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Wed Sep 13, 2017, 03:55 PM

We send a report every morning to ICE: Motel 6 reportedly outing guests to immigration officials

Source: Think Progress

Two Motel 6 locations in the Phoenix area are reportedly sending guest lists to Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officials on a daily basis. According to a report by the Phoenix New Times, this has resulted in at least 20 arrests at the two locations between February and August of this year.

Though neither management at the locations nor Motel 6’s corporate office responded to questions about this practice, at least one employee was fairly forthcoming. “We send a report every morning to ICE — all the names of everybody that comes in,” a front-desk clerk told the paper. “Every morning at about 5 o’clock, we do the audit and we push a button and it sends it to ICE.”

ICE was mum about the “investigative techniques” it uses, but Phoenix Police department spokesperson Jonathan Howard confirmed that “[o]n occasion and through informal contacts, various hotels and motels have shared their guest lists with officers.”

Read more: https://thinkprogress.org/motel-6-ice-deportation-29e7bc932b63/



Do they have f*cking warrants? And do they just look at the skin and the language...................






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Reply We send a report every morning to ICE: Motel 6 reportedly outing guests to immigration officials (Original post)
turbinetree Sep 13 OP
gopiscrap Sep 13 #1
turbinetree Sep 13 #2
gopiscrap Sep 13 #3
turbinetree Sep 13 #5
Honeycombe8 Sep 13 #8
ret5hd Sep 13 #21
Mr.Bill Sep 13 #4
Honeycombe8 Sep 13 #6
juxtaposed Sep 13 #10
SunSeeker Sep 13 #15
juxtaposed Sep 13 #19
SunSeeker Sep 13 #22
juxtaposed Sep 13 #23
SunSeeker Sep 13 #24
Honeycombe8 Sep 13 #18
juxtaposed Sep 13 #7
LS_Editor Sep 13 #9
Cadfael Sep 13 #11
turbinetree Sep 13 #12
MarcA Sep 13 #13
SunSeeker Sep 13 #14
mahatmakanejeeves Sep 13 #27
SunSeeker Sep 14 #30
byronius Sep 13 #16
laserhaas Sep 13 #17
bucolic_frolic Sep 13 #20
miyazaki Sep 13 #25
Best_man23 Sep 13 #26
Historic NY Sep 13 #28
Mosby Sep 14 #29
orleans Sep 14 #31

Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 04:02 PM

1. that's totally fucked up

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Response to gopiscrap (Reply #1)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 04:05 PM

2. No due process..none, just send a list and look at last names, that's what they are doing (example)

Lopez, Serena, Rafael, ....................and just send on over to ICE........................

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Response to turbinetree (Reply #2)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 04:09 PM

3. yeah I am pretty sure they haven't knocked on the door of a, say:

Smith, Jones, Johnson, O'Connell, Douglas, Collins...you get the picture

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Response to gopiscrap (Reply #3)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 04:12 PM

5. We are on the same page.............turning ICE into the gestapo ...........

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Response to turbinetree (Reply #2)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 04:15 PM

8. But MOST of the names in a low-rent motel in Phoenix would be Spanish,

I would think. So I don't see the point of that. They could just as easily look at the phone listings there and get the same info.

Unless the motel is a known place for newly arriving illegal immigrants. If so, would the motel want to lose customers?

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #8)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 05:46 PM

21. If somebody has paid for a week (getting a weekly rate)...

and they get deported after one night...well, just saying'.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 04:11 PM

4. Probably keeps the cops

from busting them for running a whorehouse.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 04:12 PM

6. That's odd. Unless it's a known place for newly arrived illegal immigrants...

what would be the point? There are so many people in AZ with Spanish names, it's a given that the guest list at a low-rate motel would be predominantly Spanish.

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #6)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 04:15 PM

10. That dosen't sound good

"it's a given that the guest list at a low-rate motel would be predominantly Spanish"?

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Response to juxtaposed (Reply #10)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 04:30 PM

15. The higher rate of poverty among people of color doesn't sound good indeed.

And it doesn't look good either -- for our country and world.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #15)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 04:34 PM

19. That's what I'm saying, That post has a racist tinge they should change it or delete it.

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Response to juxtaposed (Reply #19)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 07:25 PM

22. Well, I don't think the post is racist. It is just stating a fact for that area.

What is racist is ICE assuming they can search hotels' books for guests with Hispanic names, without a warrant.

The point is that Hispanic surnames are so common in that area among Motel 6 guests that there is no way ICE can argue that a guest having a Hispanic surname establishes probable cause for a potential immigration violation. Indeed, I would argue it could never, alone, establish probable cause.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #22)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 07:43 PM

23. It's racist. What type of hotels do the irish stay in?

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Response to juxtaposed (Reply #23)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 08:02 PM

24. You're putting words in the poster's mouth and are missing the point.

But since you brought up the Irish, this is like saying if the British military looking for IRA terrorists went to a Northern Ireland low cost motel and asked for a list of guest names, you should expect most of them to be Irish surnames. The ethnically Irish in Northern Ireland tend to be poorer than the English of Northern Ireland. Therefore, the list would be useless in identifying IRA terrorists. Much MUCH more is needed to establish probable cause under these facts, where a type of last name is common for that establishment, last names do not in and of themselves create a probability of a certain status.


Capiche?

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Response to juxtaposed (Reply #10)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 04:34 PM

18. I believe you'll find the stats show that in AZ, the hispanic workers make less $.

So they would not likely be staying at 4 star hotels.

I lived in Dallas, which has a large hispanic population, in an area that had a large hispanic population. Some...maybe many, I don't know, were here illegally and did not speak English. If you were to stay at a low-cost motel, most of the people staying there would be hispanic because (1) there's a large hispanic population; and (2) the hispanic population makes less money.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 04:13 PM

7. this reminds me of police snooping at library card histories

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 04:15 PM

9. That's a civil rights lawsuit coming.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 04:17 PM

11. So that's what they mean when they "leave the light on"

It's a secret code message to ICE to send in a round up.

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Response to Cadfael (Reply #11)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 04:18 PM

12. Motel Six..................

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 04:23 PM

13. Bravo to the front desk clerk who told the truth

Can't get the truth from the corporate or law enforcement
establishments because that is not in their business model.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 04:24 PM

14. Releasing names without permission is an invasion of privacy and violates the 4th Amendment.

A hotel is not supposed to give out the names of their guests, just like they are not supposed to give out their home addresses or credit card numbers. The police do not have a warrant for this information and are violating the 4th Am prohibition against unreasonable search and seizure. This is unbelievable.

The hotels appear to be doing this to every single guest, whether the hotel has observed them committing a crime or not: "'We send a report every morning to ICE — all the names of everybody that comes in,' a front-desk clerk told the paper." I would sue the shit out of Motel 6 for giving my name to ICE/cops.


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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #14)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 08:55 PM

27. The Fourth Amendment restricts what the government can do, not what Motel 6 can do. NT

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #27)

Thu Sep 14, 2017, 12:37 AM

30. Yes, counsel, that's why I said ICE/police is violating the 4th Amendment.

I didn't say the motel was violating the 4th Amendment.

But the motel probably did commit state law violations of various state consumer privacy protections like we have here in CA. And i could think of a few tort causes of action as well, to fill up my complaint against the motel. How about you, coumsel? Can you think of any causes of action against the motel?

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 04:31 PM

16. Aaaaaaaaand goodbye Motel 6.

Stupid, stupid, stupid.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 04:32 PM

17. Welcome to 1984

and 33 years of practice.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 04:43 PM

20. Information is like water

and authorities are always after it.

Ronald Reagan told you what to do. Disinformation. Plausible deniability.

Few listened. Or knew what it meant.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 08:28 PM

25. Should change their name to Motel Deep 6.

Fuckers.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 08:33 PM

26. Better to sleep in the car or a dumpster

Than stay at a Motel 6. Sad to say.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Wed Sep 13, 2017, 11:12 PM

28. Stasi

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Thu Sep 14, 2017, 12:01 AM

29. The motel 6 in the picture is on indian school rd west of I17.

Really bad neighborhood.

There is a 24 hour pot shop next door called the Urban Greenhouse, they have armed security at the entrance.







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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Thu Sep 14, 2017, 01:05 AM

31. and here's the update from the link


"UPDATE (10:32 PM): Motel 6 confirms that guest lists were shared with ICE and says the practice has now been discontinued."

(too late. damage done. fuck them.)

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