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brooklynite

(94,483 posts)
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 03:22 PM Oct 2017

Democrat stops just short of forcing House vote on Trumps impeachment

Source: Washington Post

A Democratic congressman stopped just short of forcing a House vote on President Trump’s impeachment Wednesday, pulling back under apparent pressure from his own party.

Rep. Al Green (D-Tex.) read his impeachment resolution on the House floor Wednesday afternoon, bringing it up under rules that would force a rapid vote. But when, less than an hour later, the House’s presiding officer called the resolution up for action, Green did not appear on the floor to offer it.

Green said to reporters afterward that he had wanted to allow more time for his colleagues to review the resolution before it was voted on, and he suggested that the House floor staff had misled him about the timing of that vote.

“Before I left the floor, there was an understanding with the parliamentarian and other persons who were there that it would not be voted on immediately,” he said.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/democrat-stops-just-short-of-forcing-house-vote-on-trumps-impeachment/2017/10/11/23b998ba-aea6-11e7-9e58-e6288544af98_story.html

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Democrat stops just short of forcing House vote on Trumps impeachment (Original Post) brooklynite Oct 2017 OP
They have to walk a very fine line bearsfootball516 Oct 2017 #1
Yes, now is not the time. Soon though, it will be. We're near the tipping point. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2017 #10
Plus they are probably hoping that Trump will continue to hurt the Repugnants image cstanleytech Oct 2017 #12
apparent pressure from his own party. Cartoonist Oct 2017 #2
Is the purpose of this vote to make you feel better? brooklynite Oct 2017 #6
Exactly. All the nay votes would do would cstanleytech Oct 2017 #13
Won't pass without republicans on board anyway marylandblue Oct 2017 #3
Did Pelosi tell him to stop? procon Oct 2017 #4
I think it needs to come from the GOP for it to BigmanPigman Oct 2017 #5
Good move--a failed vote now will make it harder later frazzled Oct 2017 #7
Correct. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2017 #11
and when that day comes Dan Oct 2017 #16
We ought to try it at least as often as ACA repeal. Hoyt Oct 2017 #8
If democrats could work on finding defectors or should I call them Americans in the KGOP ffr Oct 2017 #9
Tricked him. told him "that it would not be voted on immediately, "less than an hour later,... Sunlei Oct 2017 #14
They could have at least humbled_opinion Oct 2017 #15
Handing Trump a win at this point in time would be stupid onenote Oct 2017 #17
Remember how Republicans used to put up bills that had no chance of winning during Obama? Crash2Parties Oct 2017 #18
Depends on the bills NCDem777 Oct 2017 #20
Real question NCDem777 Oct 2017 #19

bearsfootball516

(6,376 posts)
1. They have to walk a very fine line
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 03:32 PM
Oct 2017

Midterms are a year away, and if you're a vulnerable Democrat in a red state, voting for impeachment would be a death sentence.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,988 posts)
10. Yes, now is not the time. Soon though, it will be. We're near the tipping point.
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 04:39 PM
Oct 2017

Almost all Republicans are sick of tRump in private.

cstanleytech

(26,277 posts)
12. Plus they are probably hoping that Trump will continue to hurt the Repugnants image
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 05:25 PM
Oct 2017

and thereby win even more seats back from the Repugnants.

Cartoonist

(7,314 posts)
2. apparent pressure from his own party.
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 03:33 PM
Oct 2017

This is why Trump is in the WH.
This is why Trump will get a second term.

brooklynite

(94,483 posts)
6. Is the purpose of this vote to make you feel better?
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 03:49 PM
Oct 2017

It won’t pass, and no Republican will be a risk in 2018 because they voted against an impeach,ent resolution today.

cstanleytech

(26,277 posts)
13. Exactly. All the nay votes would do would
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 05:29 PM
Oct 2017

be to provide something for their base to rally around when its closer to the election but the Democrats can put the Repugnants on the defensive instead by not trying to impeach him and just letting Trump continue to hurt the Repugnants image as a whole every time he opens his fat mouth or posts on twitter.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
3. Won't pass without republicans on board anyway
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 03:37 PM
Oct 2017

Need some republicans to turn against Trump, until then, a vote is meaningless.

procon

(15,805 posts)
4. Did Pelosi tell him to stop?
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 03:37 PM
Oct 2017

She quashed any talk of impeaching Bush, so it would not surprise me if she kills any move to impeach Trump. Its probably too soon without Mueller's findings and the other investigations still undone. When the proof is writ and the paperwork delivered... maybe then?

BigmanPigman

(51,582 posts)
5. I think it needs to come from the GOP for it to
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 03:45 PM
Oct 2017

be taken seriously. Our hands are tied until 45 screws up so much that the GOP is no longer afraid of him and the votes from his base. I hope he goes nuts on live TV (on NBC would be the best) when his "pressure cooker" finally explodes. That will be when the GOP finally says enough is enough. They are selfish, greedy sociopaths too.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
7. Good move--a failed vote now will make it harder later
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 03:50 PM
Oct 2017

When Mueller releases his investigation and other inevitable crises arise for the Republicans.

Show votes accomplish nothing, and often hurt a cause. Sit back a while and watch the White House and congressional Republicans implode a bit further. Then there will be a strong movement for impeachment from within the R party.

Dan

(3,542 posts)
16. and when that day comes
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 06:33 PM
Oct 2017

the Democratic congressional representatives should delay their vote until all the GOP representatives have voted. Regardless of which way the GOP votes, for or against impeachment - get them on the record - and they are screwed either with the Trump supporters or the sane GOP voters. It is a true no-win, as they will discover in 2018 - they have made a devil's bargain.

ffr

(22,668 posts)
9. If democrats could work on finding defectors or should I call them Americans in the KGOP
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 04:09 PM
Oct 2017

Then they might be able to force impeachment before WWIII.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
14. Tricked him. told him "that it would not be voted on immediately, "less than an hour later,...
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 06:19 PM
Oct 2017

"less than an hour later, the House’s presiding officer called the resolution up for action"

Bring it again. Rep. Al Green (D-Tex.)

Crash2Parties

(6,017 posts)
18. Remember how Republicans used to put up bills that had no chance of winning during Obama?
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 11:02 PM
Oct 2017

They did it to keep their base enthused & to remind them that their reps were actually representing them.

The contrast is blinding.

 

NCDem777

(458 posts)
20. Depends on the bills
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 12:01 AM
Oct 2017

Impeachment is never going to happen. GOP doesn't have the morals. Give up on it. Most people on the independent end of the spectrum know that. And they have serious Russia fatigue. CNN took a poll in March. 57% cared. Took the same poll in July. 43% cared. Many of them think the Dems are just being sore losers.

If you're going to put up bills that won't win, put up bills that independents care about. Force em to explain why they're dithering on CHIP for example.

 

NCDem777

(458 posts)
19. Real question
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 11:42 PM
Oct 2017

Who here thinks that the same party who actively recruits white supremacists, eugenicists, and people who say that mass shooting victims are government agents, will have the morality to conduct an impeachment?

Reality check: Dems have been able to flip seats at state and local elections, some of which have been Republican for generations by focusing on issues that they have a chance in hell at changing. But they lost national seats because the DNC bumbled in and ranted about Russia.

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