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Thu Oct 12, 2017, 09:31 PM

Utah's 'Negro Bill Canyon' renamed after years of debate

Source: Associated Press


Updated 7:43 pm, Thursday, October 12, 2017

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) After years of debate, a U.S. government board has voted to rename Utah's Negro Bill Canyon, overruling a recommendation by Utah officials to keep the name.

The U.S. Board on Geographic Names decided Thursday to rename it Grandstaff Canyon to get rid of an offensive name, The Salt Lake Tribune reports . The vote was 12-0, with one member declining to vote. The decision comes 16 years after the board voted to keep the name.

The new name honors black rancher and prospector William Grandstaff, whose cattle grazed there in the 1870s.

"His name was Grandstaff; it was not Negro Bill," said Wendi-Starr Brown, a member of the federal board who is Native American. "I'm pretty sure that's not how he wanted to be addressed in life."

Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/us/article/Utah-s-Negro-Bill-Canyon-renamed-after-years-of-12273084.php

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Judi Lynn Oct 12 OP
Binkie The Clown Oct 12 #1
Retrograde Oct 12 #3
Binkie The Clown Oct 12 #6
brokephibroke Oct 12 #2
Retrograde Oct 12 #4
Goblor Oct 12 #5
jaysunb Oct 12 #7
Botany Oct 13 #8
FLPanhandle Oct 13 #9
IronLionZion Oct 13 #10
bermudat Oct 13 #11

Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:00 PM

1. There was much insensitivity in times past. I remember "Dead Indian Road" in Southern Oregon.

It was changed years ago to "Dead Indian Memorial Road". I'm not sure that's any better.

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Response to Binkie The Clown (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:16 PM

3. I've been there

It made me wonder why it got its name. I still haven't found out why it's called that.

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Response to Retrograde (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:51 PM

6. The story goes...



According to the Medford newspaper: http://www.mailtribune.com/article/20110220/news/102200334

By late summer 1855, vengeance and retribution were about to explode. Settlers and American Indians both felt the tension.

Two years after the 1853 Rogue River Indian War had ended, fear and suspicion were stronger than ever.

In September 1855, Fred Alberding was returning to the Oregon Territory after a year living in the United States. He made camp in the Siskiyou Mountains off the Applegate Trail.

When he woke up, one of his horses was missing. Seeing smoke from a nearby Indian village, he decided they must have taken it.


What follows is a tale of violent gun battles and Indians wrongly blamed for horse stealing.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:10 PM

2. I've hiked that canyon

It's just outside of Moab. Easy hike to a cool natural bridge.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:20 PM

4. So, it's still named after the same person

but it's going to be called by his formal name instead of a nickname. Sounds fine to me.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:46 PM

5. I've wondered about the name change...

About time. I've hiked the canyon several times and recommend it. I did a fly-over a while back, starting at 1:40: [link:|

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Response to Goblor (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:51 PM

7. That was super cool !! n/t

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Fri Oct 13, 2017, 07:07 AM

8. In Western MD and PA there is still Negro Mountain

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Fri Oct 13, 2017, 07:40 AM

9. We had a N****r Bayou on the map for many years

It was renamed Negro Bayou sometime in the 50's.

Now it's call Chula Vista Bayou.

Sometimes, you have to look back in time and shake your head wondering "What in the Hell were they thinking?"

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Fri Oct 13, 2017, 08:10 AM

10. Yup, I'm sure people loved the idea of a black rancher owning cattle in the civil war era

and couldn't help themselves but to call out his race.

Maybe Orange Donald can chime in about the importance of preserving history so that young people don't forget...or something.

I'd like to start naming sewage pipes after Trump.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Fri Oct 13, 2017, 02:03 PM

11. There is a Negro Bar in Folsom, outside of Sacramento.

Though I suspect it was called something else 100 years ago.

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