US undersea rescue module arriving to sub area in Argentina

[Judi Lynn]

Source: Associated Press


Updated 1:49 pm, Monday, November 27, 2017

BUENOS AIRES, Argentina (AP) — Argentina says a U.S. undersea rescue module is arriving to an area in the South Atlantic where an Argentine submarine went missing 12 days ago with 44 crew members on board.

Navy spokesman Enrique Balbi said Monday that a Norwegian ship carrying the U.S. Navy's underwater remotely operated vehicle and its pressurized rescue module, would arrive to the search zone later in the day.

The navy says an explosion occurred near the time and place where the ARA San Juan sub went missing on Nov. 15.

Experts say the crew only had enough oxygen to last up to 10 days if the sub remained intact but submerged.



Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/world/article/US-undersea-rescue-module-arriving-to-sub-area-in-12386603.php

[marble falls]

1. Stranger things have happened, but I am so afraid we're looking for a tomb and the best ..

we will get from this is an explanation of what caused the event.

[sandensea]

2. Macri, if you can believe, had the widows' bank accounts frozen

apparently in retaliation for their criticism of the way they were led to believe the sailors were still alive - when they clearly knew they weren't (or at the very least, had no indication).

Thank you for this update, Judi.

[Judi Lynn]

3. That is barbaric. Impossibly mean-spirited and cruel. Shocking. How dare he.

How on earth will he ever justify his evil act against these loved ones of his country's lost mariners?

The money they and their surviving family members need for daily survival should be 100% out of bounds for him, wouldn't one think?

He defies all standards of decency. Like Trump, he takes their cries of desperation as a personal attack upon his precious self and wants to "counterpunch" them.

Thank you for this information.

[Igel]

6. A long time ago I had a friend who was widowed.

She'd married at 17, her husband was something like 22 or 23 at the time. He suffered from a genetic disorder.

When she was barely 19 her husband died. She was bedside at his passing, and the nurses told her that she should stop fussing, go to the ATM, and immediately withdraw every dime she could. Then go to the next ATM and if she could withdraw money from there. And repeat in the morning.

Because as soon as the doctor filed the death notice the accounts, all in her husband's name, would be frozen. If she didn't have a will, they'd be frozen until a judge released some funds for her or until probate was concluded.

It's partly to protect creditors and people who have access to it. In most cases, it's simple to pry enough money loose. But in the case of a government pension versus government salary, I have no idea how it works even in the US.


A number of posts from/in Argentina indicate things are about the same. The problem is the press reports that talk about the "gobierno" doing the freezing, which is taken immediately to be Macri. (I'd point out that the government in Argentina does a lot of things--inspections, policing, customs, taxes, etc., etc., and I assume that it's not the case that many 10s of thousands of people stare listlessly at powered-down computers while super-Macri does everything himself.)

I still like Hanlon's razor.

[sandensea]

9. It seems shocking to anyone in the U.S. - although less so for those of us who're familiar w/ Macri

When the widow who first reported this issue, Itatí Leguizamón, did so on Mirtha Legrand's talk show (Argentina's longest-running and most popular), Macri's congressional attack dog, Elisa Carrió, wasn't surprised in the least - as if she knew.

"Must be routine; I'll let the minister know." (referring to Defense Minister Oscar Aguad)

When she realized she had stepped in it, basically revealing that the Defense Miniser had blocked - and could quickly unblock - the widows' accounts, Carrió went into one of her famed shit-throwing backtracks (pardon my French).

"Well, actually the minister had nothing to do with this. This must have been the work of hackers working for the opposition to create problems for the government. I'll take care of it."

Basically, they retaliated against the widows for criticizing Aguad (as Macri has a long history of doing, going back to his days as mayor); and are now on full damage control mode.

Thanks as always for keeping up with everything, Judi.

[Denzil_DC]

4. That's Trump-like in its spite.

Unbelievable.

[sandensea]

11. Stands to reason.

They are good buddies.

[groundloop]

5. Got a link for that? I haven't been able to find it so far.

[sandensea]

8. Sure. Take your pick.

They're in Spanish; but you can use the translate page link to read them in English (albeit an imperfect one).

https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS659US659&q=submarino+%2B+cuentas+bancarias&spell=1&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj1nZX_tuDXAhUEKWMKHXWRCLwQvwUIIygA&biw=1199&bih=899

[murielm99]

7. I was widowed at twenty-seven.

My husband had a will and we owned our home in joint tenancy. However, he had a rapacious ex-wife.

I called our lawyer the morning of his death. He told me to cancel our joint checking account and take all the money. He said half of it would be frozen if I did not do that. I complied immediately.

His ex still took me to court and tried to steal everything we had built together. She lost.

[sandensea]

10. You're very brave to share that, Muriel. And above all to have dealt with it so decisively.

This particular case is slightly similar to yours in that seems to do with another type of vindictiveness: political.

The widows and other family members of the crew have by and large been very critical of the way the Macri regime misled them as long as they could as to the likelihood of rescue. And Macri has a long history, going back to his days as mayor, of using intelligence services to retaliate against opponents - even relatives that rub him the wrong way (he was in fact indicted for it, though the courts quietly dropped the case when he became president).

In other words, just like Cheeto and his gang - if they could.

That said, Happy Holidays - and all the Best to you and yours!

[murielm99]

12. Thank you.

All that was a long time ago. But when I saw this post, it sort of brought me back to that time.

I feel for these women. It is bad enough to lose their husbands in such a brutal manner.