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Sat Aug 12, 2017, 08:53 PM

Charlottesville Car Crash Suspect ID'd

Source: CNN

(CNN)The suspect being held in a Virginia jail in connection with a deadly crash near a scheduled rally of white nationalists has been identified as James Alex Fields Jr., 20, of Maumee, Ohio, according to Superintendent Martin Kumer with the Albermarle-Charlottesville County Regional Jail . Fields is being held on suspicion of second-degree murder, malicious wounding and failure to stop in an accident that resulted in death.

Developing story - more to come

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/12/us/charlottesville-car-crash-suspect-idd/index.html



20-year old white male from outside of Toledo, Ohio.

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Reply Charlottesville Car Crash Suspect ID'd (Original post)
George II Aug 12 OP
Stuart G Aug 12 #1
sandensea Aug 12 #2
flibbitygiblets Aug 12 #10
sandensea Aug 12 #14
Marthe48 Aug 12 #23
Laffy Kat Aug 12 #3
Bernardo de La Paz Aug 12 #4
Doc Coco Aug 12 #16
Bernardo de La Paz Aug 12 #17
Doc Coco Aug 12 #19
ToxMarz Aug 12 #6
The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 12 #7
Warpy Aug 12 #15
radical noodle Aug 12 #5
marybourg Aug 12 #9
Princess Turandot Aug 12 #12
radical noodle Aug 13 #30
question everything Aug 12 #8
mtngirl47 Aug 12 #18
llmart Aug 13 #35
yardwork Aug 13 #37
Bradical79 Aug 13 #45
TheCowsCameHome Aug 12 #11
arithia Aug 12 #13
ToxMarz Aug 12 #20
keithbvadu2 Aug 12 #21
hamsterjill Aug 12 #22
Julian Englis Aug 12 #24
Julian Englis Aug 13 #25
madamesilverspurs Aug 13 #26
The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 13 #27
suffragette Aug 13 #28
SharonClark Aug 13 #29
Judi Lynn Aug 13 #31
yardwork Aug 13 #38
du_grad Aug 13 #32
Kablooie Aug 13 #33
muriel_volestrangler Aug 13 #34
Yonnie3 Aug 13 #39
hexola Aug 13 #40
Yonnie3 Aug 13 #41
Kablooie Aug 13 #42
hexola Aug 13 #43
hexola Aug 13 #44
Yonnie3 Aug 13 #46
DeminPennswoods Aug 13 #36

Response to George II (Original post)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 08:58 PM

1. k and r...nt

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Response to sandensea (Reply #2)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 09:17 PM

10. Looks like his FB page is no longer available.

We'll surely get a mugshot soon enough though. I want to see the face of someone who hates strangers enough to do something like this.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Reply #10)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 09:28 PM

14. I hope Rachel or someone else can somehow retrieve it through the cache.

She's managed that before. Her show this Monday will be a big one.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Reply #10)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 11:21 PM

23. There was a pic on a LBN post

also google James Alex Fields, jr age 20 Maumee Oh.

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Response to George II (Original post)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 09:03 PM

3. Why second-degree murder?

Don't you start at the top and mitigate down? I don't understand.

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Response to Laffy Kat (Reply #3)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 09:06 PM

4. Probably did not intend to kill specifically the victim. Can always upgrade charge to first.


Second degree easier to prove than first.

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #4)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 09:34 PM

16. I think it is going to be upgraded now.

 

3 people killed, enhanced by hate crimes. It is a capital crime now.

May $DIETY have mercy on his soul.

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Response to Doc Coco (Reply #16)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 09:38 PM

17. Two of those died in an unrelated helicopter crash. . . nt

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #17)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 09:40 PM

19. Ah. Maybe that's it.

 

Too many shit going on over there.

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Response to Laffy Kat (Reply #3)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 09:09 PM

6. They can add/upgrade charges later. This is probably just the opening act.

Doesn't look good to later downgrade charges, then they are accused of being overzealous or politically motivated.

Also potential for Federal charges I assume. Terrorism would be Federal I believe.

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Response to Laffy Kat (Reply #3)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 09:11 PM

7. Depends on the law of the state, but in my state (Minnesota)

you have to charge first-degree murder by grand jury indictment; and so the initial charge is almost always going to be second-degree murder, by complaint. It can get upgraded by indictment later if the evidence supports it.

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Response to Laffy Kat (Reply #3)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 09:32 PM

15. Other charges are hate crime and terrorism

and down through assault with a deadly weapon and so on and so forth.

Saying it was any kind of an accident is going to be a hard sell, even in the south.

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Response to George II (Original post)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 09:06 PM

5. What happened to criminal homicide?

Isn't that what they said in the news conference?

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Response to radical noodle (Reply #5)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 09:16 PM

9. Different states have different naming systems.

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Response to radical noodle (Reply #5)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 09:20 PM

12. Second degree murder is a category of criminal homicide...

and is likely the most serious charge available in the state, other than first degree murder.

There are other lesser offenses that are also considered 'criminal homicide' so this is not somehow a downgrading of the charges, if that is your concern.

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Response to Princess Turandot (Reply #12)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 12:51 AM

30. Thanks!

Yes, I was concerned that he would whine his way out of it somehow.

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Response to George II (Original post)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 09:12 PM

8. Ohio? I admit when I watched the clip I was thinking of lynching blacks this way

or worse. I was wondering whether the driver was from the deep south who reveled in reliving the "old stories."


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Response to question everything (Reply #8)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 09:38 PM

18. I know many right wing extremists from Ohio and other mid-western states.

I know a nut case from Oregon who is constantly trying to save the confederate flag (not sure what that's about!)

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Response to question everything (Reply #8)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 08:28 AM

35. Apparently you aren't familiar with southern Ohio...

it's loaded with racists and trump voters. I know he's not from southern Ohio (Kentucky I believe), but parts of southern Ohio might as well be in the south. I'm from NE Ohio and we always disowned most of southern Ohio because of their backwoods mentality. I have a female relative who's 79 years old who grew up in W. Virginia but has lived in Ohio for most of her life and she still uses the "n" word. She's also passed that lovely trait down to her two hateful "children" who are in their 50's.

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Response to llmart (Reply #35)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 11:59 AM

37. Actually, his mother said that they just moved from Kentucky.

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Response to llmart (Reply #35)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 02:14 PM

45. I live on the edge of Columbus

and we still get people in my store occasionaly using slurs, usually driving in from a bit north. Dealt with a guy that was starting to get violent a few days ago.

The KKK had a huge presence in Ohio at one time, and this year stated they wanted to make a new push into Ohio.

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Response to George II (Original post)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 09:17 PM

11. Can't wait to see his picture.

I have an image in my mind.....

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Response to arithia (Reply #13)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 10:07 PM

20. Oh god, he has Sarah Palin's eyeglasses

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Response to George II (Original post)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 10:11 PM

21. Accident?

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Response to George II (Original post)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 10:13 PM

22. That's a hell of a lot of hate to pack into 20 years.

I hope they throw the book at this jerk for one of the most cowardly acts I've ever seen.

I am sick of this shit.

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Sun Aug 13, 2017, 12:13 AM

25. At what Madrasah was this terrorist radicalized? Which Iman did this terrorist follow?

Wait--maybe it was Breitbart and Bannon who radicalized this man.

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Response to George II (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 12:18 AM

26. According to Betty Bowers, America's Best Christian,

he was radicalized by one Donald J. Trump.


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Response to George II (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 12:19 AM

27. The Southern Poverty Law Center already has more info on him:

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2017/08/12/charlottesville-driver-who-killed-one-rallied-alt-right-vanguard-america-group

While speculation still surrounds Fields’ motives, available photography appears to show Fields present at the UTR event with members of Vanguard America, a racist right wing organization that helped Kessler organize the event.

The banner image of a Facebook page that appears to belong to Fields features the Othela rune, popular among Neo-Nazis and the far right.




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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #27)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 12:32 AM

28. They are likely scrubbing every communication with him that they can now.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #27)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 12:33 AM

29. Looks like 2 rolling pins in a pie plate.

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Response to SharonClark (Reply #29)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 12:58 AM

31. True! Probably loves him some pe-can pah. n/t

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #27)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 12:04 PM

38. This helps to show intent, which is important to prosecution.

In order to convince a jury, the DA needs to show that he intended to cause harm to others. His defense will be that he was attacked and that he panicked.

Good for SPLC to find and publicize these photos.

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Response to George II (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 01:36 AM

33. It's being reported that Police don't think it was intentional.

They are already defending their precious white man.

They say he was scared by the protesters.

They are trying to protect him before any facts are known.
Whoever these police are should be removed from service.

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Response to Kablooie (Reply #33)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 03:34 AM

34. He sped down a crowded street for a hundred yards or more

There's video of him doing that. There's no way they can call it "not intentional" without outing themselves as white supremacists.

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Response to Kablooie (Reply #33)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 01:18 PM

39. Where is it being reported? Link?

The Charlottesville police have repeatedly stated they are treating this as a homicide and this is their jurisdiction. To my knowledge, they have made absolutely no statements about him other than his regarding his arrest, identity, and a list of charges.

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Response to Yonnie3 (Reply #39)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 01:21 PM

40. One nut job...Taylor something or other

Nothing to see - right wing nut

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Response to hexola (Reply #40)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 01:35 PM

41. Thanks

It is not something I can imagine coming from CPD.

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Response to Yonnie3 (Reply #39)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 01:50 PM

42. It was in the hill.com

I don't have the a link at the moment.
I think the article was by Taylor lorenz

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Response to Kablooie (Reply #42)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 01:58 PM

43. Yep thats the name

This report was being referenced at FreeRepublic as they tried to find an non-existent rationale for the terrorism/murder

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Response to Kablooie (Reply #33)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 02:00 PM

44. Im sure he was scared of the protesters AFTER impact!

Had they got hold of him - it might not be pretty.

Hence his hasty retreat...Im sure he was scared.

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Response to Kablooie (Reply #33)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 07:08 PM

46. I spent some time on looking for any report of this.

No luck. If it truly happened, relentless public pressure will be applied to that individual or department.

We have enough trouble here without such incendiary allegations.

I am still waiting for any real information. Link, name of police, etc.

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Response to George II (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 10:44 AM

36. Today, the group he was hanging out with,

Vanguard America, disavowed any knowledge of Fields, Jr's existence via twitter. You'd think they'd be proud of a member who actually managed to kill and injure "the enemy". I guess they're scared of being named as co-conspirators in a homicide and going to jail.

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