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demmiblue

(36,836 posts)
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 09:43 AM Dec 2017

Minnesotans Dont Think Franken Should Resign; Franken Remains Popular, Especially With Women

Source: Public Policy Polling

A new Public Policy Polling survey of Minnesota voters finds that a majority don’t think Al Franken should resign from the US Senate, and that he remains popular in the state, particularly with women. Key findings from the survey include:

-50% of voters think he should not resign, to only 42% who think he should go through with his planned resignation. There is little appetite from Democratic voters at the state level for Franken to go, with 71% opposing his departure. A majority of independents- 52%- as well think he should not resign, with just 41% favoring his exit.

-Franken remains well above average in popularity for a Senator, with 53% of voters approving of the job he’s doing to 42% who disapprove. PPP rarely finds Senators with majority approval in their home states. Franken’s continued popularity is being driven especially by women. 57% of them like the job he’s doing to 37% who don’t. By contrast Donald Trump stands at 40/58 with women in the state.

-Minnesotans don’t like how the process with Franken’s resignation has played out. 60% think the Senate Ethics Committee should have completed its investigation (including 79% of Democrats and 61% of independents) before any decision was made about Franken’s future, while only 35% think he should resign immediately. Beyond that 76% of Minnesota voters think their voices should have been more important in determining whether Franken stayed in the Senate or not, to only 12% who think that should have been determined more by his fellow Senators in Washington.

Read more: https://www.publicpolicypolling.com/polls/minnesotans-dont-think-franken-resign-franken-remains-popular-especially-women/

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Minnesotans Dont Think Franken Should Resign; Franken Remains Popular, Especially With Women (Original Post) demmiblue Dec 2017 OP
I still hope this makes a difference janterry Dec 2017 #1
The only person who can make a difference now is the Lt. Gov dragonlady Dec 2017 #34
Too late but feel free to call or write Gilly and she can tell you about her Presidential plans Bengus81 Dec 2017 #2
Yup. I'm with you. zentrum Dec 2017 #8
You make a good point pandr32 Dec 2017 #9
Franken was too eloquent a voice for Republican tastes DFW Dec 2017 #18
Agreed pandr32 Dec 2017 #20
One day, someone of rational thought may even offer objective evidence to support the premise LanternWaste Dec 2017 #24
i think it is a "Caesar's wife" type of thing. We Dems think we have to be "above reproach" CTyankee Dec 2017 #36
I will donate to any progressive who runs against this person lark Dec 2017 #19
runs against who? Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #27
Nope, missed by a mile. lark Dec 2017 #29
Hold your nose? Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #30
Yes, you are. lark Dec 2017 #31
If I were allowed to discuss what "hold your nose" and similar comments Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #32
Gillibrand is a Senator, she doesn't represent a "district", she represents a state. George II Dec 2017 #33
Sorry about that. lark Dec 2017 #39
I hope frankin "baste's" the center D's for the next few years... mentalslavery Dec 2017 #23
I thought more than 20 D senators called on Franken to resign mcar Dec 2017 #35
Still heartbroken over this! PragmaticDem Dec 2017 #3
I agree with Minnesotan democrats. sinkingfeeling Dec 2017 #4
Mr Franken...please don't resign. We need you in the Senate Rene Dec 2017 #5
I really wish Franken would/could change his mind! ananda Dec 2017 #6
The idea that a Senator like Franken can simply be replaced by some loyal hardworking enough Dec 2017 #7
It's terrible. zentrum Dec 2017 #10
The Cookie Cutter Theory. Demit Dec 2017 #11
Senator Gillibrand should resign for putting her hands on this young male's butt IronLionZion Dec 2017 #12
+1 dalton99a Dec 2017 #15
She is an opportunist. tavernier Dec 2017 #17
She's a political back stabber. LakeArenal Dec 2017 #22
So it would appear we have learned? Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #28
Eliot quit banging your head against the wall. LakeArenal Dec 2017 #41
Of course! druidity33 Dec 2017 #44
I keep hearing that unsupported allegation. LanternWaste Dec 2017 #25
Didn't Trump rockfordfile Dec 2017 #38
She was his senator, so was Hillary and Schumer. That's what politicians do IronLionZion Dec 2017 #40
Wouldn't be surprised Bradical79 Dec 2017 #43
I saw a recent cartoon of all the sexual harassers nuxvomica Dec 2017 #13
I don't think he should, either. Iggo Dec 2017 #14
This Minnesotan thinks Al shouldn't resign! geardaddy Dec 2017 #16
Minnesota Democrat here MrsMatt Dec 2017 #21
If that is indeed the case and Franken is repentant .. he should seek office again Le Gaucher Dec 2017 #26
Grasping At Straws SoCalMusicLover Dec 2017 #37
He should run for Senate again Bradical79 Dec 2017 #42
YES Skittles Dec 2017 #45
Governor Franken. roamer65 Dec 2017 #46

dragonlady

(3,577 posts)
34. The only person who can make a difference now is the Lt. Gov
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 02:40 PM
Dec 2017

If she would go to Franken and urge him to reconsider because of constituent opinion, at least until the result of an ethics investigation is known, and make her feelings public so Minnesotans would flood his email and phone with pleas to stay . . . The chances of that happening are rather small.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
2. Too late but feel free to call or write Gilly and she can tell you about her Presidential plans
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 09:53 AM
Dec 2017

Why would Franken want to work with the current party members that threw him under the bus? Gosh...wonder if they've scratched their heads wondering WHY no others have come forward since his resignation announcement claiming he "groped" them too?? Why GASP.....could this just have been a Republican HIT JOB with YOU and other Dems doing the dirty work for them Gilly?? Good luck on your 2020 Presidential announcement.


Franken "groping" his last accuser..........

pandr32

(11,574 posts)
9. You make a good point
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 11:04 AM
Dec 2017

The accusers stopped coming since Franken resigned, and the ones that did come were weak sauce at best even with an overactive imagination. It does seem to have been a hit job.
I wonder if the Democrats who asked him to resign considered that by doing as the Republicans wanted, perhaps in order to say: "no tolerance for sexual misconduct of any kind--now your turn" they have made themselves sitting ducks. With such a low bar set for the type of accusations needed to force a resignation, thanks to the Franken precedent the Republicans can set-up any Democrat now.

DFW

(54,330 posts)
18. Franken was too eloquent a voice for Republican tastes
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 11:38 AM
Dec 2017

Their funding for his "accusers" will have dried up, their work having been done. On to the next target.

That so many Democrats, including ones I otherwise admired and have actively supported, either fell for it, or at least didn't discount the possibility that they were being played, is something that disturbs me greatly.

pandr32

(11,574 posts)
20. Agreed
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 11:49 AM
Dec 2017

And we have to live with the precedent set by forcing out one of our best so quickly and on such shady accusations in order to show Republicans we have zero tolerance and will even oust our own.

Who will be next?

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
24. One day, someone of rational thought may even offer objective evidence to support the premise
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 12:45 PM
Dec 2017

"Their funding for his "accusers" will have dried up..."

One day, someone of rational thought may even offer objective evidence to support the premise. Until then though, it's merely one set of absurd allegations versus another.

Little more than simplistic human nature to do as much, I'd guess.

CTyankee

(63,900 posts)
36. i think it is a "Caesar's wife" type of thing. We Dems think we have to be "above reproach"
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 02:50 PM
Dec 2017

to be the good alternative to the monstrous GOP we have now. Now we see where this reasoning has led.

oK, that's been played out...on to the next "incident" in our Dem leaders' lives...

lark

(23,083 posts)
19. I will donate to any progressive who runs against this person
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 11:45 AM
Dec 2017

who cares nothing for the truth, only her own political future. None of the however many dems who turned their backs on truth and signed that statement will get a dime of my money, nor any letters, or GOTV efforts.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
27. runs against who?
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 12:55 PM
Dec 2017

Oh, I think I see.

So your conclusion is even if it means MORE republicans in power, by golly that is what you will go for?

What if NO progressive runs that you agree with and it is any democrat against any republican?

lark

(23,083 posts)
29. Nope, missed by a mile.
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 02:16 PM
Dec 2017

1 - I don't live in her district so can't vote for or against her. If I lived in her district and she were the Dem candidate, I'd hold my nose and vote for her, so you are totally wrong in your instant assessment.
2 - I would only donate to a progressive (I said that before, did you not read?)
3 - I'm not rich and only donate to people out of my area that I really support, can't afford to send $$ to all districts.
4- I have never in my life voted repug or even failed to vote for the democratic candidate so your snarky insinuation is mean and wrong and you owe me an apology.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
30. Hold your nose?
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 02:17 PM
Dec 2017

I would have hoped we would have retired that by now, guess some of us refuse to learn from our mistakes.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
32. If I were allowed to discuss what "hold your nose" and similar comments
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 02:24 PM
Dec 2017

did to us last year, I would, but I cant.

Thus, as predicted, it is happening AGAIN

lark

(23,083 posts)
39. Sorry about that.
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 04:12 PM
Dec 2017

You are correct. I also don't live in NY so she's still not my rep. and I can't vote for her.

 

mentalslavery

(463 posts)
23. I hope frankin "baste's" the center D's for the next few years...
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 12:35 PM
Dec 2017

then picks up a presidential bid...the field is primed for a frankin run.....He's gonna find a platform and drop some science and knowledge in a zone where he is a little more free. This all really started back in his air america days in which he could absolutely destroy people over the airwaves.

ananda

(28,856 posts)
6. I really wish Franken would/could change his mind!
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 10:23 AM
Dec 2017

He has suffered a huge injustice.. and the Dems were complicit
in a very bad way!!!!

enough

(13,255 posts)
7. The idea that a Senator like Franken can simply be replaced by some loyal hardworking
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 10:50 AM
Dec 2017

Democrat and it won't make any difference is absurd. We are losing one of our strongest members.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
10. It's terrible.
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 11:05 AM
Dec 2017

Really mad at Gillibrand and hope Franken will run as an Independent and then caucus with the Democrats. We need him too much to let this be the final end.

Maybe after a term of "good behavior", the Democrats will let him back in and he can have a "D" after his name again.

Will write and encourage him to do all this.

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
11. The Cookie Cutter Theory.
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 11:09 AM
Dec 2017

Any Democratic senator is as good and as effective as any other Democratic senator, dontcha know.

Tina Smith might be a terrific person, but she's never been a legislator. She'll be a freshman senator. She has to learn all the arcane rules of the Senate, while having to begin campaigning for the special election in November 2018 almost immediately—then, soon after that, she has to begin campaigning for the regular election in 2020.

As a freshman senator, she'll vote the way the leadership wants her to vote and, most importantly I think, won't take up any of the air in the room that whoever is gearing up to run for prez will need for herself.

IronLionZion

(45,410 posts)
12. Senator Gillibrand should resign for putting her hands on this young male's butt
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 11:09 AM
Dec 2017

she makes me feel uncomfortable.

tavernier

(12,375 posts)
17. She is an opportunist.
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 11:32 AM
Dec 2017

Sometimes that pays off, sometimes not. I guess we will see which way it falls for her.

LakeArenal

(28,813 posts)
22. She's a political back stabber.
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 12:29 PM
Dec 2017

There are paaaaalenty of those already.

Suddenly Bill is a target as well as both Clintons supporting her in her bid. Can't be associated with them anymore.

With all the great candidates out there that listen to the voice of the people, we don't have to spend anytime or energy or donations on folks we think stabbed us in the back.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
28. So it would appear we have learned?
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 12:57 PM
Dec 2017

sigh


I dont know where to start.

Oh, and just so you know, NOBODY on this board came to Al's defense FASTER or more FREQUENT than me, go ahead and do a search.

NOBODY here supports him more than I do, many do as much I am sure, but nobody more.

But FRANKEN himself would say no matter what you do, VOTE for ANY Democrat in November.

LakeArenal

(28,813 posts)
41. Eliot quit banging your head against the wall.
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 05:51 PM
Dec 2017

Nobody is saying we won’t back a Democrat in a GE.

That is years away. Now I’m supporting with my time and energy and donations, candidates that don’t agree to stab fellow Dems in the back.

That list of Senators made a calculated political decision that turned out offending a whole bunch of us.

Until they admit their error then I have nothing for them.

You make it sound like actively supporting other Democratic candidates instead of ones you don’t agree with is some kind of bullheadedness.

Nose held or otherwise we will be voting for Democrats. It’s better to have a tarnished friend than a shiny enemy. But I don’t have to be part of any polishing. They can do that by their actions.

If Gilli is so great, have her step up and admit her plan has gone dreadfully awry.

And yes, I do know you were right there for Al from day one. I have great respect for you Eliot.

druidity33

(6,445 posts)
44. Of course!
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 07:34 PM
Dec 2017

And if I have to hold my nose to do it, so be it!

Actually i only said that to get your goat. (And where does that saying come from? I don't know)



 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
25. I keep hearing that unsupported allegation.
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 12:49 PM
Dec 2017

I keep hearing that unsupported allegation.

But no doubt, supplying objective evidence to support it is simply "playing into their hands" or some other trendy-though-irrelevant bumper-sticker popular with the kids who ironically call themselves skeptics.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
43. Wouldn't be surprised
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 06:01 PM
Dec 2017

He was a New York millionaire who had supported Democrats for awhile. Seems like asking for donations would be standard practice.

nuxvomica

(12,419 posts)
13. I saw a recent cartoon of all the sexual harassers
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 11:20 AM
Dec 2017

It had the caption: "Men: Aren't They Swell". Noticeably absent was Sen. Franken. The zeitgeist is not swallowing this.

MrsMatt

(1,660 posts)
21. Minnesota Democrat here
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 11:53 AM
Dec 2017

and I'm LIVID about Senator Franken's railroading by members of his own caucus.

I'll never forgive or forget those 34 senators who publicly called for his resignation.

 

Le Gaucher

(1,547 posts)
26. If that is indeed the case and Franken is repentant .. he should seek office again
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 12:49 PM
Dec 2017

If he gets reelected .. he deserves it.

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
37. Grasping At Straws
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 03:20 PM
Dec 2017

Only chance we ever see Mr. Franken in Government again, is if he were to run in the Special Election as an Independent.

Unfortunately, I don't see him doing that.

Skittles

(153,138 posts)
45. YES
Thu Dec 28, 2017, 07:59 PM
Dec 2017

because *MOST* women are smart enough to know the difference between sexual harassment and a POLITICAL HIT JOB

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