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Wed Oct 11, 2017, 02:22 PM

Democrat stops just short of forcing House vote on Trumps impeachment

Source: Washington Post

A Democratic congressman stopped just short of forcing a House vote on President Trump’s impeachment Wednesday, pulling back under apparent pressure from his own party.

Rep. Al Green (D-Tex.) read his impeachment resolution on the House floor Wednesday afternoon, bringing it up under rules that would force a rapid vote. But when, less than an hour later, the House’s presiding officer called the resolution up for action, Green did not appear on the floor to offer it.

Green said to reporters afterward that he had wanted to allow more time for his colleagues to review the resolution before it was voted on, and he suggested that the House floor staff had misled him about the timing of that vote.

“Before I left the floor, there was an understanding with the parliamentarian and other persons who were there that it would not be voted on immediately,” he said.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/democrat-stops-just-short-of-forcing-house-vote-on-trumps-impeachment/2017/10/11/23b998ba-aea6-11e7-9e58-e6288544af98_story.html

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Reply Democrat stops just short of forcing House vote on Trumps impeachment (Original post)
brooklynite Oct 11 OP
bearsfootball516 Oct 11 #1
Bernardo de La Paz Oct 11 #10
cstanleytech Oct 11 #12
Cartoonist Oct 11 #2
brooklynite Oct 11 #6
cstanleytech Oct 11 #13
marylandblue Oct 11 #3
procon Oct 11 #4
BigmanPigman Oct 11 #5
frazzled Oct 11 #7
Bernardo de La Paz Oct 11 #11
Dan Oct 11 #16
Hoyt Oct 11 #8
ffr Oct 11 #9
Sunlei Oct 11 #14
humbled_opinion Oct 11 #15
onenote Oct 11 #17
Crash2Parties Oct 11 #18
NCDem777 Oct 11 #20
NCDem777 Oct 11 #19

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Oct 11, 2017, 02:32 PM

1. They have to walk a very fine line

Midterms are a year away, and if you're a vulnerable Democrat in a red state, voting for impeachment would be a death sentence.

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 11, 2017, 03:39 PM

10. Yes, now is not the time. Soon though, it will be. We're near the tipping point.


Almost all Republicans are sick of tRump in private.

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 11, 2017, 04:25 PM

12. Plus they are probably hoping that Trump will continue to hurt the Repugnants image

and thereby win even more seats back from the Repugnants.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Oct 11, 2017, 02:33 PM

2. apparent pressure from his own party.

This is why Trump is in the WH.
This is why Trump will get a second term.

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Response to Cartoonist (Reply #2)

Wed Oct 11, 2017, 02:49 PM

6. Is the purpose of this vote to make you feel better?

It won’t pass, and no Republican will be a risk in 2018 because they voted against an impeach,ent resolution today.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #6)

Wed Oct 11, 2017, 04:29 PM

13. Exactly. All the nay votes would do would

be to provide something for their base to rally around when its closer to the election but the Democrats can put the Repugnants on the defensive instead by not trying to impeach him and just letting Trump continue to hurt the Repugnants image as a whole every time he opens his fat mouth or posts on twitter.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Oct 11, 2017, 02:37 PM

3. Won't pass without republicans on board anyway

Need some republicans to turn against Trump, until then, a vote is meaningless.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Oct 11, 2017, 02:37 PM

4. Did Pelosi tell him to stop?

She quashed any talk of impeaching Bush, so it would not surprise me if she kills any move to impeach Trump. Its probably too soon without Mueller's findings and the other investigations still undone. When the proof is writ and the paperwork delivered... maybe then?

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Oct 11, 2017, 02:45 PM

5. I think it needs to come from the GOP for it to

be taken seriously. Our hands are tied until 45 screws up so much that the GOP is no longer afraid of him and the votes from his base. I hope he goes nuts on live TV (on NBC would be the best) when his "pressure cooker" finally explodes. That will be when the GOP finally says enough is enough. They are selfish, greedy sociopaths too.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Oct 11, 2017, 02:50 PM

7. Good move--a failed vote now will make it harder later

When Mueller releases his investigation and other inevitable crises arise for the Republicans.

Show votes accomplish nothing, and often hurt a cause. Sit back a while and watch the White House and congressional Republicans implode a bit further. Then there will be a strong movement for impeachment from within the R party.

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Response to frazzled (Reply #7)

Wed Oct 11, 2017, 03:39 PM

11. Correct. . . . nt

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Response to frazzled (Reply #7)

Wed Oct 11, 2017, 05:33 PM

16. and when that day comes

the Democratic congressional representatives should delay their vote until all the GOP representatives have voted. Regardless of which way the GOP votes, for or against impeachment - get them on the record - and they are screwed either with the Trump supporters or the sane GOP voters. It is a true no-win, as they will discover in 2018 - they have made a devil's bargain.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Oct 11, 2017, 02:55 PM

8. We ought to try it at least as often as ACA repeal.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Oct 11, 2017, 03:09 PM

9. If democrats could work on finding defectors or should I call them Americans in the KGOP

Then they might be able to force impeachment before WWIII.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Oct 11, 2017, 05:19 PM

14. Tricked him. told him "that it would not be voted on immediately, "less than an hour later,...

"less than an hour later, the House’s presiding officer called the resolution up for action"

Bring it again. Rep. Al Green (D-Tex.)

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Oct 11, 2017, 05:27 PM

15. They could have at least

addressed the specific crimes involved.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Oct 11, 2017, 08:33 PM

17. Handing Trump a win at this point in time would be stupid

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Oct 11, 2017, 10:02 PM

18. Remember how Republicans used to put up bills that had no chance of winning during Obama?

They did it to keep their base enthused & to remind them that their reps were actually representing them.

The contrast is blinding.

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Response to Crash2Parties (Reply #18)

Wed Oct 11, 2017, 11:01 PM

20. Depends on the bills

Impeachment is never going to happen. GOP doesn't have the morals. Give up on it. Most people on the independent end of the spectrum know that. And they have serious Russia fatigue. CNN took a poll in March. 57% cared. Took the same poll in July. 43% cared. Many of them think the Dems are just being sore losers.

If you're going to put up bills that won't win, put up bills that independents care about. Force em to explain why they're dithering on CHIP for example.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Wed Oct 11, 2017, 10:42 PM

19. Real question

Who here thinks that the same party who actively recruits white supremacists, eugenicists, and people who say that mass shooting victims are government agents, will have the morality to conduct an impeachment?

Reality check: Dems have been able to flip seats at state and local elections, some of which have been Republican for generations by focusing on issues that they have a chance in hell at changing. But they lost national seats because the DNC bumbled in and ranted about Russia.

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