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Wed Jan 3, 2018, 09:51 AM

Trump Tower meeting with Russians 'treasonous', Bannon says in explosive book

Source: The Guardian




David Smith in Washington
@smithinamerica

Wed 3 Jan ‘18 08.07 EST

Donald Trump’s former chief strategist Steve Bannon has described the Trump Tower meeting between the president’s son and a group of Russians during the 2016 election campaign as “treasonous” and “unpatriotic”, according to an explosive new book seen by the Guardian.

Bannon, speaking to author Michael Wolff, warned that the investigation into alleged collusion with the Kremlin will focus on money laundering and predicted: “They’re going to crack Don Junior like an egg on national TV.”

Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House, reportedly based on more than 200 interviews with the president, his inner circle and players in and around the administration, is one of the most eagerly awaited political books of the year. In it, Wolff lifts the lid on a White House lurching from crisis to crisis amid internecine warfare, with even some of Trump’s closest allies expressing contempt for him.

Bannon, who was chief executive of the Trump campaign in its final three months, then White House chief strategist for seven months before returning to the rightwing Breitbart News, is a central figure in the nasty, cutthroat drama, quoted extensively, often in salty language.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/03/donald-trump-russia-steve-bannon-michael-wolff

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Reply Trump Tower meeting with Russians 'treasonous', Bannon says in explosive book (Original post)
DonViejo Jan 2018 OP
woundedkarma Jan 2018 #1
olegramps Jan 2018 #44
Jim__ Jan 2018 #2
InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2018 #36
zentrum Jan 2018 #3
doc03 Jan 2018 #8
zentrum Jan 2018 #28
doc03 Jan 2018 #4
colorado_ufo Jan 2018 #27
PatSeg Jan 2018 #46
colorado_ufo Jan 2018 #48
PatSeg Jan 2018 #51
get the red out Jan 2018 #5
Wwcd Jan 2018 #52
Laf.La.Dem. Jan 2018 #6
Pharlo Jan 2018 #47
Wwcd Jan 2018 #53
concreteblue Jan 2018 #7
BumRushDaShow Jan 2018 #10
mobeau69 Jan 2018 #9
mountain grammy Jan 2018 #17
EricMaundry Jan 2018 #32
Bradical79 Jan 2018 #41
nycbos Jan 2018 #11
L. Coyote Jan 2018 #12
Gothmog Jan 2018 #13
bench scientist Jan 2018 #63
WhiteTara Jan 2018 #14
hlthe2b Jan 2018 #15
safeinOhio Jan 2018 #16
dalton99a Jan 2018 #18
barbtries Jan 2018 #19
Mc Mike Jan 2018 #20
mn9driver Jan 2018 #21
UCmeNdc Jan 2018 #22
spiderpig Jan 2018 #23
Chakaconcarne Jan 2018 #24
Sancho Jan 2018 #25
Justice Jan 2018 #26
DeminPennswoods Jan 2018 #29
GetRidOfThem Jan 2018 #37
DeminPennswoods Jan 2018 #55
Mc Mike Jan 2018 #64
HopeAgain Jan 2018 #30
nolabear Jan 2018 #31
EricMaundry Jan 2018 #33
vkkv Jan 2018 #34
mobeau69 Jan 2018 #43
meow2u3 Jan 2018 #35
mobeau69 Jan 2018 #38
Enoki33 Jan 2018 #39
turbinetree Jan 2018 #40
Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2018 #50
AllyCat Jan 2018 #42
Raven123 Jan 2018 #45
colorado_ufo Jan 2018 #49
BlueTsunami2018 Jan 2018 #54
questionseverything Jan 2018 #56
Blue_Tires Jan 2018 #57
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2018 #58
riversedge Jan 2018 #59
greyl Jan 2018 #60
Scurrilous Jan 2018 #61
DeminPennswoods Jan 2018 #62

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 09:56 AM

1. you're right bannon

It was treason and you were a part of it. Hope you enjoy your book proceeds in jail.

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Response to woundedkarma (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 12:31 PM

44. A falling out among thieves and cutthroats.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 09:58 AM

2. "He's not only crazy, he's stupid."

As we already knew:

Trump is not spared. Wolff writes that Thomas Barrack Jr, a billionaire who is one of the president’s oldest associates, allegedly told a friend: “He’s not only crazy, he’s stupid.”

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Response to Jim__ (Reply #2)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 12:17 PM

36. Oh, and btw, grass is green.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 09:59 AM

3. This monster

…helped put him in office. He's Trump's Rove. Further, he says the Russian meeting info should have been given to "Brietbart"—a legitimate outlet. Good God. This is just the Devil calling Satan bad.

What the hell is he up to? Just hatred of Jared and Trump Jr.?

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Response to zentrum (Reply #3)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 10:05 AM

8. Well he actually said Beietbart or some other more

legitimate publication to be fair.

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Response to doc03 (Reply #8)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 11:37 AM

28. LOL.

Yes, let's give credit where credit is due.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 10:02 AM

4. So Bannon is against Trump now?

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Response to doc03 (Reply #4)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 11:36 AM

27. He always has been, ever since he was fired.

He feels he lost the competition with Kushner and covered himself by saying how much he was going to work for Trump, now that he was free to do so. He was just setting things up to make his efforts have greater penetrance. This was all part of his plan to get back at Trump. He felt that he was betrayed, after having worked so hard to get Trump elected. He should have realized that in Trump's world only family is trusted. Family will always come first, after only Trump himself. Trump would even throw his family under the bus to save himself.

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Response to colorado_ufo (Reply #27)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 12:37 PM

46. I agree

And Bannon has always been about Bannon anyway. He does what serves him and his agenda, whatever that might be. I don't think he ever had any loyalty to Trump, he just wanted to be a king-maker.

Yes, I think Trump would put himself before any family, even his precious Ivanka. I can picture him becoming so paranoid, that he thinks even his family is conspiring against him.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #46)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 02:28 PM

48. There is only one thing that would keep Ivanka from having tire treads on her

from having been thrown under the bus. I think she hinted at it when she said, concerning Roy Moore, that "there is a special place in hell for child molesters."

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Response to colorado_ufo (Reply #48)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 02:55 PM

51. I wonder if she even realizes

how perverted her father's attention appears. If it is all she has ever known, she might think it is normal or she might just be in denial.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 10:03 AM

5. I love it when they eat their own

I hope this group of cons is fighting each other all the way to Federal prison.

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Response to get the red out (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 03:00 PM

52. Put them all in the same cell block. Livestream it to the public they screwed over

I'm out of swear words to describe them.
They have normalized "fuckers"

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 10:03 AM

6. What will Trump say -

I do not even know who Bannon is

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Response to Laf.La.Dem. (Reply #6)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 01:03 PM

47. No, I don't think he'd deny knowing Bannon entirely...

more along the lines of "Bannon? You mean that volunteer who worked for the campaign for a month or two? Very limited role. Very. He stocked water. I remember him well, always standing around holding water. His first name was Mario... Mario Bannon. "

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Response to Laf.La.Dem. (Reply #6)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 03:22 PM

53. Ooooh imagine Banon's mad face when Trump calls him his coffee boy

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 10:04 AM

7. One possibility that occurred to me

One possibility that occurred to me is that he is getting ahead of breaking news. Somebody close to him was called by Mueller's team, or he was. He is working on deflecting the focus on his backers and his organization, regardless of their part(s) or not.

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Response to concreteblue (Reply #7)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 10:08 AM

10. I was just thinking about whether Mueller ever interviewed him (yet)? nt

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 10:08 AM

9. They're going to crack Don Junior like an egg on national TV.

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Response to mobeau69 (Reply #9)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 10:51 AM

17. I'd pay to see that.. can't wait

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Response to mountain grammy (Reply #17)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 12:02 PM

32. He's an asshole, but he does have a way with words

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Response to mobeau69 (Reply #9)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 12:29 PM

41. He defenitely has a way with words

It's no wonder he's near the top of the white supremecist food chain. Looking forward to the day his liver quits on him.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 10:27 AM

11. Invest in popcorn.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 10:33 AM

12. "They're going to crack Don Junior like an egg on national TV." Not on Fox.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 10:35 AM

13. Yes this was treason

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #13)

Thu Jan 4, 2018, 05:45 AM

63. No it's not treason and I wish people would be more precise with language. The crime is conspiracy.

Treason is a VERY narrowly defined crime. It simply is not the case here. One can be a traitor without committing the crime of treason.

Article III section 3 of The Constitution defines treason as :

"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.
The Congress shall have power to declare the punishment of treason, but no attainder of treason shall work corruption of blood, or forfeiture except during the life of the person attainted

The punishment for treason has been codified in 18 U.S.C. § 2381 states:

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.


We are not at war with Russia. Moreover, Trump and his band of idiots did not take up weapons against the U.S and attack it.
What they did was engage in a conspiracy: the agreement by 2 or more people to commit a crime or illegal act.

Trump and his thugs have committed several crimes as well as conspiracy.
8 U.S.C. § 371 - Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud United States :If two or more persons conspire either to commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

Conspiracy can be brought along with many, many other charges and that is likely what will happen.

The reason I bring this up is every time we accuse Trump of treason (not only is it not legally correct) when it does not happen his moronic supporters will believe Trump must be innocent. Mueller will not charge Trump with Treason.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 10:39 AM

14. It's true. There is no honor

among thieves. Back stabbers all. Delicious.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 10:39 AM

15. As much as I detest Bannon, it was always clear he was the "smart one" n/t

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 10:48 AM

16. Family and crew just

can't keep their mouths shut....Those lips have sunk that ship....

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 11:05 AM

18. Kick

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 11:09 AM

19. what is this shit.

Bannon? why is anyone listening to this fucking Nazi?

having said that i hope he's right. but i would bet everything that he's in it up to his eyeballs. i just don't get what his function is at this point. is he of such ego and damage that he thinks he'll take over when the trumps go down so he can finish the demolition of democracy and replay the holocaust?

Bannon is fringe. I would rather eat lye than buy or read his book and every time i see his name in the news i just want to scream it. He's fringe. unhinged. Sexist, racist, Nazi. Not invested in the democratic process. pond scum.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 11:14 AM

20. He can't fool us by agreeing with us.

Explosive 'no duh' expose, bannon, you dopy nazi, you.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 11:20 AM

21. Fuck Bannon.

Nothing that comes out of his pie hole means jack. He’s as loony as his former boss Donnie the orange shitmonster. Although for entertainment purposes only, this is amusing.

For the purposes of reality, I’ll wait to see what Mueller has to say.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 11:22 AM

22. Steve Bannon does not need to "spill the beans" to us he better let Mueller know what he knows.

Why try to convince us that he is innocent?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 11:23 AM

23. Whadda guy!

Remember the Stephanie Miller segment - "and now it's time for... Republicans Eating Their Own!"?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 11:29 AM

24. So what if it's Bannon saying this...

What are his followers going to do with this information?

It validates everything they've pretended isn't going on.

This is totally bizarre.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 11:35 AM

25. Why didn't Bannon go to the FBI over the treasonous meeting at the time?

He's trying to blame tRump Jr - and deflect blame from tRump...calculated.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 11:35 AM

26. Bannon also hates McConnell and Ryan so if he knows something, their eggs are cracked as well.


Bannon wants to create chaos so he is not particularly honorable here but I agree with him that just hearing the Russians are trying to peddle dirt on your opponent should have caused Don Jr. and Jared to call FBI.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 11:38 AM

29. FWIW

Bannon has not been touched by the Russia investigation while everyone else (Pence included) associated with Trump has been in one way or another. Reportedly, Bannon also advised Trump against firing Comey. Bannon's a scummy human, but that doesn't mean he's stupid or has no powers of observation.

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Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #29)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 12:26 PM

37. This could get nasty, and the real question is who has what power over the deplorables...

Bannon brought Agent Orange the Deplorables, and now he is saying "see, treat me incorrectly, I can remove them too by calling you a traitor". Donald is saying "I can shoot someone on 5th Avenue and the Deplorables would still support me".

The question is who has more power over the Deplorables: Agent Orange or Bannon The Hutt.

This is all speculation, but if I am right, this could get very dirty (and entertaining) quickly. Just wait until Agent Orange does a Category 5 Twitter Hurricane against Bannon. Just wait...

...And Bannon will not take it lying down....


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Response to GetRidOfThem (Reply #37)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 04:11 PM

55. Didn't take long to get nasty

and hilarious. I LOL'd when Craig Melvin read the WH response in full on MSNBC.

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Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #29)

Thu Jan 4, 2018, 10:11 AM

64. I thought there was investigation into co-ordination between breitbart, bircher jones,

and russian intel bot propaganda operatives. Co ordination of messages, releases.

Closest I can get:
https://www.mediamatters.org/blog/2017/03/20/report-fbi-investigating-russian-operatives-using-bots-spread-stories-breitbart-rt-infowars/215770

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 11:42 AM

30. Bannon honestly thinks he can be Trump's

only guy, even to the exclusion of Don Junior. This is a power play. Nothing more, nothing less.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 11:51 AM

31. LOLOLOL!!! It's like The Black Plague battling Cholera.

I'm just going to sit back and enjoy it while Mueller keeps going and going and going.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 12:05 PM

33. The alt-right is getting ready to pull the plus on Trump

They got what they wanted, now they want to build further, and on top of Trump's political corpse.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 12:13 PM

34. They will all be turning on each other before this is through..

 







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Response to vkkv (Reply #34)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 12:31 PM

43. And Seoul has gone and fucked up Pvt. Bone Spurs' wag the dog strategy.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 12:15 PM

35. There's no honor among traitors

Bannon's proof positive--because he was also involved in the subversion!

Question is, is Bannon also under investigation?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 12:28 PM

38. Bannon's motive is as clear as the hair on his face.

It's CYA time. Every Nazi for himself.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 12:28 PM

39. Why is Bannon now exposing this? My guess is he has been

reading the writing on the wall since the firing of Comey, and knows the day of reckoning is fast approaching. Time to protect numero uno while prepping for the aftermath. This is a Nazi that will not easily let go his destructive vision of his perception of what America should be and do. He poses a continuing threat to democracy.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 12:29 PM

40. Fuck this asshole, now he's trying to make a buck off of treason and conspiracy, hacking

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Response to turbinetree (Reply #40)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 02:50 PM

50. It's not Bannon's book. . . nt

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 12:29 PM

42. Bannon is slime. Lying, racist slime. So is 45. I dont trust either of them.

I suppose crooks like to tattle on each other when they are down on their luck, but I put little stock in anything Bannon has to say.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 12:33 PM

45. Payback is a .......

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Response to Raven123 (Reply #45)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 02:31 PM

49. Nailed it.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 03:32 PM

54. Call me paranoid but I dont trust Bannon.

He’s a media manipulator and a ratfucker to the extreme. This smells like a setup of some kind. I hope I’m wrong but I’m not running too far with anything this bastard says.

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Response to BlueTsunami2018 (Reply #54)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 05:07 PM

56. pretty sure none of us trust bannon

for me the simple joy of watching repubs splinter themselves is enough for now

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 05:26 PM

57. Greenwald's comment was beyond predictable:

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 09:25 PM

58. I love right wing infighting

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 10:53 PM

59. Theyre going to crack Don Junior like an egg on national TV. Would love to see this

happen to smarty pants JR!!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 11:25 PM

60. Links to buy Michael Wolff's book:

Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House Kindle Edition
by Michael Wolff (Author)
http://amzn.to/2E2j8pq


Fire and Fury: Inside the Trump White House Hardcover
by Michael Wolff (Author)
http://amzn.to/2CP6ISy

With extraordinary access to the Trump White House, Michael Wolff tells the inside story
of the most controversial presidency of our time

The first nine months of Donald Trump’s term were stormy, outrageous—and absolutely mesmerizing. Now, thanks to his deep access to the West Wing, bestselling author Michael Wolff tells the riveting story of how Trump launched a tenure as volatile and fiery as the man himself.

In this explosive book, Wolff provides a wealth of new details about the chaos in the Oval Office. Among the revelations:
-- What President Trump’s staff really thinks of him
-- What inspired Trump to claim he was wire-tapped by President Obama
-- Why FBI director James Comey was really fired
-- Why chief strategist Steve Bannon and Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner couldn’t be in the same room
-- Who is really directing the Trump administration’s strategy in the wake of Bannon’s firing
-- What the secret to communicating with Trump is
-- What the Trump administration has in common with the movie The Producers

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Jan 4, 2018, 01:38 AM

61. K&R

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Thu Jan 4, 2018, 02:03 AM

62. On MSNBC, various hosts reported

Wolff had unfettered access to the west wing. He evidently set up a table in the hallway so all the people who wanted to talk to him knew where he was. He dropped in offices to chit chat. Reportedly Trump knew about and approved the book project and even talked to Wolff, who previously had written about him.

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