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canetoad

(17,149 posts)
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 03:46 PM Oct 2017

British newspaper got anonymous call 25 minutes before JFK assassination

Source: The Age

October 28 2017 - 4:25AM

Twenty-five minutes before John F. Kennedy was assassinated, a British newspaper received an anonymous tip about "some big news" in the United States, according to the trove of more than 2,800 documents released on Friday by the US National Archives.

The mystery call was made to a senior reporter at the Cambridge News, a paper that serves the East Anglia area of eastern England, on November 22, 1963, at 6.05pm, local time. Kennedy was shot shortly afterward, as he rode in a presidential motorcade in Dallas, Texas, at 12.30pm, local time. Dallas is six hours behind Britain.

"The caller said only that the Cambridge News reporter should call the American Embassy in London for some big news and then hung up," the memo from the CIA's James Angleton to FBI director J. Edgar Hoover said.

The revelation, one of many that emerged from the planned release of the Kennedy assassination documents - so far, there's no smoking guns - adds to the raft of conspiracy theories surrounding his death. In fact, the memo was first released in July, but went unreported until the cache of files was released Thursday.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/world/british-newspaper-got-anonymous-call-25-minutes-before-jfk-assassination-20171027-gza27f.html

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British newspaper got anonymous call 25 minutes before JFK assassination (Original Post) canetoad Oct 2017 OP
It seems to prove many people were involved Angry Dragon Oct 2017 #1
I cant think of ANY reason for Lee to do this...none. Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #2
I have never felt Lee was the shooter, yet the lone shooter Angry Dragon Oct 2017 #3
The shooting of Lee by Ruby is all the proof any intelligent person needs. Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #4
Ruby was a nut with a short fuse and a violent temper Spider Jerusalem Oct 2017 #19
Lee Harvey Oswald was probably eating lunch in the 1st floor lunchroom when JFK was shot red dog 1 Oct 2017 #7
Man i've bluestarone Oct 2017 #13
Probably CIA. Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #14
Yeah,it was Lee Harvey on his cell phone giving them a heads up........... Bengus81 Oct 2017 #5
Yes oswaldactedalone Oct 2017 #6
The link I read says Lee's wife said he really hated Connally, but if so Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #15
Kick red dog 1 Oct 2017 #8
Not only that, the State department paid for his trip home. Boomerproud Oct 2017 #10
I didn't know that. red dog 1 Oct 2017 #11
The Brits always seem to be ahead of the game LiberalLovinLug Oct 2017 #9
So what? Orangepeel Oct 2017 #12
Just More Grist RobinA Oct 2017 #16
And, is there any evidence that the call actually took place? yardwork Oct 2017 #18
Dont know. Although I guess that if someone were going to fabricate a call... Orangepeel Oct 2017 #21
I suspect ..... Shoonra Oct 2017 #17
Am I ever sick of this. Scruffy1 Oct 2017 #20

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
4. The shooting of Lee by Ruby is all the proof any intelligent person needs.
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 04:01 PM
Oct 2017

Once you look at Ruby, his history and so on, there is NO reason on EARTH he risks his life to shoot Lee because he loved JFK that much.

NO chance, none.

I dont know if Lee was involved or not, but I am certain and always have been it was a conspiracy.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
19. Ruby was a nut with a short fuse and a violent temper
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 09:18 AM
Oct 2017

no sane conspiracy would employ Ruby in any capacity. And when you look at the timing involved, it's absolutely impossible for Ruby's shooting Oswald to have been premeditated and planned as part of a conspiracy. They were moving Oswald to the county jail, but they were running late because Oswald wanted a clean shirt because he was going to be on TV. That held up the transfer. Ruby went to the Western Union office to wire money to a former employee who needed a loan; that's the only reason he was in the area at the time, he saw the crowd around the police station, went over, ducked in through the garage. If Oswald had been moved on time Ruby wouldn't have been there.

red dog 1

(27,792 posts)
7. Lee Harvey Oswald was probably eating lunch in the 1st floor lunchroom when JFK was shot
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 04:23 PM
Oct 2017

One of the best books on the JFK murder is:
"The Assassinations: Dallas and Beyond..A Guide to Cover-Ups & Investigations"
Edited by Peter Dale Scott

bluestarone

(16,900 posts)
13. Man i've
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 06:41 PM
Oct 2017

felt this way all the time agree 100% heard one time Kennedy wanted to stop the war in Nam, and CIA DID NOT and the CIA were heavily involved in his death no proof but this is what i actually believe.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
5. Yeah,it was Lee Harvey on his cell phone giving them a heads up...........
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 04:17 PM
Oct 2017

Honestly,do people REALLY think he engineered that MURDER and was acting all by himself?? And CNN is playing this released info as no big deal??

BS,just this tidbit blows the Warren Commission report all to hell.....

oswaldactedalone

(3,490 posts)
6. Yes
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 04:22 PM
Oct 2017

He was trying to assassinate Connally and hit the wrong guy. He had a big time grudge against Connally, none with Kennedy.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
15. The link I read says Lee's wife said he really hated Connally, but if so
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 06:48 PM
Oct 2017

you would think there would have been many other easier opportunities to shoot him, Connally, that is.

What makes no sense about this is why did Jack Ruby, someone who would have NEVER risked his own life just for revenge for JFK, do what he did?

The Ruby part of the story cements it for me, conspiracy.

red dog 1

(27,792 posts)
8. Kick
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 04:32 PM
Oct 2017

One thing no one ever talks about is how Oswald came back to the USA after living in Russia, and was not "de-briefed" by the FBI, CIA or any other government intelligence agency.

He was supposedly met at the airport solely by some ultra-right-wing "White Russians"
(according to Peter Dale Scott and other JFK assassination researchers)

Orangepeel

(13,933 posts)
12. So what?
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 06:25 PM
Oct 2017

I’m not well versed on all the theories, but this doesn’t seem like anything to me. Why would this call have anything to do with the assassination? An unidentifiable person called a newspaper somewhere in England and told them to call the Embassy in London. The only thing remotely related to Dallas or Kennedy were the words “American” and “news”

The FBI, Cuba, CIA, Russians, GHW Bush or whomever— why would any of the call a random newspaper and tell them to call people who probably heard about the assassination on television?

I don’t get it.

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
16. Just More Grist
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 08:36 PM
Oct 2017

for the conspiracy mill. Ya know how many times this probably happens in a week? Anyway, if the President of the US were shot, you'd have to call the embassy to find out? I know it was 1963, but network news had been invented by then.

Orangepeel

(13,933 posts)
21. Dont know. Although I guess that if someone were going to fabricate a call...
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 10:16 AM
Oct 2017

They’d fabricate a more relevant one.

Shoonra

(520 posts)
17. I suspect .....
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 04:34 AM
Oct 2017

I suspect that this story has a very ordinary explanation that eliminates any interesting aspect.

My theory is that the this British editor has simply miscalculated the time zone differences between London and Dallas (an easy error to make), he actually received the called about 35 minutes after the shooting but when he tried to figure out the Dallas time he got the wrong time zone and thereby got Dallas time wrong by one hour and thought he got the call 25 minutes before the shooting.

Scruffy1

(3,254 posts)
20. Am I ever sick of this.
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 09:45 AM
Oct 2017

A vague and anonymous phone call is "proof". Having at one time done a lot of reading on this subject, all the BS theories fall apart under the fact that no one knew the route until 2 days before the event and Oswald had been hired months before. Nut case gets opportunity and uses it. Some are nuts as the Las Vegas shooting shows. With logic like this we have Trump for President.

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