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BumRushDaShow

(128,780 posts)
Tue Sep 26, 2017, 02:19 PM Sep 2017

Senate won't vote on GOP health care bill, sources tell CNN

Source: CNN

Washington (CNN) The Senate will not vote on the Graham-Cassidy bill to repeal Obamacare, Majority Leader Mitch McConnell told Republicans in a closed-door meeting, three sources told CNN.

McConnell met with lawmakers Tuesday to take stock of where his members are on the proposal and make the call once and for all if Graham-Cassidy, the latest bill to repeal and replace Obamacare, will get a vote in the Senate.

On Monday, Sen. Susan Collins, a Republican from Maine, finally came out against the bill, a position she'd been teetering toward for days. Sens. John McCain of Arizona and Rand Paul of Kentucky also opposed to the measure.

The calculations for health care are agonizing for McConnell. Putting a controversial bill on the floor without the votes exposes members to political fallout and attack ads. Many Republicans haven't even taken a public position on Graham-Cassidy, a bill that the Congressional Budget Office said Monday would drastically cut Medicaid and lead to millions of people not having health insurance compared to the status quo.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/26/politics/health-care-republican-senate-vote/index.html



I don't trust them.

CNN's tweet (got a breaking banner on it) -




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JUST IN: The Senate will not vote on the latest Republican bill to repeal Obamacare, sources tell CNN http://cnn.it/2hx3GrQ
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Senate won't vote on GOP health care bill, sources tell CNN (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Sep 2017 OP
Cowards, they don't want to go on record voting for that total shit. The_Casual_Observer Sep 2017 #1
They are already multiple times moda253 Sep 2017 #4
not really LittleGirl Sep 2017 #21
This thing's been "dead" before. I won't breath easy till Sunday. briv1016 Sep 2017 #2
Ah. Cover for the cowards. They will lie. Jakes Progress Sep 2017 #3
Is this regarding the Graham-Cassidy 2.0 or the version from last week? PNW-Dem Sep 2017 #5
For all we know BumRushDaShow Sep 2017 #8
I am with you! BigmanPigman Sep 2017 #13
Don't they get embarrassed frazzled Sep 2017 #6
If they don't put it up for a vote, that means there are a lot of NO votes. Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #7
It would probably not make it out of the House BumRushDaShow Sep 2017 #11
I think at least 4 NO votes maybe 5 at this point. I hope so. I wish there were 100 NO votes. Turn CO Blue Sep 2017 #23
More. Many more, I think. That's why he's not taking it to a vote. Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #24
Turtle Mitch is up for re-election in 2020 FakeNoose Sep 2017 #9
OMG BumRushDaShow Sep 2017 #19
Is it over?? I don't know if they are pulling another trick like the House did? BigmanPigman Sep 2017 #10
I find the conspiracy thinking tiring... brooklynite Sep 2017 #12
Murkowski voted "no" the last time BumRushDaShow Sep 2017 #17
I agree BumRushDaShow. Kingofalldems Sep 2017 #14
I'm with you, Bum. kag Sep 2017 #15
McTurtle should be Plucketeer Sep 2017 #16
I guess they were tired of all the winning? NewJeffCT Sep 2017 #18
They are already talking about trying to extend reconciliation in rsdsharp Sep 2017 #20
I literally just heard an audio clip of Turtle on our local news radio station BumRushDaShow Sep 2017 #22
All the folks will be in high anxiety until the next time. damn riversedge Sep 2017 #25
I wouldn't beleive that until October 1st. nt doc03 Sep 2017 #26
I'm blaming this on Sanders. Voltaire2 Sep 2017 #27

LittleGirl

(8,282 posts)
21. not really
Tue Sep 26, 2017, 03:03 PM
Sep 2017

they are FUCKING COWARDS.
sorry for my lousy mouth/keyboard but this is my life, my healthcare and I'm fucking pissed at all of them!

Jakes Progress

(11,122 posts)
3. Ah. Cover for the cowards. They will lie.
Tue Sep 26, 2017, 02:29 PM
Sep 2017

They will tell their evil donors how hard they tried to ruin millions of lives. They will tell their voters that the bill wasn't going to hurt anyone. And those stupid enough to have voted republican will, as stupid people will, fall for the lie again.

But we still shouldn't let anyone forget how they said they would vote and what they knew about the bill.

BumRushDaShow

(128,780 posts)
8. For all we know
Tue Sep 26, 2017, 02:37 PM
Sep 2017

there may be a bunch of versions including one to satisfy Ayn Rand Paul. I won't trust them until the clock strikes midnight September 30th and even then, they have the power to "stop the clock" too.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
6. Don't they get embarrassed
Tue Sep 26, 2017, 02:36 PM
Sep 2017

writing up and talking up bills that either fail to pass or fail before they even pass? How does this help them?

The idea that they are cowards because they don't want members on record voting for it because opponents can use it against them in the elections is not right: there are plenty of their votes on the record already to use against them.

So why even publicly try? It just makes them look weak and ineffectual.

(Democrats: beware of this. Losing a vote on a bill, no matter how good that bill is, has downsides. Failing repeatedly has big downsides.)

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
7. If they don't put it up for a vote, that means there are a lot of NO votes.
Tue Sep 26, 2017, 02:37 PM
Sep 2017

The Repubs would be embarrassed, and particularly McConnell. If they were all YES votes, except for 3 or 4, he'd do it.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
24. More. Many more, I think. That's why he's not taking it to a vote.
Tue Sep 26, 2017, 03:28 PM
Sep 2017

Since it won't pass, there's no reason for many of them to vote "yes" and take election consequences for that...plus they were on the fence, anyway.

FakeNoose

(32,625 posts)
9. Turtle Mitch is up for re-election in 2020
Tue Sep 26, 2017, 02:38 PM
Sep 2017

I sure hope he gets primaried.

Remember that McConnell was close to losing (by the poll numbers) in 2014 against his Democratic opponent. But then he won by the widest margin ever - it was a miracle! We never asked Uncle Vladdy if he had anything to do with that.



BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
10. Is it over?? I don't know if they are pulling another trick like the House did?
Tue Sep 26, 2017, 02:39 PM
Sep 2017

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brooklynite

(94,490 posts)
12. I find the conspiracy thinking tiring...
Tue Sep 26, 2017, 02:39 PM
Sep 2017

They didn't find surprise votes for the last Senate healthcare Bill...or the one before that.

BumRushDaShow

(128,780 posts)
17. Murkowski voted "no" the last time
Tue Sep 26, 2017, 02:46 PM
Sep 2017

but has been mostly silent this go-around. Rand Paul is the wildcard here. If Murkowski was a definite "no", then they are done (for now).

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
16. McTurtle should be
Tue Sep 26, 2017, 02:44 PM
Sep 2017

sunning himself on a log in some SCUM-filled pond - where he'd feel right at home. Screw these liars and their "States do it better" bullshit. The only thing that pisses me off more is the dimwits that believe their deceptive spew. If it weren't for the dolts that believe the GOP, we'd have had single payer decades ago.

BumRushDaShow

(128,780 posts)
22. I literally just heard an audio clip of Turtle on our local news radio station
Tue Sep 26, 2017, 03:07 PM
Sep 2017

where he claimed that they were going to move on to "tax reform" ("most significant in 30 years" or something like that). I wouldn't be surprised that they would still keep at trying to find some way to eliminate the ACA however way they can (including starving it).

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