HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Main » Latest Breaking News (Forum) » For first time in 300 yea...

Fri Sep 15, 2017, 12:24 PM

For first time in 300 years, no one is living on Barbuda

Source: CNN

(CNN)When Hurricane Irma ravaged the island of Barbuda in the Caribbean, the ferocious storm "extinguished" the isle's way of life and left the beautiful spot "uninhabitable." And, now, for the first time in a few centuries, no one lives there.

"The damage is complete," Ronald Sanders, the Antigua and Barbuda ambassador to the United States, told Public Radio International. "It's a humanitarian disaster.

"For the first time in 300 years, there's not a single living person on the island of Barbuda -- a civilization that has existed in that island for close to, over 300 years has now been extinguished."

Antigua and Barbuda -- which is located southeast of Puerto Rico and where the Atlantic Ocean and the Caribbean Sea meet -- became a sovereign state in the British commonwealth in 1981. Its population in July was estimated to be 94,731, with 97% of the population living on the island of Antigua, the CIA World Factbook said.

<more>

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/15/americas/irma-barbuda-population-trnd/index.html



Just a reminder - global warming is a hoax made in China....

29 replies, 3135 views

Reply to this thread

Back to top Alert abuse

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread
Arrow 29 replies Author Time Post
Reply For first time in 300 years, no one is living on Barbuda (Original post)
jpak Sep 2017 OP
lark Sep 2017 #1
DavidDvorkin Sep 2017 #2
marybourg Sep 2017 #14
DavidDvorkin Sep 2017 #23
SummerSnow Sep 2017 #4
barbtries Sep 2017 #6
lark Sep 2017 #7
marybourg Sep 2017 #15
SunSeeker Sep 2017 #3
barbtries Sep 2017 #5
Binkie The Clown Sep 2017 #8
malchickiwick Sep 2017 #9
obamanut2012 Sep 2017 #11
marybourg Sep 2017 #17
malchickiwick Sep 2017 #20
Igel Sep 2017 #26
malchickiwick Sep 2017 #28
paleotn Sep 2017 #19
malchickiwick Sep 2017 #22
obamanut2012 Sep 2017 #10
malchickiwick Sep 2017 #21
melm00se Sep 2017 #12
ThoughtCriminal Sep 2017 #13
BigmanPigman Sep 2017 #16
procon Sep 2017 #18
adigal Sep 2017 #24
tclambert Sep 2017 #25
robbob Sep 2017 #27
cntrfthrs Sep 2017 #29

Response to jpak (Original post)

Fri Sep 15, 2017, 12:28 PM

1. OMG, this is just so sad.

94,731 people have no place to live, have lost everything, this is almost beyond belief, but we tragically know it's true. My heart is breaking for them and all the others devastated by the killer storm.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to lark (Reply #1)

Fri Sep 15, 2017, 12:30 PM

2. No, that's the total population

Last edited Fri Sep 15, 2017, 03:45 PM - Edit history (1)

Only 3% lived on Barbuda.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to DavidDvorkin (Reply #2)

Fri Sep 15, 2017, 02:58 PM

14. You meant Barbuda. nt

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to marybourg (Reply #14)

Fri Sep 15, 2017, 03:44 PM

23. Right

Fixed it. Thanks.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to lark (Reply #1)

Fri Sep 15, 2017, 12:43 PM

4. I looked up Barbuda on Wikipedia...

They updated the population and it now says 0.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to lark (Reply #1)

Fri Sep 15, 2017, 12:55 PM

6. that's the total population of Barbuda and Antigua together

"97% of the population living on the island of Antigua" - Barbuda accounted for somewhere around 3,000 people, these people have lost all including the island where they lived.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to barbtries (Reply #6)

Fri Sep 15, 2017, 01:14 PM

7. Thanks for the clarification.

I wonder how Antigua is doing since it's right there? I haven't heard anything specific about that island.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to lark (Reply #7)

Fri Sep 15, 2017, 02:59 PM

15. Minimal damage. nt

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to jpak (Original post)

Fri Sep 15, 2017, 12:43 PM

3. Heartbreaking.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to jpak (Original post)

Fri Sep 15, 2017, 12:52 PM

5. given that global warming is no hoax,

my best wishes to the people who lost not just their house but their home and way of life. having said that i hope they all choose to put down roots elsewhere, and wish them great success going forward.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to jpak (Original post)

Fri Sep 15, 2017, 01:19 PM

8. As time goes on and the effects of global warming grow worse...

... more and more places in the world will be abandoned. People might still move back to Barbuda, but only for a while. Eventually it, along with other low-lying islands and coastlines, will have to be abandoned. It's a taste of things to come.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to jpak (Original post)

Fri Sep 15, 2017, 01:38 PM

9. 300 years?? Wow. Eurocentric much??

I guess we just won't count the people who resided there for thousands of years prior to the arrival of Euros.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to malchickiwick (Reply #9)

Fri Sep 15, 2017, 01:40 PM

11. I thought that, too

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to malchickiwick (Reply #9)

Fri Sep 15, 2017, 03:02 PM

17. It's a small island in what was a sparsely populated world.

It may not have been inhabited. I don't have any specific info either way, but it's not a given that there was an indigenous population pre-contact.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to marybourg (Reply #17)

Fri Sep 15, 2017, 03:35 PM

20. I happen to know the island was inhabited for thousands of years pre-contact: Hence my post.

Arawaks migrated there, and later Caribs, originally from South America.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to malchickiwick (Reply #20)

Fri Sep 15, 2017, 10:20 PM

26. I think the way to understand the article is this.

The Caribs didn't form permanent settlements; they were seasonal visitors that harvested what grew in the waters and on the land.

The British did form permanent settlements. The Arawaks were also year-round dwellers. But between the two the island had no permanent inhabitants. That's all that's required for the claim to be true: That at some point in the 1600s there be no year-round settlements for several years. There's no claim about the 1500s CE or before.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Igel (Reply #26)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 09:35 AM

28. Thanks, but I'll stick with my original explanation: Eurocentrism

I'm pretty sure the Taino, who were an Arawakan people, had permanent settlements there going back centuries if not millennia before being eradicated by the Euros.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to malchickiwick (Reply #9)

Fri Sep 15, 2017, 03:23 PM

19. Small island

with limited resources for traditional hunter gatherer societies. Africans and Euros may very well have been the first inhabitants

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to paleotn (Reply #19)

Fri Sep 15, 2017, 03:43 PM

22. Actually, Native people across the Caribbean enjoyed a plethora of resources.

The sea provided immense bounty, of course, but the Arawaks were also quite proficient agriculturalists (not simply "hunter-gatherers", raising maize, peanuts, tomato, squash, beans and even a type of sweet potato.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to jpak (Original post)

Fri Sep 15, 2017, 01:40 PM

10. Baruda's population pre Irma & Jose was approx. 1,800

Not 94k.

Also, people lived there way longer than 300 years -- they were just murdered by the illegal Spanish immigrants.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #10)

Fri Sep 15, 2017, 03:36 PM

21. "illegal Spanish immigrants" -- nicely stated.

That's exactly what those murdering rapists were!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink



Response to jpak (Original post)

Fri Sep 15, 2017, 02:02 PM

13. Severe Hurricanes are a "Liberal Myth"

Send the climate deniers to Barbuda for the next Cat 4+ there.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to jpak (Original post)

Fri Sep 15, 2017, 03:00 PM

16. It will be interesting for scientist to study how the natural

plants and wildlife will flourish on the island in the future.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to jpak (Original post)

Fri Sep 15, 2017, 03:11 PM

18. Antigua and Barbuda are an independent state.

Barbuda relies chiefly on tourism as the primary revenue source. They can't recover on their own without massive outside help to rebuild their infrastructure and housing so that they can attract resort and tourist investors who might consider new venue construction projects. This is years away for the people who lived there, but they still need jobs, food and housing, and everything else.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to jpak (Original post)

Fri Sep 15, 2017, 03:46 PM

24. You know, more and more I wonder if we should rebuild where Mother Earth has spoken

 

How many times will we rebuild down the Jersey shore? Parts of Long Beach Island have been decimated several times. Same with the Outer Banks and the low-lying Keys.

Not even counting the cost, which we all pay for through federal flood insurance (often to people WAY wealthier than the average American) it just may be smart to move back from the sea. Cause it will happen over and over.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to jpak (Original post)

Fri Sep 15, 2017, 10:09 PM

25. Silly people! Don't you know Barbuda was all a Chinese hoax?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to tclambert (Reply #25)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 07:51 AM

27. I, for one, had never even heard of the place.

Before this alleged "hurricane" supposedly devastated this so called "Barbuda".

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to jpak (Original post)

Sat Sep 16, 2017, 08:50 PM

29. the indigenous people lived there for thousands of years

before genocide came to their shores 300 years ago...

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink

Reply to this thread