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Mon Sep 4, 2017, 03:46 PM

Man commits suicide after fatally shooting person by accident, police say

Source: CBS News

CBS NEWS September 4, 2017, 9:09 AM



An Indiana man committed suicide after fatally shooting another person by accident at a party Saturday evening, Hammond Police said.

CBS Chicago reports police responded to the 7100 block of Osborne Avenue around 9:30 p.m. for a report of a person being shot. The first officer arriving on the scene heard an additional gunshot while pulling up, police said.

Witnesses told police there had been a get-together that evening when an attendee, 31-year-old Bryan Carr of Hobart, Ind., accidentally shot another man, Jonathan Culp, 31, of Highland.

Carr attempted to administer first aid to Culp and then told witnesses he "could not live with what he had done" and shot himself, police said.

Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/man-commits-suicide-after-accidentally-shooting-person-at-party-police-say/

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Reply Man commits suicide after fatally shooting person by accident, police say (Original post)
Judi Lynn Sep 2017 OP
Exultant Democracy Sep 2017 #1
susanna Sep 2017 #43
Ilsa Sep 2017 #2
RhodeIslandOne Sep 2017 #4
Rollo Sep 2017 #3
PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2017 #5
Skittles Sep 2017 #19
PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2017 #40
Skittles Sep 2017 #41
PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2017 #42
The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2017 #6
Bradical79 Sep 2017 #7
Freedomofspeech Sep 2017 #8
TNNurse Sep 2017 #10
Kennah Sep 2017 #29
Aristus Sep 2017 #39
mdbl Sep 2017 #45
Bob Loblaw Sep 2017 #9
Judi Lynn Sep 2017 #11
Kennah Sep 2017 #30
truthisfreedom Sep 2017 #12
Judi Lynn Sep 2017 #15
demigoddess Sep 2017 #16
Kennah Sep 2017 #31
sarisataka Sep 2017 #36
susanna Sep 2017 #44
bucolic_frolic Sep 2017 #13
Squinch Sep 2017 #14
IronLionZion Sep 2017 #17
GulfCoast66 Sep 2017 #20
Squinch Sep 2017 #34
IronLionZion Sep 2017 #37
Honeycombe8 Sep 2017 #18
no_hypocrisy Sep 2017 #21
Demit Sep 2017 #23
no_hypocrisy Sep 2017 #24
Demit Sep 2017 #25
no_hypocrisy Sep 2017 #26
Demit Sep 2017 #28
Sucha NastyWoman Sep 2017 #46
Doc_Technical Sep 2017 #22
Kennah Sep 2017 #32
Not Ruth Sep 2017 #27
Kennah Sep 2017 #33
Sunlei Sep 2017 #35
FakeNoose Sep 2017 #38

Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Sep 4, 2017, 03:58 PM

1. I'm sure he was a responsible gun owner, just up until he wasn't.

Trigger locks with breathalyzer. Only the evil and the idiotic think our free for all guns for everyone all the time system works.

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Response to Exultant Democracy (Reply #1)

Tue Sep 5, 2017, 03:44 AM

43. In agreement.

In my opinion, the majority of guns in the US are bullshit posturing for people who want others to take them seriously because they feel disregarded in some way in their day-to-day life. (Which we all do, so not sure why those who carry need a gun to feel better.)

Sounds like the guy who killed first in this article was a "tough guy" up to, and until he realized, what he had actually done with his power tool. So then he used it on himself?

So now, two families are grieving.

For what?

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Sep 4, 2017, 03:59 PM

2. So sad, so unnecessary.

I wonder if anyone was staying with him, keeping watch over him.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #2)

Mon Sep 4, 2017, 04:10 PM

4. It sounds like he shot himself almost as soon as the other guy died right then and there

The cult of guns rolls on.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Sep 4, 2017, 04:03 PM

3. And yet I've seen conservatives claim that swimming pools are just as dangerous as handguns...

Go figure...

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Sep 4, 2017, 04:13 PM

5. I can only conclude the man

believed in the death penalty, and decided to save the legal system some time and money.

Of course, without the guns in the first place, those two men would still be alive.

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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #5)

Mon Sep 4, 2017, 06:45 PM

19. or maybe he was just extremely distraught

and the availability of the gun helped him make yet another bad decision

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Response to Skittles (Reply #19)

Mon Sep 4, 2017, 11:23 PM

40. And of course, guns make us all safer, right?

In this case, everyone else is now safe from that man, so that's a positive thing.

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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #40)

Tue Sep 5, 2017, 01:48 AM

41. both the deaths were needless and tragic

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Response to Skittles (Reply #41)

Tue Sep 5, 2017, 01:56 AM

42. I know.

I probably should have used the sarcasm thingie.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Sep 4, 2017, 04:21 PM

6. The article doesn't say whether alcohol was involved. But I bet it was.

Sad story.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Sep 4, 2017, 04:24 PM

7. Tragic all around -nt

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Sep 4, 2017, 04:35 PM

8. Why do you take a gun to a party?

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Response to Freedomofspeech (Reply #8)

Mon Sep 4, 2017, 04:54 PM

10. There are those people who go everywhere armed.

They think they are safer or everyone else is safer or out to get him.

Also it makes them look tough.

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Response to Freedomofspeech (Reply #8)

Mon Sep 4, 2017, 08:13 PM

29. Only way to stop a bad snack ... (n/t)

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Response to Freedomofspeech (Reply #8)

Mon Sep 4, 2017, 10:17 PM

39. These gun idiots take their heat to the grocery store, for Pete's sake.

Jumping at shadows like the cowards they are...

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Response to Freedomofspeech (Reply #8)

Tue Sep 5, 2017, 06:19 AM

45. why I no longer attend parties

here below the mason dixon line everyone thinks guns should accompany them to a baptism. I think I'll just stay home.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Sep 4, 2017, 04:54 PM

9. I'm confused

Was he the bad guy with a gun or the good guy with a gun? What a senseless tragedy.

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Response to Bob Loblaw (Reply #9)

Mon Sep 4, 2017, 05:03 PM

11. Good question! Maybe the one good guy briefly confused the other good guy with a bad guy! n/t

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Response to Bob Loblaw (Reply #9)

Mon Sep 4, 2017, 08:14 PM

30. One man show. He had both roles covered. (n/t)

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Sep 4, 2017, 05:04 PM

12. Sorry people, I don't find any humor in this.

The whole thing is just tragic to me.

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Response to truthisfreedom (Reply #12)

Mon Sep 4, 2017, 05:25 PM

15. You've arrived at a hasty, inaccurate conclusion if you imagine these people are actually laughing.

It might help to take time to think things through before undervaluing your fellow human DU'er posters.

Jumping to inaccurate conclusions is never helpful.

People who undervalue other people's lives are probably the ones who feel the need to "pack heat" wherever they go.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Reply #15)

Mon Sep 4, 2017, 05:39 PM

16. I agree. I never understood why people feel safer with such a dangerous object in the

area. It is especially dangerous when left lying about and when idiots pass it around just to look at it but leave it loaded. One thing that people do not know about history is that our ancestors did not all run around armed. A lot of people in the old days never owned or touched guns. Only people on the frontier and then not forever. Our great and great great grandparents might never have shot guns so why do they have to be all over in the 21st century?

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Response to truthisfreedom (Reply #12)

Mon Sep 4, 2017, 08:15 PM

31. Just one of many stories where one might engage in morgue humor to get through (n/t)

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Response to truthisfreedom (Reply #12)

Mon Sep 4, 2017, 09:41 PM

36. They were

Just ammosexuals




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Response to truthisfreedom (Reply #12)

Tue Sep 5, 2017, 03:51 AM

44. Of course it's tragic.

As is our entire gun culture.

I don't see anyone laughing here, to be honest; I see people at long last explaining that this was a foregone conclusion when the NRA went full crazy, a long, long time ago.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Sep 4, 2017, 05:05 PM

13. Is it a war of attrition?

not much human progress since Verdun?

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Sep 4, 2017, 05:12 PM

14. I think this would seriously be my reaction. I don't think I would be able to live with that.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Sep 4, 2017, 05:46 PM

17. What kind of enemies do people have?

that they need to always carry a gun to defend themselves at a party

I hear much more about accidental shootings of friends and family and very few about a hero stopping a bad guy.

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #17)

Mon Sep 4, 2017, 06:55 PM

20. Get real, man!

Everyone knows there are people of color lurking everywhere waiting to pounce...

Don't you watch Fox?






Hopefully not needed but these days you never know.

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #20)

Mon Sep 4, 2017, 08:34 PM

34. For a long time there was a lot of discussion here about random guns in shrubbery. The thought

seemed to be that children were in grave danger of finding these discarded guns and hurting themselves.

That's the reason a lot of our dear gungeoneers gave to say that gun safety HAD to be taught in schools.

So, you know, people really need to be careful about those shrubbery guns.

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #20)

Mon Sep 4, 2017, 10:08 PM

37. I'm the one who knocks!



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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Sep 4, 2017, 06:17 PM

18. So sad. nt

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Sep 4, 2017, 07:31 PM

21. He didn't have the fortitude to remain alive to have contrition and the

ability to try to make retribution for his mistake.

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Response to no_hypocrisy (Reply #21)

Mon Sep 4, 2017, 07:46 PM

23. You don't think he showed contrition??

 

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Response to Demit (Reply #23)

Mon Sep 4, 2017, 07:48 PM

24. Contrition in the form of wanting to live to

offer to help his victim's family and others. I've considered suicide in the past for transgressions and decided it wasn't helping anyone but myself with guilt versus contrition.

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Response to no_hypocrisy (Reply #24)

Mon Sep 4, 2017, 07:55 PM

25. That only sounds like you wanted him to suffer more, by living.

 

The family might feel differently, of course, but off the top of my head I can't see how his staying alive would help them.

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Response to Demit (Reply #25)

Mon Sep 4, 2017, 08:01 PM

26. Redemption is a powerful thing.

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Response to no_hypocrisy (Reply #26)

Mon Sep 4, 2017, 08:03 PM

28. So is ending your life out of remorse.

 

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Response to Demit (Reply #23)

Tue Sep 5, 2017, 10:33 AM

46. I agree that the post is nonsense

A person very close to me accidentally ran over and killed my brother while being reckless with a car. No gun was involved, and mostlikely no drugs or alcohol. He felt so bad that he ran from the scene, found an empty garage, and hung himself. He was an honorable person who couldn't live with what he did. Tragic, and a waste, but I can empathize with how he must have felt.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Sep 4, 2017, 07:38 PM

22. They carry guns to protect themselves

from some evil government agent who is going
to take his gun.

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Response to Doc_Technical (Reply #22)

Mon Sep 4, 2017, 08:16 PM

32. I believe you misspelled gumint (n/t)

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Sep 4, 2017, 08:02 PM

27. I doubt that it was an accident

 

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Response to Not Ruth (Reply #27)

Mon Sep 4, 2017, 08:17 PM

33. If lightning struck the gun, and it fired, that would be an accident. This was negligence. (n/t)

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Sep 4, 2017, 09:29 PM

35. now two families & all their friends suffer through the worse time of their lives.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Mon Sep 4, 2017, 10:17 PM

38. Anybody who brings a gun to a Saturday night social gathering

... is going to the wrong kind of parties. I feel bad for the innocent victim and his family.

If a gun owner can't prevent accidents from happening, then he or she has no business owning a gun. No amount of remorse will bring this innocent man's life back. Guns should be locked up in a safe with a key that's also locked up in a different room. Ammunition should be locked up separately in a different room. There should be no possibility for an accident to ever happen. Anything else is negligence.



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