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alp227

(32,018 posts)
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 08:36 PM Aug 2012

Romney Faces Pressure From Right to Put Ryan on Ticket

Source: The New York Times

Conservatives are increasing the pressure on Mitt Romney again.

That Mr. Romney has not yet named his vice-presidential nominee has created an opening for social and economic conservatives to pressure him publicly, and they have taken the opportunity to make an aggressive case for Representative Paul D. Ryan of Wisconsin.

In rallying around Mr. Ryan, a champion of cutting government spending and reining in the costs of programs like Medicare and Medicaid, conservatives are calling for Mr. Romney to select someone who can push their fiscal agenda,but they also are setting the stage for a possible letdown on the right if Mr. Romney chooses someone else in his race against President Obama. A strongly worded Wall Street Journal editorial on Thursday urged Mr. Romney to pick Mr. Ryan, saying he "best exemplifies the nature and stakes of this election."

The editorial follows a fresh wave of public pressure from other conservative outlets for Mr. Romney to erase doubts about his commitment to conservative causes -an issue that has dogged Mr. Romney since his days campaigning as a liberal Republican for the Senate in Massachusetts.

Read more: http://mobile.nytimes.com/2012/08/10/us/politics/a-conservative-bid-for-paul-ryan-to-be-mitt-romneys-running-mate.xml

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Romney Faces Pressure From Right to Put Ryan on Ticket (Original Post) alp227 Aug 2012 OP
Go for it! aquart Aug 2012 #1
+1,000 freshwest Aug 2012 #19
Good DJ13 Aug 2012 #2
He's all ears. TheCowsCameHome Aug 2012 #3
Yah! put friggin Eddie Muenster montanacowboy Aug 2012 #4
The secret: dip Ryan in honey and then in money. n/t dimbear Aug 2012 #5
He is an absolute fraud Cosmocat Aug 2012 #6
The political cliff as a run-up to the fiscal cliff BeyondGeography Aug 2012 #7
Oh please proud2BlibKansan Aug 2012 #8
IF he is the Nom Maybe the Nuns on a Bus tour can follow Paul Ryan's campaign stops and hold Rallies Justice wanted Aug 2012 #9
Perfect! freshwest Aug 2012 #20
That would sure be a pretty sulphurdunn Aug 2012 #10
I wonder, has Mitt considered lying about it? sofa king Aug 2012 #11
You win the thread! freshwest Aug 2012 #21
How do I know you're telling the truth? sofa king Aug 2012 #23
The only proof I can offer about my not lying is that I have trouble enough keeping up without it. freshwest Aug 2012 #32
"...Romney is a superior being..." You didn't read the latest interview today. DCKit Aug 2012 #33
Oh, I should have included my sarcasm smilie. But see, you proved my point. freshwest Aug 2012 #34
Nah, I got it, I just wanted you to know that the interview is out there and was excerpted here. DCKit Aug 2012 #35
That would not surprise me. appleannie1 Aug 2012 #27
What kind of pressure can liberals apply? Can we pressure him to select Ann Coulter? AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #12
Liz Cheney.... they both turn stomachs just the same nt tomm2thumbs Aug 2012 #16
ROMNEY-RAFALCA 2012 - A Party of Horseshit! tomm2thumbs Aug 2012 #13
Hahaha! freshwest Aug 2012 #22
DUzy.... Aviation Pro Aug 2012 #25
lol @mount tomm2thumbs Aug 2012 #36
Rafalca, the literal embodiment of trickle-down theory... alterfurz Aug 2012 #38
Hey, it worked for Caligula KamaAina Aug 2012 #41
Maybe Ryan will replace Romney Jessy169 Aug 2012 #14
the Far Right wingers have nothing to lose tomm2thumbs Aug 2012 #18
...and the tax returns hit the Memory Hole...for now... RUMMYisFROSTED Aug 2012 #15
Republicans have become like Scientologists. Total obedience to rule book or you're punished. Monk06 Aug 2012 #17
I'm all for it. Flatpicker Aug 2012 #24
Hasn't The Tea Party Already Damaged Romney Enough DallasNE Aug 2012 #26
Ryan is the Tea Party candidate, so you NOW that the KOchs are probably pushing him. progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #28
What the right is counting on is for no one except conservatives to know diddley about Ryan's budget LongTomH Aug 2012 #29
With Ryan on the ticket, a teaching moment! Freddie Aug 2012 #31
One potential problem with this ... Kablooie Aug 2012 #30
I recall Robert Reich saying earlier this year when Gingrich was leading in polls that he would Douglas Carpenter Aug 2012 #37
ryan who used socialist government social security to put him through college? madrchsod Aug 2012 #39
i hope he does! samsingh Aug 2012 #40

Cosmocat

(14,563 posts)
6. He is an absolute fraud
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 08:53 PM
Aug 2012

he looks the part, same at Romney.

THAT is how these clowns think.

He is an intellectual lightweight who simply looks good spewing their nonsense.

I saw an interview with him where whoever was doing the interview said, "We know your focus on cutting taxes, explain what you would do economically outside of cutting taxes."

Ryan babbled for 15 seconds before spending the rest of 2 minutes talking about ... tax cuts ..."

He would not be Palin bad by any means, and not even Romney bad. But, he won't make any meaningful contribution - no foreign policy chops, nothing other than advancing a disaster of an economic plan that the "liberal" media has breathlessly characterized as "serious."

Justice wanted

(2,657 posts)
9. IF he is the Nom Maybe the Nuns on a Bus tour can follow Paul Ryan's campaign stops and hold Rallies
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 09:13 PM
Aug 2012

in the same city explaining how immoral Paul's budget is.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
11. I wonder, has Mitt considered lying about it?
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 09:22 PM
Aug 2012

He could write his pick down on a piece of paper and put it in an envelope, and the Convention can simply ratify the contents of the envelope.

Then, he can lie to each of the demographic groups he wishes to lie over to his side, and tell them that their pick is really his pick, but he has to keep the pick secret because... well, just because.

He can tell Libertarians that his pick is Ron Paul.

He can tell the Greens that his pick is Ralph Nader.

He can tell the Republicans that his pick is the reanimated corpse of Ronald Reagan.

He can tell Democrats that his pick is Barack Obama.

Wow, this lying shit is really powerful, man! I should do it all the time!

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
23. How do I know you're telling the truth?
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 10:19 PM
Aug 2012

Holy shit, do you realize that anyone could have been lying to me this whole time? I thought Romney invented it.

Son of a b----. What in the hell am I going to do with all these Beanie Babies and Thomas Kinkade paintings?

I'd better call my partners in Nigeria about this.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
32. The only proof I can offer about my not lying is that I have trouble enough keeping up without it.
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 11:14 PM
Aug 2012

Last edited Thu Aug 9, 2012, 11:46 PM - Edit history (1)

I can't control my dual nature sufficiently to carry two different realities in my head at the same time. At least that's what I think. But I'm not sure that I know that so I try to just K.I.S.S. So I've always been as honest as I know how to be. It's probably a mental defect.

Truly, Romney is a superior being and able to handle more than one dimension at the same time.

I'm hoping that aliens from outer space will find his hoard of money and take him and it away from Earth and leave us in peace. We could throw him a great going away party. I think he is supposed to get to rule his own planet if he's rich enough. Or some such twaddle. Really, is that too much to ask of the rulers of Kolob or whatever?

And I'd stay away from investing in those things you listed, or giving your personal information to those princes in Nigeria. I suspect your money has been funneled into Mitt's offshore (or dare we say, off planet?) bank accounts. My condolences.

 

DCKit

(18,541 posts)
33. "...Romney is a superior being..." You didn't read the latest interview today.
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 11:36 PM
Aug 2012

He was on both sides of the issues the whole way through. No matter what they asked him, he managed to portray both POVs spontaneously and simultaneously.

Sure, it gave ME a headache, but I think people who vote (R) read something like that and take away exactly what they want to hear. They've had >30 years of GOP conditioning.

It's the Twilight Zone.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
34. Oh, I should have included my sarcasm smilie. But see, you proved my point.
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 11:45 PM
Aug 2012

He doesn't exist in the same continuum as we do, rather he has one foot resting in one universe and another one, too.



I think we will see the last of him sooner than later. Well, in November, at latest.



Oh, and for doing that painful research for us on Mittbot. I can't watch any of them anymore!

 

DCKit

(18,541 posts)
35. Nah, I got it, I just wanted you to know that the interview is out there and was excerpted here.
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 11:58 PM
Aug 2012

I had to read it three times before I could pick out all the different threads of BS.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
12. What kind of pressure can liberals apply? Can we pressure him to select Ann Coulter?
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 09:25 PM
Aug 2012

There's nothing to indicate that Paul Ryan has defended Rmoney's refusal to be forthcoming with his tax returns, but Ann How-to-Talk-to-a-Liberal Coulter has.



If we openly express our dislike of her, will Rmoney be pressured to select her?

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
36. lol @mount
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 02:03 AM
Aug 2012

I guess it could always be the Ass-Backwards Party, but I can't figure out which would be the ass of the party, Mitt or the horse

alterfurz

(2,474 posts)
38. Rafalca, the literal embodiment of trickle-down theory...
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 04:36 AM
Aug 2012

..."Feed the horse enough oats, and eventually some will find their way onto the road for the sparrows."

Jessy169

(602 posts)
14. Maybe Ryan will replace Romney
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 09:29 PM
Aug 2012

Just wild unsubstantiated speculation here, of course. Romney is on the ropes, he can barely see through his bleeding purplish swollen eyes, he's missing a couple of teeth and Obama's floating like a butterfly, closing in for another barrage of uppercuts. Republicans see that, don't they? Maybe this sudden unified chorus of support for Ryan is just an opening move in something we've never witnessed before. Coincidentally, a Republican "group" in Tampa Florida is going public, questioning whether delegates should by conscience vote for Romney. Maybe no connection. But whatever is going on, it sure is interesting!

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
18. the Far Right wingers have nothing to lose
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 09:43 PM
Aug 2012

The Far Right extremists are crazy, and they think that God is telling them what to do. I would be scared if I were Romney nominating someone who they would prefer over me. They just might make it happen, however they felt it would work best.

Flatpicker

(894 posts)
24. I'm all for it.
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 10:21 PM
Aug 2012

They are a perfect pair.
Mr Money and the guy who wants to Destroy the poor.

Romney/Ryan 2012
The "Let them eat cake" administration.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
26. Hasn't The Tea Party Already Damaged Romney Enough
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 10:24 PM
Aug 2012

Just think, if Tea Party Republicans would have nominated anyone except Sharron Angle to run against Harry Reid in 2010 then Reid would be a former Senator who nobody would listen too. As it is, Reid has Romney in a hammer lock and won't let go. Under the circumstances Ryan may not want the VP slot. Who knows, should Reid release his source on the eve of the Republican convention Ryan may want to go for the top spot. I can see the Wall Street Journal making that call under those circumstances.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
28. Ryan is the Tea Party candidate, so you NOW that the KOchs are probably pushing him.
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 10:40 PM
Aug 2012

In fact, they may have demanded it. YOu know damn well when people like them and Adelman are contributing hundreds of millions of dollars to Romney, then they are going to be telling him who to pick.

I hope that they pick that weasel. His budget reads like a Dickens' novel.

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
29. What the right is counting on is for no one except conservatives to know diddley about Ryan's budget
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 10:52 PM
Aug 2012

It's not like the main$tream media has done their job explaining what Ryan is all about; they've just labeled him as a 'statesman' with a 'serious plan' to address the deficit. They omit little things like: Ryan will take away most of your Social Security and Medicare, while lowering taxes on the rich.

Freddie

(9,259 posts)
31. With Ryan on the ticket, a teaching moment!
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 11:10 PM
Aug 2012

The mastermind behind the plan to destroy Medicare...the Dems will remind the public at every opportunity just exactly what he plans to do. Looks like we've finally grown a spine in this campaign and Ryan on the ticket would be awesome. The planned destruction of the safety net has a face and a name. Go for it, GOP!

Kablooie

(18,626 posts)
30. One potential problem with this ...
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 10:52 PM
Aug 2012

If Romney won the presidency and then died, Paul Ryan would be president of the United States of America.

I know, far fetched, but whoever thought the John Birch society would become one of the major forces in American politics? That was far fetched too until a few years ago. (The tea people are essentially John Birchers in more fashionable clothing.)

I don't put anything as being impossible anymore.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
37. I recall Robert Reich saying earlier this year when Gingrich was leading in polls that he would
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 03:15 AM
Aug 2012

prefer a 40% chance of Romney winning the Presidency to a 10% chance of Gingrich being elected. Thus saying that it is not necessarily a good idea to wish for the Republicans to nominate a real crazy assuming that would spell certain defeat. Although Ryan would likely weaken the ticket - it would be just too risky if we consider the worse case - but still not completely implausible - scenario.

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
39. ryan who used socialist government social security to put him through college?
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 07:44 AM
Aug 2012

it so he wants others not to have the benefits he used to better his lot in life. oh well, just another lying teabagger scum bag with a chip on his shoulder.

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