to develop oneĒ.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/politics/bs-md-cardin-russian-20180109-story.html

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Response to Me. (Reply #28)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 06:25 PM

43. Exactly, when I first applauded this I didnt remember it would mean challenging a Dem and I didnt r

read past the headline

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #43)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 06:35 PM

44. It Happens

so much going on

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 04:43 PM

30. I would not vote for her.

 

But this will be up to the Democrats of MD.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 04:58 PM

31. Job experience? - Already been to prison.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 04:58 PM

32. Well, JPR has now discovered this. The cheer squad is on it.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 05:05 PM

33. Geez, you'd think she'd have learned not to talk to strangers.

This doesn't smell right at all.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 05:07 PM

34. Ben Cardin is a good guy and will get my vote.

Chelsea can just find another rock to crawl under. She's unqualified and unwanted.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 05:08 PM

35. Well, now we know she has a big ego, at least. Not much else would qualify her, though. n/t

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 05:21 PM

36. I smell Trump and his Russian handlers

I also expect Trump and his Russian handlers to try this against every Democratic senator up for election this year: pick people who are so awful I could beat them in November to primary every sitting Democratic senator in this class. With enough crossover voting, some of those individuals could make it to November...at which point they're easy pickings for the GOP.

There is a simple and effective way to counter this, but it's expensive: every damn time one of Trump's plants files to run for the Senate as a Democrat, we have someone whose campaign platform revolves around getting rid of Trump and erasing all the harm he has done file to run as a Republican.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 06:10 PM

37. I'm sure Assange and Putin are thrilled

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 06:12 PM

38. Why doesn't she run against an R for Congress

Or state leg? Why primary a good incumbent Dem?

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Response to mcar (Reply #38)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 06:16 PM

39. Maybe because there's only one R in the MD congressional delegation.

Andrew P. Harris (R-Cockeysville)

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Response to elleng (Reply #39)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 06:18 PM

40. Then start in the state leg

Primarying a sitting democratic senator is not a good move.

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Response to mcar (Reply #40)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 06:20 PM

42. I agree that Primarying a sitting democratic senator is not a good move.

I don't understand Manning's thinking, re: this matter. I do hope she finds some good, intelligent, wise advisers.

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Response to mcar (Reply #38)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 09:54 PM

51. You're assuming she cares about the Democratic party

Her advisors don't.

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Response to RhodeIslandOne (Reply #51)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 11:15 PM

63. Good points

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Response to RhodeIslandOne (Reply #51)

Sun Jan 14, 2018, 06:29 AM

76. That's what I was thinking..

I want to know who's and what's behind this move to primary a sitting Democratic Senator who seems to be doing a good job for Maryland.. and the country.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 07:38 PM

45. Waste of time

 

While i am no fan of cardin, he doesn't have the fire i want in a rep, and i support bds which he doesn't, this is a waste of time. And as far as andy harris, lone rethug fr md, his district would rather self immolate, than ever vote for a dem

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 08:38 PM

48. She was suicidal just a few short months ago

Is she ready for this?

It's her choice, of course, and I don't live there. I agree with others upthread, as well - this isn't a place that needed a primary.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 09:49 PM

49. pssssh

Why? What experience does Manning have? also, Maryland is not completely progressive democratic anymore. There are many pockets in my state that do vote democrat that are not completely progressive enough to vote for Manning.... The transgender WILL be an issue.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 09:56 PM

52. Manning is a champion of a lot of the young left.

The comments here on this post reveal some ignorance about how how the world is changing.

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Response to The_Casual_Observer (Reply #52)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 10:57 PM

59. So what? How does that translate into having a clue about being a senator?

 

The world can change all it wants. Manning is as qualified to be a senator as she is to be a brain surgeon.

People need to temper their tantrums about the "status quo" with the realization that qualifications still matter.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #59)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 11:38 PM

64. It's a statement. Calm down and get with it.

It's a protest thing. The guy in there is a dem but accomplishes nothing.

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Response to The_Casual_Observer (Reply #64)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 11:48 PM

65. I'm calm. She's still unqualified and supporting her for this position is moronic. nt

 

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #65)

Sun Jan 14, 2018, 12:23 AM

67. Most likely the guy in there has no more

Business being there than anybody else that cares about dem causes. Times are changing. Virginia was an indicator of what is possible. We don't need the same old lawyers and businessmen who are so called qualified.

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Response to The_Casual_Observer (Reply #67)

Sun Jan 14, 2018, 12:55 AM

68. Times are changing means unqualified candidates

who are trying to primary a sitting Democrat is a good thing? Not all change is good.

Oh I forgot. Young people have no regard for experience. I'm not too worried as most can't be bothered to vote. Voting isn't exciting like a rally and you can't instagram your selfies at the booth.

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Response to EllieBC (Reply #68)

Sun Jan 14, 2018, 01:17 AM

70. That sort of attitude led to Trump.

It's important to keep an open mind and accept change. The people you accuse of not voting are the same ones self organizing protests against fascists and trump. This is the dems of the future. Encourage it, the days of tweed coat chin stroking liberals is over.

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Response to The_Casual_Observer (Reply #70)

Sun Jan 14, 2018, 01:23 AM

71. No what gave us Trump was

Russians
Stein voters
People too lazy to vote or too mad their candidate didn't win the primary, I believe they like to call themselves "disillusioned" or "disenchanted"
Gerrymandering

Yes of course they like to go to protests. Again, like rallies it's sexy and exciting and they can post selfies. Voting isn't sexy. It's a civic duty.

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Response to EllieBC (Reply #71)

Sun Jan 14, 2018, 01:31 AM

72. Lee Carter won in VA based on fundamental

Dem issues. It was kids that got him there. He is the real thing, they got out the vote, dems. It happened all over the state, because the candidates actually had the balls to talk substance and mean it.
I used to think the same way as you do for ever, I'm not buying it anymore. These young people have something, they are motivated and they aren't buying the same old bullshit promises while we continue to get fucked by the republicans, the banks and the corporations.

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Response to The_Casual_Observer (Reply #72)

Sun Jan 14, 2018, 05:06 AM

75. Hillary won in Virginia also

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Response to The_Casual_Observer (Reply #64)

Sun Jan 14, 2018, 06:07 PM

88. What exactly has the Democratic senator from MD done wrong?

I'm not from Maryland. Please be specific about what he's done wrong. Does he vote with Republicans? Did he vote for the Republican tax bill? Did he vote to take away Obamacare?

Waiting for specifics on why he should be primaried by a celebrity. Thanks in advance.

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Response to The_Casual_Observer (Reply #52)

Mon Jan 15, 2018, 10:10 AM

91. Why? Assange (Manning's mentor) helped get Trump

Elected and spread lies about Hillary.

Why would ANYONE on the left support this person, let alone make her a hero?

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Response to Drahthaardogs (Reply #91)

Tue Jan 16, 2018, 12:30 AM

104. Went to jail to reveal Iraq war crimes.

That was enough I guess.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 09:57 PM

53. No...

Dems need to show they are the party of qualified candidates. I love Manning but Cardin is a fine senator. Manning is no way qualified for this office. She should Run for a lower level office first. Build the qualifications.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 10:02 PM

54. I thought the minimum age to run for US Senate was 35 years old...

 

Google says minimum age for US Senator is 30... I wonder when they changed it - didn't the minimum USED to be 35?

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Response to TheDebbieDee (Reply #54)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 10:54 PM

57. President - 35, Senate - 30, Representative - 25

Itís in the Constitution, hasnít changed.

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Response to tammywammy (Reply #57)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 11:52 PM

66. Thanks, Tammy...

 

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 10:28 PM

55. Unfortunately they don't have a petition requirement.

She only needs to pay a $290 filing fee.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 10:35 PM

56. I voted for Cardin before and will enthusiastically do it again. NT

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 10:55 PM

58. Her job history of doing what is right in impecable

 

I know we would all rather just pretend the war crimes in Afghanistan never happened and are not still happening. She is obviously a principled person with courage. Subjected to torture for disclosing the truth about our wars. The crimes have not stopped. Here is a little video making the rounds, about 20 sec. into it is the casual murder of an Afgani truck driver for no reason. This is why they hate us. She has the courage to ask the tough questions of our military.

https://www.facebook.com/EngageArmamentLLC/videos/1663752147017217/

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Response to wobblie (Reply #58)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 11:00 PM

60. She threw a tantrum and released hundreds of thousands of records willy-nilly.

 

In other words, she has the history of doing the wrong thing.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #60)

Sun Jan 14, 2018, 08:12 AM

80. only if you are in favor of war crimes

 

I understand there is a bipartisan consensus to keep the wars going, I think it is un-american.

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Response to wobblie (Reply #80)

Sun Jan 14, 2018, 08:58 AM

82. Where Wikileaks gets involved it's now clear the "transparency" is a motivated one.

You think Julian would have given Chelsea the time of day if this was about making Putin's boy Donnie look bad?

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Response to wobblie (Reply #80)

Tue Jan 16, 2018, 10:59 AM

108. So you claim all 750,000 documents are related to war crimes? -nt

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Response to wobblie (Reply #80)

Thu Jan 18, 2018, 02:25 PM

117. You have no idea of what you're talking about.

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Response to wobblie (Reply #58)

Thu Jan 18, 2018, 02:28 PM

118. She is, in my humble opinion,

no hero, as far as I'm concerned, she's a traitor who should still be in federal custody for the rest of her life.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sat Jan 13, 2018, 11:00 PM

61. She was convicted of violating federal law and now she's running for the

US senate so she can make federal law. How will she get a security clearance? NO NO NO NO NO NO

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jan 14, 2018, 07:15 AM

78. We dont need this shit. Honestly, theres too much at stake.

I have nothing against her personally, but please, not now, not this time!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jan 14, 2018, 09:06 AM

83. Republican party will $$$back Manning, to increase R turnout & split some Ds away from Cardin

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jan 14, 2018, 10:43 AM

84. Electing her will play well in middle America, dont you think?

Average Americans just love traitors who release information that get US assets killed. It will really burnish our reputation as a serious party!

Looks like Obama got suckered and it has always been about ego and deception for Ms. Manning. She should still be doing time.

And no surprise the nuts a JPR and a few of them who troll us here are supportive of this.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jan 14, 2018, 11:40 AM

85. No thanks.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jan 14, 2018, 06:56 PM

89. I'll just leave this here and see myself out

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #89)

Mon Jan 15, 2018, 08:49 AM

90. Yup...anyone who doesnt think she will get Kremlin funding and support for this run

is hopelessly naive.

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #90)

Mon Jan 15, 2018, 10:10 AM

92. She won't

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #92)

Mon Jan 15, 2018, 10:28 AM

93. RT and Greenwald vociferously agree with you

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #93)

Mon Jan 15, 2018, 01:19 PM

94. Why would they waste $$ on a meaningless vanity campaign?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #94)

Mon Jan 15, 2018, 01:30 PM

95. Somebody did.

She has an ad up.

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Response to ucrdem (Reply #95)

Mon Jan 15, 2018, 02:36 PM

97. She has a video up which any college student with an iPhone could have created.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #97)

Mon Jan 15, 2018, 10:57 PM

103. She's not a college student. She washed out of a CC after one semester.

from her wiki: Chelsea "spent a semester studying history and English at Montgomery College, but left after failing an exam." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea_Manning

Does it matter? Yes, because legislators make laws and she has no business putting herself forward for that position without a JD.

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Response to ucrdem (Reply #103)

Thu Jan 18, 2018, 03:03 PM

119. but, but Trump .......

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Response to kwassa (Reply #119)

Fri Jan 19, 2018, 04:18 AM

120. Seriously.

Case in point. But at least he ran as a republican. Manning the Democrat spells trouble in November any way you slice it and was probably cooked up to draw attention away from the Trump train wreck and give repukes facing reelection a new Nancy Pelosi piŮata.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #94)

Mon Jan 15, 2018, 01:31 PM

96. Sow some discord among Democrats, give would-be Cardins down the road who might stand up to them

something to think about.

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #96)

Mon Jan 15, 2018, 08:07 PM

98. To have discord, you have to have Democrats divided...they won't be

My informed analysis:
- Manning won't have any significant funding to campaign
- Cardin won't even acknowledge Manning as a candidate
- Manning will get less that 10% in the Primary, assuming she stays in

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #98)

Mon Jan 15, 2018, 08:33 PM

99. Centrist Dems Launch Smear Campaign Against Young Trans Woman

All to Keep an Old Straight White Man in Power:

https://theintercept.com/2018/01/15/centrist-dems-launch-smear-campaign-against-young-trans-woman-all-to-keep-an-old-straight-white-man-in-power/

And there will be plenty more where that came from.

I donít think it will amount to much, but I didnít think Hillary would lose by 74 EVís either.

Our opponents are playing a long game, but you wonít even allow the possibility that sheís been talked into this and/or that her campaign will receive tangible support from people who wish us nothing but harm. Iím not one for tinfoil but Iím glad people are calling bullshit on this candidacy for more than just Manningís nonexistent resume. I find that much healthier than your informed analysis.

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #99)

Mon Jan 15, 2018, 08:38 PM

100. The average Democratic voter doesn't read the Intercept.

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #99)

Mon Jan 15, 2018, 09:20 PM

101. Ridiculous click bait

Danica Roem won in Virginia with solid backing from the party. Opposition to Manning has to do with just about everything other than being transgender.

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Response to tirebiter (Reply #101)

Mon Jan 15, 2018, 09:21 PM

102. Talk to Glenn

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #99)

Wed Jan 17, 2018, 02:08 PM

112. It's funny because the Intercept worked so hard to elect the current old straight white man

in the WH

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #94)

Tue Jan 16, 2018, 07:46 PM

110. To fuck things up for Cardin?

Maybe @XYchelsea poisons the well to the point where Dems stay home or split the vote and the Republican wins??

You're acting like we haven't seen this playbook executed before....

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #110)

Tue Jan 16, 2018, 10:43 PM

111. Actually, no...

...Name a Democratic candidate ginned up by the Republicans who caused discord?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #111)

Wed Jan 17, 2018, 02:09 PM

113. Is this some kind of joke?

I've known you for awhile and I know for a fact you're smarter than this...

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #113)

Wed Jan 17, 2018, 02:52 PM

114. Nope...

I have no doubt that Russia interfered in the Presidential Election, but there's no evidence they pressed Trump (or any other candidate) to run. And as for Cardin, he's a nice guy, but how is he consequential enough to warrant an attempt to interfere? If I was going to sow chaos, I'd at least pick someone who's a prospective Presidential candidate in 2020. And I'd pick an alternative candidate who'd have some actual prospects.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #114)

Thu Jan 18, 2018, 12:53 PM

116. Russia doesn't care about Manning winning, they only care about Cardin losing

If folks are fuckin' stupid enough to elect Manning, then that's a bonus for them.

And only God knows what they're cooking up for 2020

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Jan 16, 2018, 11:33 AM

109. If Chelsea Manning wishes to get involved in Public Service & Politics she should start at the state

...level and run for State Senate or Governor and work hard for her state and then show on a National level that she can represent her state.

I also cannot take her seriously that she would run against Ben Cardin, an excellent Democrat who is also working hard on protecting election integrity and going against the interference of the Russians....

What exactly is Chelsea running on as her platform and why she wants to primary Ben Cardin?

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Response to Pachamama (Reply #109)

Wed Jan 17, 2018, 04:37 PM

115. But she doesn't...

She wants to "make a statement".

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