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riversedge

(70,187 posts)
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 07:29 PM Jun 2017

Susan Collins of Maine says she will vote no on Senate health bill

Source: boston globe




By Jaclyn Reiss Globe Staff June 26, 2017

When it comes to the Senate health care bill, count Susan Collins out.

The Republican US senator from Maine had been on the fence about the GOP bill in recent days, saying she wanted to wait for a Congressional Budget Office evaluation before making her decision.

The CBO released its report on Monday, and the numbers weren’t pretty. It estimated that the bill would leave 22 million more Americans uninsured in 2026 than under President Barack Obama’s health care law, delivering a blow to GOP leaders’ hopes of pushing the plan through the chamber this week.


Read more: Lhttps://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2017/06/26/susan-collins-maine-says-she-will-vote-senate-health-bill/yNDUaqbNWbX55MfOliFyTK/story.htmlink to source



Very interesting --and very good IMHO--she says she wants to FIX the ACA!!



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Susan Collins of Maine says she will vote no on Senate health bill (Original Post) riversedge Jun 2017 OP
Good news. Stick to your guns, Senator! spooky3 Jun 2017 #1
and she will stick to her guns!!! ExtraGriz Jun 2017 #9
Hope she will keep her word. Thank you. riversedge. n/t Judi Lynn Jun 2017 #2
That's 1 of the 3 needed to stop it. n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2017 #3
I believe Dean Heller of NM will say no also. Need one more to break Pence tie. riversedge Jun 2017 #4
NV, he does appear to be a no, but i'm not sure he has mafe karynnj Jun 2017 #12
I don't trust her resolve. She can be bought. Just wait and watch !! flying-skeleton Jun 2017 #5
She usually says that when she knows it won't matter. PSPS Jun 2017 #6
Senator Collins is the most hated Republican Locutusofborg Jun 2017 #14
The fix was already in madville Jun 2017 #7
Let's see if her vote counts for anything jpak Jun 2017 #8
I ll believe it when it happens joeybee12 Jun 2017 #10
*faint* obamanut2012 Jun 2017 #11
That tells us something much more important. sofa king Jun 2017 #13
Only 3 R votes are needed Locutusofborg Jun 2017 #15
This is awesome news! FakeNoose Jun 2017 #16
Wasn't she on the fence with the Gorsuch nomination? BigmanPigman Jun 2017 #17
Right there with you Bigman. joshdawg Jun 2017 #18
Well, bully for her. spiderpig Jun 2017 #19
What is "mtp"? She writes, "I will vote no on mtp." (n/t) Jim Lane Jun 2017 #20
I found it -- it's the motion to proceed Jim Lane Jun 2017 #21

ExtraGriz

(488 posts)
9. and she will stick to her guns!!!
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 08:40 PM
Jun 2017

Sen. Collins will stick to her guns...used to live in her district and in my opinion she is more sincere than most republicans (she replaced Senator Bill Cohen who served as a cabinet secretary under Bill Clinton.) Don't lump her with the rest of the republicans...we need her more than ever.

Attack Maine Rep Bruce Poliquin (R) all you want, AND PLEASE DO!!!!....he's a scum with a lot of murky, illegal real estate dealings.

Locutusofborg

(525 posts)
14. Senator Collins is the most hated Republican
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 09:39 PM
Jun 2017

among conservatives. They despise her for being a moderate. Her lifetime (21 years) American Conservative Union rating is 45% conservative, the lowest of any Republican in the Senate and her ratings for 2015 and 2016 are 23% and 21% conservative. There are some conservative Democrats like Nelson of Florida and Manchin of West Virginia who vote with the conservatives more often than Collins.

madville

(7,408 posts)
7. The fix was already in
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 08:08 PM
Jun 2017

McConnell and many of the other Republican Senators don't want this to pass so they will get a few low-risk defectors to kill it. If I was a Republican I wouldn't want my name attached to a YES vote on this thing when it crashes and burns. When this doesn't pass they can still point at the ACA and blame high premiums and decreasing insurer participation on Obama. I just don't see any political advantage they would obtain by passing this turd that they would then OWN outright.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
13. That tells us something much more important.
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 09:27 PM
Jun 2017

My theory is that "moderate" Republicans have about as much autonomy and weight in Congressional floor votes as the Congressional Delegates from the territories, like Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands had (when Democrats had a powerful control of Congress).

When Delegates had a floor vote, the floor vote could only be cast if their votes could not sway the decision.

Similarly, I think the pretend-moderate Republicans are allowed to go maverick from the herd only when they feel they have a solid victory in hand. Or--much less likely--because a loss is certain.

That doesn't tell us much, but it tells us one thing: the Whips have done their snout-counting and the decision isn't close enough, one way or another, for one of the wolves to bother taking off the wool cloak.

Locutusofborg

(525 posts)
15. Only 3 R votes are needed
Mon Jun 26, 2017, 09:45 PM
Jun 2017

Collins is one. Nevada's Dean Heller is two and the far right are also opposing the bill in its current form: Rand Paul, Ted Cruz and Mike Lee. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin has also expressed serious skepicism.
Defeat just needs one of those 4 R's.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
17. Wasn't she on the fence with the Gorsuch nomination?
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 01:57 AM
Jun 2017

I don't trust ANY Repub at this point. Everyone said the House bill wouldn't go through and so they worked on making it even more cruel and it sailed through before anyone could blink. What's that saying, "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me". I feel older but wiser.

joshdawg

(2,647 posts)
18. Right there with you Bigman.
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 06:18 AM
Jun 2017

I haven't trusted any republican since Nixon. The current group of republican congressvermin just proves my point.

spiderpig

(10,419 posts)
19. Well, bully for her.
Tue Jun 27, 2017, 06:22 AM
Jun 2017

I'm sick of these wimp Repugs. They claim to be moderate and then fiddle-fart around over major legislation until they see which way the wind's blowing.

Jerks.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
21. I found it -- it's the motion to proceed
Thu Jun 29, 2017, 12:19 PM
Jun 2017

I think the process is: The Senate votes on the motion to proceed, which needs only a simple majority and puts the bill before the Senate. Next comes the "vote-a-rama" when amendments are voted up or down. Finally comes the vote on the bill.

Presumably the final bill's eligibility for reconciliation (i.e., can't be filibustered) depends on how it looks with any approved amendments.

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