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Mon Jun 19, 2017, 09:40 AM

Supreme Court to hear potentially landmark case on partisan gerrymandering

Source: Washington Post

The Supreme Court declared Monday that it will consider whether gerrymandered election maps favoring one political party over another violate the Constitution, a potentially fundamental change in the way American elections are conducted.

The justices regularly are called to invalidate state electoral maps that have been illegally drawn to reduce the influence of racial minorities by depressing the impact of their votes.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/supreme-court-to-hear-potentially-landmark-case-on-partisan-gerrymandering/2017/06/19/d525237e-5435-11e7-b38e-35fd8e0c288f_story.html?pushid=5947d3dbf07ec1380000000a&tid=notifi_push_breaking-news&utm_term=.568b0ffda435

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Reply Supreme Court to hear potentially landmark case on partisan gerrymandering (Original post)
Gothmog Jun 19 OP
Ligyron Jun 19 #1
Hortensis Jun 19 #8
Calista241 Jun 19 #2
Shell_Seas Jun 19 #3
EllieBC Jun 19 #4
Shell_Seas Jun 19 #5
BumRushDaShow Jun 19 #10
EllieBC Jun 19 #13
Gothmog Jun 19 #15
Shell_Seas Jun 19 #16
cstanleytech Jun 19 #7
Gothmog Jun 19 #14
Shell_Seas Jun 19 #17
Gothmog Jun 19 #19
Shell_Seas Jun 19 #20
RandySF Jun 19 #6
LiberalLovinLug Jun 19 #9
not fooled Jun 19 #11
Doug the Dem Jun 19 #12
FakeNoose Jun 19 #18
MichMan Jun 19 #21
Gothmog Jun 19 #22
Bengus81 Jun 20 #23

Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 09:49 AM

1. This may well determine the fate of our country.

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Response to Ligyron (Reply #1)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 10:38 AM

8. Well, could mean a lot for the near fate. I'm taking deep breaths

every time I think of what we could gain with just this case. However, if we lose, it just means this particular path to needed improvement is closed off, until revisited in another era.

Gerrymandering itself will continue either way since it does serve important functions, and in both cases the 2020 census will of course still be an enormous factor of course.

"Kennedy said he could envision a successful challenge “where a state enacts a law that has the purpose and effect of subjecting a group of voters or their party to disfavored treatment.” What was elusive, Kennedy said, was “a manageable standard by which to measure the effect of the apportionment and so to conclude that the state did impose a burden or restriction on the rights of a party’s voters.”

"Former president Barack Obama has said that one of his post-presidency projects will be to combat partisan gerrymanders after the 2020 Census."



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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 09:51 AM

2. This will be interesting. Minority districts are mandated by the CRA.

I hope they resolve this complex issue fairly.

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 10:01 AM

3. I live in Texas

In Congressional District 6. It encompasses 8 different towns, but mostly only PARTS of those towns. Primarily it leaves out the black and Hispanic areas of the same towns for other districts. The top of district 6 is a very populous area, while the middle and bottom of it is completely rural.

It's absolutely nonsense. There is no reason (logically) why the district would be drawn this way EXCEPT to ensure it stays republican.

If gerrymandering ended in Texas, then without a doubt, Texas would turn blue and ultimately change the entire national landscape of politics in America (electoral college).

This is a big deal.

http://www.chron.com/news/politics/texas/article/This-is-how-badly-Republicans-have-gerrymandered-6246509.php#photo-7107651

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Response to Shell_Seas (Reply #3)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 10:08 AM

4. That sounds like California's infamous Ribbon of Shame.

Long but narrow (only a mile wide at one point) coastal district. It no longer exists. It was ridiculous.

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Response to EllieBC (Reply #4)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 10:11 AM

5. It is absolutely ridiculous for those of us that live here (democrats)

Our Congressman is the highest paid congressman in Texas from NRA contributions and District 6 was the epicenter of the Open Carry Movement a few years ago. I wouldn't put a left-leaning bumper sticker on my car if you paid me to, (personal safety).

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Response to EllieBC (Reply #4)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 11:44 AM

10. Currrent PA-7



It snakes through 5 counties trying to pick up R votes in the blue/purple/light red rim counties N, NW, and W of Philly. Before this gerrymandering, this was Joe Sestak's district (Democrat).

Last week a group announced that they were taking the PA Congressional gerrymandering to court (cases had happened back in 2011 for the state legislative districts that had to be partially redrawn). At issue - the state voter registration is 51% Democrat and 49% Republican yet the Congressional delegation is 13 GOP and 5 Democrat due to the gerrymandering.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #10)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 01:19 PM

13. Honestly, CA's worked in our favour. But it really had to go.

Gerrymandering is bad even if it could benefit us. Usually it doesn't though.

That's a lovely shaped district they made.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #10)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 01:48 PM

15. Arnold Porter is working on that case

Arnold Porter is a great firm. That will be a fun case to watch

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #10)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 01:49 PM

16. The only way Republicans can stay on top is by cheating.

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Response to Shell_Seas (Reply #3)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 10:34 AM

7. I suspect it would be more purple than blue but ya the gerrymandering is way out of control in much

of the country and hopefully the courts will have the common sense to order the people that are setting up the districts to knock it off.

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Response to Shell_Seas (Reply #3)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 01:47 PM

14. Trial in the Texas redistricting case starts July 10

I do not think that CD 6 is one of the districts that will be involved but I will check

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #14)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 01:50 PM

17. It's not....

There are only 2 districts I believe, both near the boarder.

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Response to Shell_Seas (Reply #17)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 01:58 PM

19. CD 35 is involved and that district will affect several districts

The three main districts involved in the July 10 trial are CD 27, CD 23 and CD 35. In addition, there was a finding of intentional discrimination for Dallas that could put some of these districts into play

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #19)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 01:59 PM

20. Thanks.

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 10:19 AM

6. This is why elections matter

We would be in much better shape with a 5-4 SOTUS majority.

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Response to RandySF (Reply #6)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 11:40 AM

9. Yup, that's why they held out to steal a seat

They still have a goal of a permanent Republican majority. And now they have the courts to back them up.

I wouldn't have much hope of anything changing soon now.

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Response to LiberalLovinLug (Reply #9)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 12:36 PM

11. Time for koch poodle

gosuck to earn his keep.

Sincerely hope I'm wrong.



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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 01:10 PM

12. Sure, they'll Hear It

But don't count on them LISTENING.

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 01:50 PM

18. OK guys, this is it

Time to bring out the big guns!

(so to speak)


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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 02:41 PM

21. Didn't the Voting Rights Act require it?

Didn't the Voting Rights Act require gerrymandering to ensure majority minority districts?

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 05:30 PM

22. From the Brennan Center

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Response to Gothmog (Original post)

Tue Jun 20, 2017, 05:22 PM

23. Gerrymandering in Kansas brought you years of Todd Tiahart and then

Mike Pompeo and now that lacky in a special election, Ron Estes. Before that Democrat Dan Glickman was elected over and over.

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