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Sat Jul 15, 2017, 04:49 PM

Leaked draft of Rick Perry grid study debunks his attack on renewable energy

Source: Think Progress

Back in April, Energy Secretary Rick Perry ordered a study to back up his claims that solar and wind power were undermining the U.S. electric grid’s reliability.

That’s why it was a surprise when Bloomberg reported Friday that a July draft leaked to them concluded essentially the opposite: “The power system is more reliable today due to better planning, market discipline, and better operating rules and standards.”

The leaked draft was completed by Department of Energy (DOE) career staff, however, and thus subject to change by Perry and his team of Trump appointees. So the big question is whether the Trump administration will erase those findings in the final draft, the way they appear to be erasing so many other inconvenient truths.

Read more: https://thinkprogress.org/leaked-rick-perry-grid-study-9bce98a50f70



I guess so..........................what else can happen, they lie here, they lie there, whats a little lying.................





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turbinetree Jul 15 OP
BumRushDaShow Jul 15 #1
Hortensis Jul 15 #2
MyOwnPeace Jul 15 #3
Finishline42 Jul 16 #4
SWBTATTReg Jul 16 #5
Hestia Jul 16 #6
SWBTATTReg Jul 17 #7

Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Sat Jul 15, 2017, 05:41 PM

1. They will probably not release that at all

and will request that "more data" be obtained.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Sat Jul 15, 2017, 05:49 PM

2. Suggests the fearful right is nervous about the grid, in spite

of enormously funded years of denial, and needs to be reassured.

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Response to turbinetree (Original post)

Sat Jul 15, 2017, 08:01 PM

3. The way it goes.......

we're told what the 1% (aka: Money barons) want us to know and we should be happy with them letting us pay them to enrich their money bags (and NOBODY in out government willing to help us or stop it!).

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Response to MyOwnPeace (Reply #3)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 02:24 AM

4. Small businesses and Residential customers are the baseload for utilities

Years ago I heard about a manufacturer in Rockford Illinois that was considering building their own electrical generating capacity. The local utility then came back with a lower rate that made the plant uneconomical (which was probably the goal all along!). Makes me wonder how may large users negotiate with utilities for lower rates? If they in fact get lower rates wouldn't it then be true that the utility is able to give them a lower rate as a result of thousands of smaller businesses and residential customers that have to pay retail for their electricity?

So then the reason the Koch's and others would be fighting wind and solar is because they will have higher utility cost because small businesses and residential customers could reduce what they buy from the utility company and reduce the ability of the utility to discount their product to the large users.

I know, convoluted and speculative but just the same it would explain why they are so against wind and solar. Could also be that they are heavily invested in oil and coal and see wind and solar as a threat.


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Response to Finishline42 (Reply #4)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 09:57 AM

5. MO. Governor Eric Greitens

Our famous governor called our MO state legislature to have a special session to allow special electric rates for a smelter operation and other large businesses in SE MO (for jobs supposedly). I thought was so unfair especially to the smaller businesses and residents in MO who now are subsidizing these larger businesses who are reaping the benefits of this legislation.

All businesses should stand on their own (free enterprise, right?, or, lets steal a company from across the MO border and bring the associated jobs to MO (and take away jobs from the other states bordering MO)). I'm surprised that the other states haven't sued MO yet to roll this back (I expect (or hope so)).

Link is: https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/missouri/articles/2017-05-26/missouri-legislature-passes-electricity-rate-incentives

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Response to SWBTATTReg (Reply #5)

Sun Jul 16, 2017, 01:55 PM

6. This has been going on for decades. Back in the late 80s, early to mid 90s, I forget who, a concrete

company, rock crusher, something like that, had figured out a way to generate their own electricity from the output of their machinery. Quite brilliant, actually, as to how they could do it. They were immediately taken to court by AP&L (now Entergy) to ban this company, by law, from generating their own electricity. It seems, built into the code, only a utility could generate electricity, regardless if you keep it on site. They didn't want to sell their output, just generate their own.

There are codes like this all over the country, thanks in a large to the Kock Bros. They have told their legislative minions that anyone who put up solar panels and resell the overage back to the grid, are thieves of the system and need to be brutally punished by the utility only reimbursing pennies on the dollar for buy-back of solar energy to the grid.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-koch-brothers-dirty-war-on-solar-power-20160211

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Response to Hestia (Reply #6)

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 11:22 AM

7. Good Points!

You've made very good points and thanks for bringing up. Predatory capitalists will do anything to preserve their wealth by eliminating any possibility of competition, no matter what the costs or where it comes from (environmental or national security be damned!).

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