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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 10:47 AM Sep 2017

Hurricanes may be God's way of telling folks to move, says GOP Texas congressman

Source: CNBC News




Berkeley Lovelace Jr. | @BerkeleyJr
Published 2 Hours Ago Updated 56 Mins Ago
CNBC.com

GOP Texas Rep. Jeb Hensarling told CNBC on Thursday that U.S. taxpayers should not have to foot the bill for at-risk homes after two hurricanes hit the United States over the past month.

"We have these repetitive loss properties," said the chairman of the House Financial Services Committee. "So for example, we have one property outside of Baton Rouge [Louisiana] that has a modest home worth about $60,000 that's flooded over 40 times. The taxpayers have paid almost half a million dollars for it."

"At some point, God is telling you to move," Hensarling added in an interview on "Squawk Box."

"If all we do is force federal taxpayers to build the same home in the same fashion in the same location and expect a different result, we all know that is the classic definition of insanity," he said.

Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/21/rep-jeb-hensarling-hurricanes-may-be-god-way-of-telling-folks-to-move.html

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Hurricanes may be God's way of telling folks to move, says GOP Texas congressman (Original Post) DonViejo Sep 2017 OP
I would certainly get the hell out of Texas then. dogman Sep 2017 #1
Great, idiot, then why does Trump and the GOP constantly relax building restrictions in wetlands? bucolic_frolic Sep 2017 #2
Climate change is god's way of saying "Stop putting shit in the air that doesn't belong there" Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2017 #3
Here is an article on point exboyfil Sep 2017 #4
Well, take the word "God" out of it, and he is right hueymahl Sep 2017 #5
Yup dbackjon Sep 2017 #22
I agree. There should be a limit on the number of government bail outs. Shrike47 Sep 2017 #27
Yup, this here is climate change. joshcryer Sep 2017 #42
Well then, God will surely point an alternative way forward BeyondGeography Sep 2017 #6
Maybe God is Mad videohead5 Sep 2017 #7
Half of Christians say Jesus represented a break from the Old Testament Wrathful God, ExciteBike66 Sep 2017 #8
All part of hurricane gentrification IronLionZion Sep 2017 #9
After you, Mr. Congressman DBoon Sep 2017 #10
I agree (minus the 'god' reference). Chemisse Sep 2017 #11
Let's build a rocket and get off this dynamic planet Marthe48 Sep 2017 #12
Swap Al Gore for God and you might be onto something Not Ruth Sep 2017 #13
Unlike the unpleasant god of Texas, Al Gore is just a worried man with Scientific facts in hand. Hekate Sep 2017 #18
God hates Texas? leftofcool Sep 2017 #14
Yes, must be so. Lonestarblue Sep 2017 #15
Evangelists like Pat Robertson like to blame disasters on various sins, usually homosexuality. keithbvadu2 Sep 2017 #30
Another pious Christian exceeding his mortal being, while attempting to explain God's motives. TheBlackAdder Sep 2017 #16
Well, you heartless *hole, both Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands are being scoured as we speak... Hekate Sep 2017 #17
I've seen plenty of DUers post the exact same sentiment. B2G Sep 2017 #19
Not that it is God's doing though. dbackjon Sep 2017 #21
Not the same sentiment at all, if they don't invoke Gawd. Not by a long shot. n/t Judi Lynn Sep 2017 #32
Hey fuckstick - it's not God telling them to move - it's REALITY dbackjon Sep 2017 #20
I hate to agree with anything Repuke - but, the guy has a point packman Sep 2017 #23
Has any evangelist preacher .. Hieronymus Sep 2017 #24
Maybe the government should have just bought the house? Grins Sep 2017 #25
We have a winner! colorado_ufo Sep 2017 #29
...and republicans are Loge23 Sep 2017 #26
If you build on a seaside sand dune, you should self-insure. Ocean is coming. Shrike47 Sep 2017 #28
This is socialism that republicans love instead of the free market. keithbvadu2 Sep 2017 #31
Another right-wing God Interpreter for the masses of us heathens. Judi Lynn Sep 2017 #33
hey, your "god" is really a psychopath, isn't he? niyad Sep 2017 #34
God has a xxqqqzme Sep 2017 #35
Another example of an extremely out-of-touch politician. MindPilot Sep 2017 #36
I'd agree with this, if you view God as reality or God's will as reality. raccoon Sep 2017 #37
Maybe they are a way of telling republicans BlueIdaho Sep 2017 #38
The government doesn't exactly pay for the houses to be rebuilt. OldHippieChick Sep 2017 #39
Republicans may be God's way of telling folks.... KY_EnviroGuy Sep 2017 #40
I thought it was because God hates "titty bars". roamer65 Sep 2017 #41
Uhh, maybe it's reality telling you to move? truthisfreedom Sep 2017 #43
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bucolic_frolic

(43,123 posts)
2. Great, idiot, then why does Trump and the GOP constantly relax building restrictions in wetlands?
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 10:50 AM
Sep 2017

Yeah, ok to make money for themselves, but all they're doing is making more flood prone properties

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,988 posts)
3. Climate change is god's way of saying "Stop putting shit in the air that doesn't belong there"
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 10:50 AM
Sep 2017

... for those who believe in god(s).

hueymahl

(2,482 posts)
5. Well, take the word "God" out of it, and he is right
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 10:58 AM
Sep 2017

"At some point, NATURE is telling you to move"

We have a serious public policy problem of encouraging developers to build in inappropriate areas. National flood insurance is just one aspect of it.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
42. Yup, this here is climate change.
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 06:31 PM
Sep 2017

You gotta move 100k people a day to remove coastal populations from the rising seas by 2100 (or spend trillions somehow making the coasts look like Norway).

BeyondGeography

(39,367 posts)
6. Well then, God will surely point an alternative way forward
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 10:59 AM
Sep 2017

Or maybe nature, aka God's righty-ous instrument, will do that.

ExciteBike66

(2,319 posts)
8. Half of Christians say Jesus represented a break from the Old Testament Wrathful God,
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 11:09 AM
Sep 2017

while the other half thinks that God is still constantly throwing plagues our way.

IronLionZion

(45,411 posts)
9. All part of hurricane gentrification
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 11:16 AM
Sep 2017

Encourage construction in flood prone areas
very loose zoning and building codes
make sure people can't effectively evacuate, if they have no place to go, no car, traffic congestion, or jobs that will fire them
Laugh mercilessly at the idiots who didn't leave
tell them to move
buy up those properties very cheaply
build up luxuriously gentrified properties high above any flooding risk
sell to rich bastards
lather, rinse, repeat


Actually, I'm not sure if they are building luxurious stuff in flood zones. But if people own a home and need to move because of flooding, who is going to buy it from them? Either some other poor sucker, or some blood sucking investor who wants to develop and flip it

Chemisse

(30,807 posts)
11. I agree (minus the 'god' reference).
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 11:23 AM
Sep 2017

Climate change will flood over these seaside settlements eventually. Rebuilding plans need to be realistic.

Hekate

(90,627 posts)
18. Unlike the unpleasant god of Texas, Al Gore is just a worried man with Scientific facts in hand.
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 12:00 PM
Sep 2017

Lonestarblue

(9,963 posts)
15. Yes, must be so.
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 11:55 AM
Sep 2017

Why else would we have these right-wing Republicans who wouldn’t know a good idea if it smacked them in the face every day when they look in the mirror and congratulate themselves on the number of “little people” they screwed that day!

keithbvadu2

(36,745 posts)
30. Evangelists like Pat Robertson like to blame disasters on various sins, usually homosexuality.
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 02:39 PM
Sep 2017

Evangelists like Pat Robertson like to blame disasters on various sins, usually homosexuality.

What has Texas been up to?

Hekate

(90,627 posts)
17. Well, you heartless *hole, both Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands are being scoured as we speak...
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 11:57 AM
Sep 2017

...by not one but a series of "500 year" storms all in one season. As we are talking about American citizens, they have the right to move to the Mainland, don't they? How's your district fixed for receiving our first onslaught of global climate change refugees?

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
20. Hey fuckstick - it's not God telling them to move - it's REALITY
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 12:29 PM
Sep 2017

Science and stuff.


OTOH, I agree with the conclusion. Taxpayers help ONCE. Then you are on your own.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
23. I hate to agree with anything Repuke - but, the guy has a point
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 12:45 PM
Sep 2017

I grew up living beside the Monongahela River in Pennsylvania. Our house was on a hill, so we were safe from the all-to-often flooding of that river. However, there were (and still is) many little towns along the river that gets hit, dries out and gets hit again with a great deal of frequency. Insurance claims were ridiculous , as pointed out by Hensarling - houses worth a few tens of thousands being flooded, gutted and then rebuilt. A simple move a few hundred yards beyond the bank would have solved many of the problems.
Of course there is a myriad of reasons for their location - once cheap land, houses already paid for, poor or non-existent zoning laws, local indifference, etc. I suppose that as long as one continues to pay their flood insurance policy ever increasing premiums, the problem will remain.

Grins

(7,205 posts)
25. Maybe the government should have just bought the house?
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 01:22 PM
Sep 2017

So, the feds paid half a million dollars over property worth $60K. Maybe they should have just bought the house? Why don't you suggest that, Congressman?

The problem is that that is all deeded legal property, and to forbid re-building is, basically, a "taking" by the government that would have to reimburse the property owners, something that came up in NJ and NY after Hurricane Sandy. Care to buy-out every property owner between Maine and Texas to a depth of 1-2 miles, Congressman? What could that cost?

colorado_ufo

(5,732 posts)
29. We have a winner!
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 02:09 PM
Sep 2017

So these people should just move,and no one should live there? Then to whom should they sell their house? Where are they going to get the money to BUY another house - anywhere?

Typical Repub thinking. They do not stop for a moment to consider that most people have invested the majority of their livelihood into their home and have no other means to buy another residence. Next the Repubs will suggest that they borrow from their vast 401Ks!

Right!

keithbvadu2

(36,745 posts)
31. This is socialism that republicans love instead of the free market.
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 02:41 PM
Sep 2017

This is socialism that republicans love instead of the free market.

You control both Houses of Congress and the WH.

Fix it?

Judi Lynn

(160,515 posts)
33. Another right-wing God Interpreter for the masses of us heathens.
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 03:09 PM
Sep 2017


Rep. Jeb Hensarling



"Speak, O Lord, Thy Servant Heareth"

raccoon

(31,107 posts)
37. I'd agree with this, if you view God as reality or God's will as reality.
Fri Sep 22, 2017, 05:03 PM
Sep 2017

(Arthur C. Clarke said something like that.)

I agree that at a certain point rebuilding is foolish.


OldHippieChick

(2,434 posts)
39. The government doesn't exactly pay for the houses to be rebuilt.
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 12:33 PM
Sep 2017

Homeowners are offered low-interest loans to rebuild. Their losses should be covered by insurance. If an insurance company continues to insure property, you can hardly blame the homeowner for rebuilding. The gov't losses are from defaults. Renters are given $10,000 personal property loans and many of these default because they move and leave no forwarding address. The feds won't give a homeowner a low-interest loan to rebuild unless they rebuild on the same piece of property. It's a vicious cycle.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,489 posts)
40. Republicans may be God's way of telling folks....
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 05:09 PM
Sep 2017

.......that we have not yet evolved far along enough to be trusted with any shelter beyond a cave or a lean-to in the forest.

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