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UPDATED Trump Lawyer Blames Secret Service For Not Preemptively Stopping Jr.'s Meeting

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Source: Talking Points Memo


By ESME CRIBB Published JULY 16, 2017 9:59 AM

Jay Sekulow, a member of President Donald Trump’s legal team, on Sunday aired a new defense for Donald Trump Jr.’s meeting with a Russian lawyer who promised him damaging information on Hillary Clinton: The Secret Service should not have “allowed these people in” to meet with Trump’s eldest son.

“I wonder why the Secret Service, if this was nefarious, why the Secret Service allowed these people in,” Sekulow said on ABC’s “This Week,” referring to Trump’s protection detail as the Republican candidate. “The President had Secret Service protection at that point, and that raised a question with me.”

Trump Jr. arranged the meeting with Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya after he was promised compromising information on Hillary Clinton as part of a Russian state effort to aid his father’s campaign.

Sekulow said he had not talked to Trump about whether the President would eliminate the possibility of pardoning associates caught up in the federal investigation into possible collusion between members of Trump’s campaign and Russian officials to interfere in the 2016 election.

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Trump Lawyer On Russia Meeting: POTUS Wasn’t There And Didn’t Know Anything

By ESME CRIBB Published JULY 16, 2017 10:17 AM

A member of President Donald Trump’s legal team on Sunday insisted that Trump knew nothing about and did not attend his eldest son’s meeting with a Russian lawyer who promised alleged damaging information on Hillary Clinton as part of a Russian state effort to help Trump’s campaign.

Asked on NBC News’ “Meet the Press” if he knew the names of everyone who attended Trump Jr.’s meeting with Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya, Jay Sekulow said he did not and went on to insist unprompted that Trump was not among their number.

“I don’t represent Donald Trump Jr. and I do not know everyone for sure that was at that meeting and the President was not at the meeting,” Sekulow said. “I can tell you he was not there. The President was not aware of the meeting and did not attend it.”

Sekulow said Trump “became aware of it very recently” and that he learned of the meeting “about the same time, almost exactly the same time.”

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Reply UPDATED Trump Lawyer Blames Secret Service For Not Preemptively Stopping Jr.'s Meeting (Original post)
DonViejo Jul 2017 OP
CincyDem Jul 2017 #1
thesquanderer Jul 2017 #10
The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #29
Grins Jul 2017 #47
Beartracks Jul 2017 #54
Grins Jul 2017 #58
Turbineguy Jul 2017 #2
pangaia Jul 2017 #21
cstanleytech Jul 2017 #38
pangaia Jul 2017 #39
cstanleytech Jul 2017 #41
Turbineguy Jul 2017 #61
jmowreader Jul 2017 #42
PatSeg Jul 2017 #3
William Seger Jul 2017 #16
PatSeg Jul 2017 #32
MBS Jul 2017 #56
Glimmer of Hope Jul 2017 #62
MBS Jul 2017 #63
PatSeg Jul 2017 #64
MBS Jul 2017 #65
PatSeg Jul 2017 #67
JohnQFunk Jul 2017 #4
rzemanfl Jul 2017 #5
Moostache Jul 2017 #7
ananda Jul 2017 #6
exboyfil Jul 2017 #8
OnDoutside Jul 2017 #48
WePurrsevere Jul 2017 #9
central scrutinizer Jul 2017 #45
WePurrsevere Jul 2017 #49
Archae Jul 2017 #11
FreeStateDemocrat Jul 2017 #22
Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #12
Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #13
NCjack Jul 2017 #14
Jim__ Jul 2017 #15
C_U_L8R Jul 2017 #17
CanonRay Jul 2017 #18
pangaia Jul 2017 #19
iloveObama12 Jul 2017 #20
NastyRiffraff Jul 2017 #23
avebury Jul 2017 #30
JHan Jul 2017 #55
rurallib Jul 2017 #24
FailureToCommunicate Jul 2017 #25
The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #26
SHRED Jul 2017 #27
The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #40
lunasun Jul 2017 #28
The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #31
lunasun Jul 2017 #34
The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2017 #35
ThoughtCriminal Jul 2017 #33
Sunlei Jul 2017 #36
Nitram Jul 2017 #37
christx30 Jul 2017 #43
Paladin Jul 2017 #44
joanbarnes Jul 2017 #46
OnDoutside Jul 2017 #50
MFM008 Jul 2017 #51
ollie10 Jul 2017 #52
True Dough Jul 2017 #53
louis-t Jul 2017 #57
mr_lebowski Jul 2017 #59
Yonnie3 Jul 2017 #60
sofa king Jul 2017 #66

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 09:22 AM

1. Everything is always someone else's fault.



Classic malignant narcissistic behavior...internalize any perception of success and externalize any perception of imperfection.

Time to call the Whammmmmmbulance for DJT.

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Response to CincyDem (Reply #1)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 09:36 AM

10. Well, that's pretty much his job.

Any lawyer basically only says two things when representing someone in a potentially criminal activity...

either

(a) it didn't happen,

or, if it did,

(b) it was someone else's fault.

That sums up their job.

(That said, blaming the Secret Service sounds absurd.)

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Response to thesquanderer (Reply #10)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 10:45 AM

29. But it works better if the excuses aren't weapons-grade stupid.

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Response to CincyDem (Reply #1)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 12:26 PM

47. I think you mean it's ALWAYS Obama's fault.

Boston Marathon, Ebola, Jade Helm, Chemtrails? All Obama's fault.

Information that came from Bush's torture policy? Obama's Fault (Liz Cheney).
Putin? Obama's fault (Rep. Alan West.)
The rise of Trump? Obama; because he "lowered the bar" (Noonan).
Cardinal Ross Douthat: Barack Obama and liberalism are to blame - for Trump.
Trump's rise? Obama's fault (Bobby Jindal.)
Katrina? Obama's fault.
Failing To Pass DREAM Act that Romney pledged to veto? Obama's fault (Romney Adviser Carlos Gutierrez.)
And on, and on, and on.....

And this will hold true until the next Democrat moves into the White House.

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Response to Grins (Reply #47)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 01:31 PM

54. Didn't someone also blame 9/11 on Pres. Obama?

... Which, like Katrina, was way before he was even on the national scene or in the Oval Office.

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Response to Beartracks (Reply #54)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 02:10 PM

58. Yes!

Yes!! And good catch.

Day-time Dracula, Rudy "9-11" Ghouliani blamed Barack Obama for 9/11 at the Republican Convention last August. But he went a mile further and added (Brace yourself!!!):

"...under those eight years, before Obama came along, we didn't have ANY successful radical Islamic terrorist attack in the United States. They ALL STARTED when Clinton and Obama got into office."

Can't think of ONE, Mr. Mayor? One....?

From The Daily Show at that same convention:
Trump supporter at Ohio rally: "Barack Obama had a big part in 9/11. Not being around, always on vacation, never in the office."

Interviewer: "Why do you think Barack Obama wasn't in the Oval Office on 9/11?"

Trump supporter: "That I don't know. I'd like to get to bottom of that."

Idiots.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 09:24 AM

2. This Sekulow guy sounds like

the Colonel Klink of the operation. Does he play violin too?

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Response to Turbineguy (Reply #2)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 10:16 AM

21. Violin??

Violin?

Please delete your post.
It is offensive to great violinists.

Such as Kyung-Why Chung
Gidon Kremer
Vadim Repin
Sayaka Shoji
Itzhak Perman
Maxim Vengerov

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Response to pangaia (Reply #21)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 11:13 AM

38. Actually Klemperer was an excellent violinist in real life as well as playing the piano. nt

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #38)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 11:15 AM

39. I didn't know that...

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Response to pangaia (Reply #39)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 11:17 AM

41. Yup, it always makes me laugh when I see him spoofing Klinks bad

playing.

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #38)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 02:32 PM

61. Which explains why

he was so incredibly good at playing so badly as Klink.

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Response to Turbineguy (Reply #2)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 11:25 AM

42. He plays fiddle while Trump burns Rome. Does that count?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 09:24 AM

3. Where did this Bozo get his law degree?

Trump University? Did he just admit Junior's guilt and blame it on the Secret Service?

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #3)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 09:47 AM

16. Same guy who said Trump is and isn't under investigation

... and TrumpCo is too stupid to keep him away from cameras.

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Response to William Seger (Reply #16)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 10:51 AM

32. Oh yeah

"Let me make one thing perfectly clear, the president isn't under investigation", right after he said Trump was under investigation three times! Stupid seems to magnetize stupid.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #3)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 01:54 PM

56. here's his wikipedia page

Bizarre career and life-course, IMO
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Sekulow

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Response to MBS (Reply #56)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 04:20 PM

62. What a scumbag.

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Response to Glimmer of Hope (Reply #62)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 05:08 PM

63. oh, yeah.

Nutcase, too.

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Response to MBS (Reply #56)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 11:28 PM

64. So many of the people

in Trump world come across as characters out of a book or movie. Even then they'd be too far-fetched to believe.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #64)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 08:49 AM

65. oh, yes, exactly!

You managed to put into words my own still-vague impression about this cast of characters (the closest I'd gotten to a simile was the motley and bizarre bar clientele in the first Star Wars movie).

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Response to MBS (Reply #65)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 10:24 AM

67. Ha, ha, ha

Yeah, that will work, though the Star Wars characters would be more believable!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 09:25 AM

4. The Secret Service's job is to protect Trump, not baby-sit him!

Sekulow sounded like an idiot. Trump did not choose wisely.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 09:26 AM

5. I have it on excellent authoritiy the blame lies with Otis.

They should not allow Russian spies to operate their elevators. SAD!

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Response to rzemanfl (Reply #5)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 09:29 AM

7. I think you have the right name....Otis....but this one:



He seems to fit the cut of a "Trump man"...

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 09:27 AM

6. Umm.. because that's not the Secret Service's job...

Seriously malignant idiocy reigns, along with a lot of
chaos, hate and fear ... and here we are, talking
about it.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 09:31 AM

8. I quite possibly think that is the most

stupid thing a lawyer has ever said.

By that same reasoning why the hell would the Secret Service allow Trump be in the room with Putin without protection. Former KGB with a body count to match.

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Response to exboyfil (Reply #8)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 12:27 PM

48. He has to pitch it to Trump's extremely stupid support.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 09:31 AM

9. Pfft! It doesn't matter if or why the Secret Service "allowed" this...

I'm pretty sure that their job is merely to protect the people they're assigned to from 'physical' attacks not to protect them from themselves when they 'choose' to be a stupid traitor in a private 'business' meeting.

Even 'if' their job was to stop you from being a traitor and they failed at that, it doesn't make YOU any less guilty of being a friggin TRAITOR.

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Response to WePurrsevere (Reply #9)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 12:13 PM

45. If it was a nothing burger meeting

Why would the SS feel the need to stop it? So is this a back door admission that it was an illegal, substantive meeting?

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Response to central scrutinizer (Reply #45)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 01:08 PM

49. They wouldn't. It's normally not the job...

of the SS to stop what 'appears' to be a normal biz meeting.

I suppose that it's also possible that the SS was working with another IC to uncover something but from what I've heard that would be unique.

The quasi-admission that it was illegal comes from trying to deny that it happened, then lying about why when more came out more and continuing to blatantly lie about the whole damn thing. People who believe that they're truly innocent don't act like this.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 09:39 AM

11. Don't forget who this lawyer is...

Jay Sekulow.

Pat Robertson's liar for Jay-zus for decades.

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Response to Archae (Reply #11)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 10:22 AM

22. You bet, Jay-boy has a Ph.D. from Regent U...

Regent University is a private Christian research university[4] located in Virginia Beach, Virginia, United States. The university was founded by Pat Robertson in 1977 as Christian Broadcasting Network University, and changed its name to Regent University in 1990.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regent_University

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 09:40 AM

12. SecServ NOT in business of interfering w elections. Republicons outsource that to Putin. . . . nt

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 09:41 AM

13. IF the SecServ had stopped it, Republicons would still be howling about it today. . . nt

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 09:42 AM

14. Perhaps this accusation is just enough to cause a critical 1 second

involuntary hesitation (Question to self: "do I really have to save this asshole?) in leaping in front of Jr. to stop a bullet.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 09:46 AM

15. Undoubtedly a plot hatched by Obama and Hillary.

Both of them acting in cahoots with Putin. Oh, the injustice of it all!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 09:55 AM

17. Throwing the Secret Service under the bus

to cover your own misdeeds
sure seems like a risky strategy.


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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 09:58 AM

18. Now that's one of the stupidest cop-outs I've heard.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 10:10 AM

19. Well, they also allow dumpster into the white house. so there is that..

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 10:12 AM

20. These clowns...

Lying their asses off

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 10:27 AM

23. Seth Abramson on Sekulow:

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Response to NastyRiffraff (Reply #23)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 10:48 AM

30. Oh that is a good one.

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Response to NastyRiffraff (Reply #23)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 01:44 PM

55. lolololol

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 10:28 AM

24. Sounding like Otter in his walk out speech in Animal House

paraphrasing
'In the end isn't all of America to blame for this poor boy going astray?'

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 10:39 AM

25. Darn tooting. And why did the Secret Service let Lincoln get shot?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 10:43 AM

26. That's not the Secret Service's job. And even if it was,

why did Jr. have the meeting in the first place?

"It's all the fault of the police! Why didn't they stop me *before* I robbed the bank?"

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 10:43 AM

27. Jimmy McGill could do better

Better call Saul!

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Response to SHRED (Reply #27)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 11:17 AM

40. Much better. Jimmy is ethically challenged but not stupid.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 10:43 AM

28. Turning on the secret service hmmmm. What will that get the trump family?

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Response to lunasun (Reply #28)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 10:49 AM

31. Although they are professionals who understand what the job requires,

I have to wonder whether they sometimes think, "I have to take a bullet for this douche?"

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #31)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 10:55 AM

34. True I wasn't trying to insinuate they were revengeful thugs like the Trumps

Just it will get the trumps no respect from them . Perhaps none of them have any for the trumps after 6 months anyway and these comments from the lawyer are no surprise to them

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Response to lunasun (Reply #34)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 10:59 AM

35. I understand that, didn't mean to suggest otherwise.

But the obligation to protect a bunch of dirtbags like the Trumps can't be good for their morale.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 10:54 AM

33. Once again, "The Party of Personal Responsibility"

"Shoplifting was not my fault. Daddy let me go into the store."

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 11:00 AM

36. A Lawyer only says what his client tells him. trump supervises _everything_ his gang does.

Republican party is responsible for their presidents espionage & Russian collusion. They knew about the meeting.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 11:03 AM

37. LOL! Is that all he's got?

I've been listening to Sekulow today. He is a piece of work. I'm sure he's worth every penny he's being paid to lie, obfuscate and misdirect.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 11:58 AM

43. "If robbing that bank was so wrong,

why didn't any of the tellers stop me? Huh?! Motion to dismiss."

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 12:04 PM

44. Sekulow better rejoin his family in fleecing fundamentalists on TV.

That's his true and vastly profitable calling. If he's reduced to trashing the Secret Service by way of defending trump, he's clearly spiraling downward.....

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 12:26 PM

46. Wait, I thought there was nothing wrong with these meetings?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 01:09 PM

50. Maybe the secret service should have stopped the Russian

Foreign Minister and the rest of the GRU from entering the Oval Office ?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 01:12 PM

51. They should have

Kept maggot and all his spawn OUT of the Oval office.
SAD.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 01:22 PM

52. Did Junior, or anyone else in the Trump family call the Secret Service or FBI?

I didn't think so

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 01:27 PM

53. It's now becoming routine

to spout the idea that the Trumps need to be saved from themselves because they know not what they do, being new to the political process and all (not to mention morally corrupt and self-serving).

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 02:08 PM

57. That's Dum Dum's job now.

Looking for people to blame for his family's stupidity.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 02:21 PM

59. The unspoken assertion, have no doubt ... why didn't OBAMA'S Secret Service stop it ...

Once again, the Pukes resort to their favorite fallback ... It's teh BLACK'S FAULT!!!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 02:25 PM

60. Years ago I read something to the effect of "don't just make enemies, choose them wisely"

If I were President, I don't think I would want to malign the Secret Service.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 09:38 AM

66. Still waiting for the "stuck elevator" story to come back around.

At the time I pointed out that I thought the Secret Service deliberately stalled the elevator and gave the Trump campaign a stern talking-to about the Russian meetings. Now that they're playing the "blame Obama" card, we can expect the former President to drop that microphone, at his convenience.

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