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Sun Dec 10, 2017, 10:57 AM

 

One Answer From A GOP Senator Shows Democrats Have Republicans Pinned In A Sexual Misconduct Trap

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Source: CNN

CNN's Jake Tapper asked Sen. Richard Shelby (R-AL) if Democrats had a higher standard for sexual misconduct than Republicans. Shelby's answer revealed that Republicans are trapped because of Trump's Roy Moore endorsement.

Shelby said, ďYou will see all this play out. I believe whether you have a Republican, Democrat, independent, whatever you are, that you would not put up with the conduct, the bad conduct, from a Democrat or Republican. That is part of what will happen in the future. The Senateís going to have to weigh, if Roy Moore wins, his fitness to serve in the United States Senate.Ē

Because Democrats took a painful stand on Al Franken, a man that they personally liked, politically, Republicans now have all sorts of problems. Republicans canít claim that that they have a high standard for opposing sexual misconduct when they supported Trump after the Access Hollywood tape where he bragged about sexually assaulted. The party stuck by Trump after seventeen women came forward to accuse him of sexual assault.

Trumpís endorsement of Roy Moore has means that the Republican Pary is the party of pedophiles. The GOPís lack of morality and win at all cost attitude is coming back to haunt them. Democrats have Republicans pinned down.




Read more: http://www.politicususa.com/2017/12/10/answer-gop-senators-shows-democrats-republicans-pinned-sexual-misconduct-trap.html



Roy Mooreís fate will be decided on Tuesday, but the looming dark cloud over the party are those 17 allegations against Trump. If Democrats win back the House or Senate, a congressional investigation of those allegations is coming.

If Republicans think they have problems due to Roy Moore, itís about to get a whole lot worse.

Unlike Republicans, Democrats donít turn a blind eye to sexual misconduct, and their principles are going to help them win elections in the years to come.

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Reply One Answer From A GOP Senator Shows Democrats Have Republicans Pinned In A Sexual Misconduct Trap (Original post)
Vidal Dec 2017 OP
rainin Dec 2017 #1
ananda Dec 2017 #12
Girard442 Dec 2017 #2
janterry Dec 2017 #4
janterry Dec 2017 #3
jrthin Dec 2017 #9
7962 Dec 2017 #11
ProudMNDemocrat Dec 2017 #5
mn9driver Dec 2017 #6
tonyt53 Dec 2017 #13
getting old in mke Dec 2017 #18
tomg Dec 2017 #22
Bengus81 Dec 2017 #25
LiberalArkie Dec 2017 #26
Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2017 #7
sarge43 Dec 2017 #8
mountain grammy Dec 2017 #10
rainin Dec 2017 #15
Peaceful Protester Dec 2017 #14
SWBTATTReg Dec 2017 #16
dlk Dec 2017 #17
lark Dec 2017 #19
Thor_MN Dec 2017 #20
usaf-vet Dec 2017 #21
eppur_se_muova Dec 2017 #23
displacedtexan Dec 2017 #24
bucolic_frolic Dec 2017 #27
agincourt Dec 2017 #28
DonViejo Dec 2017 #29

Response to Vidal (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:06 AM

1. I guess we're stuck with how democrats played this.

But, I'm not impressed by the "discomfort of a Republican". They should have been uncomfortable when Trump accusers stepped forward, they got over it. They'll get over this. They know how this is played. Just weather the storm, and keep satisfying your donors and you'll be fine.

Remember, they don't work for us. That's an illusion.

Remember how we saw the twisted expression of Sean Spicer when he came out day after day and lied? He knew who he worked for. So he has to be uncomfortable for a while -- the public has a short attention span. They know they just have to get through it.

Meanwhile, we have just cut off our nose to spite our face. We hurt ourselves. We haven't hurt them. Time will tell.

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Response to rainin (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:26 AM

12. I agree.

The Dems were SO wrong on this one!

I don't know if we'll ever recover, honestly.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:08 AM

2. Yeah *this* will be the straw that broke the camel's back.



Grow up people. The camel died a long time ago, crushed under a thousand boulders, and was then ground up into burgers and sold. You don't shame sociopaths. You put cuffs on them and drag them into a cell.

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Response to Girard442 (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:09 AM

4. You sure put that a lot better than I

 

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:08 AM

3. hasn't worked yet

 

I get the calculation. And sure, I hope it works out and all. But I'm in my 50's and I have yet to see this work well for us.

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Response to janterry (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:20 AM

9. It hasn't. It won't. Remember the when they go low, we go high mantra,

well the voters said, "Bye, we're headed low."

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Response to janterry (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:25 AM

11. People have a short memory when it comes to politics

 

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:09 AM

5. Shelby sees the writing on the wall........that the day of .....

Reckoning is upon the Republican Party.

The issue of sexual harrasment and assault is not going to go away. The cloud over the Republican Party will be ever present everytime Mitch McConnell goes to the microphone and asked about Roy Moore and why he is still in the Senate and Donald Trump still president.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:12 AM

6. Moore will win. He will be seated.

There will be no investigation. Democrats will make angry speeches. They will be ignored. Franken will still resign. Minnesota will have a new Republican Senator in 2019.

With leadership like this, what could possibly go wrong?

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Response to mn9driver (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:29 AM

13. Full agreement, except for the part about a Republican Senator from MN in 2019. The gov gets it.

 

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Response to tonyt53 (Reply #13)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:37 AM

18. The governor gets to name the interim senator, but that ends with the 2018 special election.

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Response to mn9driver (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:46 AM

22. I don't know about the seating.

Actually, the Republican establishment hates Moore. Here, he ( probably and unfortunately) gets the win, the Republicans have a reason to kick him out of the Senate, after which they get two things: they get to take the moral high ground ( yeah, right) because they refuse to seat him ( balancing out the 'moral high ground' of the Franken resignation - I can't believe I am writing that) and they have a Senator from Alabama who is more palatable to them. Actually, they could come out a little ahead ( insofar as they let the process play out).

I wonder if we will see the democratic senators with Graham for another photo op when that happens.

God, I hope Jones wins.

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Response to mn9driver (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 12:16 PM

25. You got it 100% right......

Big flap by this group just to LOSE a Senate seat. The CONS no doubt are already working overtime on that seat and who in their party will have it. Bring in the Koch machine money and spend $20-50 million on it smearing any Dem running that they are just a Franken "groper" clone and it will be over before it starts.

Stupid IS as stupid DOES..........

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Response to mn9driver (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 12:24 PM

26. The corporate Democrats and Republicans always win.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:17 AM

7. GOPPPPPPP: Grand Old Party of Pathological Perjured Polluted Pedophiles, Pee-lovers, and Predators


Also pestilent, perfidious, poisonous, putrid and plundering.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:19 AM

8. The Republican party is a pack of reavers. Plunder is all they want.

Its members do not care about any problems Moore may cause. If they did, they wouldn't have put up that piece of garbage in the first place. The same goes for Trump

The senate Democrats threw away one of their fiercest most effective fighters, for what? To embarrass the Republicans? Please, thugs can't be embarrassed; they can only be stopped.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:22 AM

10. See, wait, heres the thing

I knew this without crucifying an innocent man.

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Response to mountain grammy (Reply #10)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:30 AM

15. Me, too!

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:29 AM

14. As long as Trump is at the helm, the republican party simply does not care.

The Mueller Investigation Is in Mortal Danger

"When Mueller was appointed, legal scholars debated whether Trump had the technical authority to fire him, but even the majority who believed he did assumed such a power existed only in theory".

"In August, members of both parties began drawing up legislation to prevent Trump from sacking Mueller".

"In fact, the risk has swelled. Trump has publicly declared any investigation into his finances would constitute a red line, and that he reserves the option to fire Mueller if he investigates them".

"Earlier this month, it was reported that Mueller has subpoenaed records at Deutsche Bank, an institution favored both by Trump and the Russian spy network".

"It is almost a maxim of the Trump era that the bounds of the unthinkable continuously shrink. The capitulation to Moore was a dry run for the coming assault on the rule of law".

Read More: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/12/the-mueller-investigation-is-in-mortal-danger.html

Note: Do not underestimate Trump and the current incarnation of the republican party.
Note: They have said that they are at war with any one that dares stand in their way.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:32 AM

16. Let's be fair, sexual assault occurs everywhere, and impacts everyone, regardless of party

affiliation. It's how the assault is handled afterwards is where the big problem is. This is where I can't even stand to watch tRUMP on TV or look at his hands knowing what's he's done w/ them. Disgusting. I don't even see how anyone can shake his hand when they meet him (tRUMP)...Absolutely gross.

This is where the republicans and Moore are going to find it a lot more difficult to have any kind of respect or gain any traction on any issues should they fail to do what's right, especially after the crap w/ tRUMP being overlooked.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:34 AM

17. The Difference is That Too Many Republicans Really Don't Care-They Would Rather Win

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:38 AM

19. Lipstick on a pig.

1 - don't believe it for 1 second. Nothing has been done about Russia hacking our vote and nothing will be because most repugs are comoplicit. how do we win if Russia hacks the vote for repugs?
- There were a number of districts in MI, WI where the total number of votes for repuglicans exceeded the number of voters.
- IN FL and PA, the no votes for president in Democratic districts were really high, way outside the norm.

Nothing was done about torture by dems when they had a majority for a short while, I would be amazed if they actually go after drumpf or Moore for sex crimes. I hope you are right, but again, don't believe it after seeing Dems be so spineless against someone who's not part of them.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:40 AM

20. "If Democrats win back the House or Senate..."

 

"If Democrats win back the House or Senate, a congressional investigation of those allegations is coming. "

A congressional investigation of Trump is coming if we win regardless of Franken being in the senate or not. Trump will not be removed from office because of sexual misconduct. If he is removed from office it will be because of money laundering or collusion with Russia.

Everyone already knows that Trump is a sexual predator, and conservatives simply don't care. Same holds true for Roy Moore. That dog won't hunt. Period. Sexual misconduct is terrible, but it will not remove someone from office unless they voluntarily resign.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:44 AM

21. With republicans it is always party and agenda first.

To hope this is the thing that will make them responsible is a pipe dream.
They have an agenda. The short version transfer ALL the wealth in this country to a handful billionaires.

The republican party will let Moore stay long enough to be useful (maybe just one vote on a tax bill).
Then and only then will they "put country first".

Trump will only be allowed to stay for as long as they need him.
They will only jettison him when they no longer need him.

There is a road map of what they are doing. Look to Russia and Putin. Since Putin took complete controlled of Russia he has transferred all of the wealth of the country to a handful of loyal oligarchs.

These are the folks that Trump needs to service his debt. And keep his house of cards afloat.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:46 AM

23. If Dems went forward with hearings Franken called for, this would be a more convincing argument.

As it is, the Democrats only look like they are overreacting. Repugs will just say "we don't overreact like Dems", and that will be the end of it.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 12:07 PM

24. The party is playing the long game.

The party doesn't need to "earn" my vote. It's a given. However, millennials make up a voting block bigger than my baby boomer block; hence, the long game. I'm pretty sure that every party decision is being based on the youth vote data. I just hope that Obama and other popular Dems can motivate the little fuckers to vote.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 12:30 PM

27. GOP are a callous lot that has put themselves on display

Not only Trump and Roy Moore

But also Newtown & Food Stamps

They are not protecting children of all things human, in their thirst for political power

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 12:35 PM

28. Yeah sure

trapped for years in Washington writing more terrible laws and policies. Wish an opposition party to the republicans could get pinned too.

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Response to Vidal (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 12:46 PM

29. Locking....

This is not from CNN, but rather, Politicusa and that source is not considered a reputable mainstream news site for LBN purposes. This is also opinion and analysis. Please post this in the General Discussions Forum

From the SOP of the LBN Forum (emphasis added)

Post the latest news from reputable mainstream news websites and blogs. Important news of national interest only. No analysis or opinion pieces. No duplicates. News stories must have been published within the last 12 hours. Use the published title of the story as the title of the discussion thread.


Source: Eg. Washington Post, Associated Press, etc. (use reputable mainstream sources only).

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