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Sun Jun 18, 2017, 07:31 PM

Several casualties reported after van hits pedestrians in north London

Source: The Guardian

The Metropolitan police are attending the scene of a major incident in the Finsbury Park area of north London with reports of several casualties.

Police said they were called to reports of a vehicle that had collided with pedestrains. One person has been arrested.

Officers were called at 12.20am on Monday to the incident, the Metropolitan police said.

The London ambulance service said a “number of resources have been sent to the scene in Seven Sisters Road”.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/19/several-casualties-reported-after-van-hits-pedestrians-in-north-london



FWIW, an incident at 12:30 AM on a Sunday night in a suburban area doesn't ring as a likely terrorism incident.

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Reply Several casualties reported after van hits pedestrians in north London (Original post)
brooklynite Jun 2017 OP
shenmue Jun 2017 #1
inanna Jun 2017 #2
irisblue Jun 2017 #3
JI7 Jun 2017 #5
irisblue Jun 2017 #6
JI7 Jun 2017 #7
irisblue Jun 2017 #9
liberalhistorian Jun 2017 #30
InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2017 #33
Doug the Dem Jun 2017 #35
Igel Jun 2017 #27
Eugene Jun 2017 #11
Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #19
elleng Jun 2017 #10
brooklynite Jun 2017 #4
renegade000 Jun 2017 #8
Initech Jun 2017 #13
liberalhistorian Jun 2017 #31
Initech Jun 2017 #32
inanna Jun 2017 #12
ileus Jun 2017 #14
Thomas Hurt Jun 2017 #15
Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #16
dalton99a Jun 2017 #17
oberliner Jun 2017 #18
Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #20
oberliner Jun 2017 #21
Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #23
Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #24
inanna Jun 2017 #28
lib87 Jun 2017 #22
dalton99a Jun 2017 #25
iluvtennis Jun 2017 #36
Snake Plissken Jun 2017 #26
iluvtennis Jun 2017 #37
Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #29
uppityperson Jun 2017 #34
muriel_volestrangler Jun 2017 #38
nitpicker Jun 2017 #39
Denzil_DC Jun 2017 #40
brooklynite Jun 2017 #41
RVN VET71 Jun 2017 #42



Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Jun 18, 2017, 07:40 PM

3. I never thot I would hope for a simple drunk ass

Pres Cheney, you made ISIS.

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Response to irisblue (Reply #3)

Sun Jun 18, 2017, 07:58 PM

5. is the mosque shia ?

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Response to JI7 (Reply #5)

Sun Jun 18, 2017, 08:02 PM

6. What do you mean?

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Response to irisblue (Reply #6)

Sun Jun 18, 2017, 08:04 PM

7. you mentioned isis and it looks like the attack was on muslims

Coming from a mosque. So im wondering what kind of mosque it is.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #7)

Sun Jun 18, 2017, 08:07 PM

9. NO. I think that the Cheney-Bush f-ed up war machine creater the rage that made ISIS

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Response to irisblue (Reply #9)

Sun Jun 18, 2017, 10:57 PM

30. ISIS has nothing to do with this.

This was a white man deliberately ramming his vehicle into Muslims leaving a mosque in London. This is an attack against Muslims and is just as bad and horrifying as the other recent terrorist attacks in London.

Of course, it's no surprise to me that a lot of news reports aren't making that clear, no surprise at all.

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Response to liberalhistorian (Reply #30)

Sun Jun 18, 2017, 11:01 PM

33. Sickening!

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Response to liberalhistorian (Reply #30)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 12:22 AM

35. Thread Winner

 

And I admit it: when I heard the first reports, I thought the same stupid thing that many others thought!

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Response to JI7 (Reply #7)

Sun Jun 18, 2017, 10:18 PM

27. Muslim Welfare center.

(I think that's the name the map told me.)

The website has everything from Quran for women to soccer to karate to various unity activities. Something was in partnership with a Kurdish organization. Looks moderate-to-liberal in most respects, big into outreach, accommodation, and helping immigrants and families. It calls itself a "masjid" so I take it that it's not Shi'ite. Might be accommodating of Sufism, whatever that means for the mix of ethnicities involved.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #5)

Sun Jun 18, 2017, 08:23 PM

11. No. Finsbury Park is Salafi Sunni.

It's under new management, but the previous management had ties to extremists.
Richard Reid, the Shoe Bomber, worshiped there.

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Response to Eugene (Reply #11)

Sun Jun 18, 2017, 09:23 PM

19. The attack wasn't at Finsbury Park Mosque, it was 300 yards away

on a different street, at a Muslim community centre that contains its own mosque.

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Response to irisblue (Reply #3)

Sun Jun 18, 2017, 08:21 PM

10. Yes he did make ISIS,

and all the crap that's happened after 9/11. Let's never forget.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Jun 18, 2017, 07:41 PM

4. Twitter sources reporting pedestrians were coming out of a local Mosque...

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #4)

Sun Jun 18, 2017, 08:05 PM

8. Looks like there is a Muslim community center and a Mosque in the area

Interesting to note that this is also in Jeremy Corbyn's constituency (Islington North), though that's probably just a coincidence.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #4)

Sun Jun 18, 2017, 08:36 PM

13. Cue the Islam hate in 3... 2... 1...

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Response to Initech (Reply #13)

Sun Jun 18, 2017, 10:59 PM

31. This was a white man's attack against Muslims,

not an ISIS or jihadist attack, so I would hope that we wouldn't be hearing too much of that.

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Response to liberalhistorian (Reply #31)

Sun Jun 18, 2017, 11:00 PM

32. I was just on Twitter, it's being thrown around a lot.

Especially by Pepe The Frog trolls and MAGA idiots who post pro-white hate speech.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Jun 18, 2017, 08:30 PM

12. Guardian Live Feed: Muslim Council says van 'run over worshippers'

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Jun 18, 2017, 08:46 PM

14. Probably just some confused old person.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Jun 18, 2017, 08:56 PM

15. Terrorism begets terrorism...

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Jun 18, 2017, 09:00 PM

16. "Kill me, kill me, I want to kill all Muslims"




BuzzFeed News ✔ @BuzzFeedNews

Eyewitness tells @jamesrbuk man drove van at pedestrians outside London mosque, then shouted “Kill me, kill me, I want to kill all Muslims”

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Response to Denzil_DC (Reply #16)

Sun Jun 18, 2017, 09:16 PM

17. +1

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Jun 18, 2017, 09:22 PM

18. This was a terrorism incident

He deliberately drove into a group of people going to a mosque with the hope of killing Muslims.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #18)

Sun Jun 18, 2017, 09:25 PM

20. Reports of at least one stabbing by the driver, too.

Some eyewitness reports have said there were three men in the van, and two of them ran away, but the true picture will take time to emerge.

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Response to Denzil_DC (Reply #20)

Sun Jun 18, 2017, 09:26 PM

21. Lots of info coming in on Twitter

Seems very clear that this was a terrorist attack on Muslims.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #21)

Sun Jun 18, 2017, 09:30 PM

23. That's certainly clear.

Our media are being slow to call it that, for some reason.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #21)

Sun Jun 18, 2017, 09:48 PM

24. Stabbing report now being walked back by several sources.

Whatever happened, it was bad enough.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #18)

Sun Jun 18, 2017, 10:25 PM

28. Guardian is now reporting that counter-terrorism police are investigating.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Jun 18, 2017, 09:26 PM

22. I wonder if Dear Leader Will Say Anything Constructive

Since it is terrorism against Muslims?

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Response to lib87 (Reply #22)

Sun Jun 18, 2017, 09:59 PM

25. Extremely doubtful

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Response to lib87 (Reply #22)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 01:13 AM

36. Dumptywon't say a thing-like he didn't say anything when that turd targeted Muslim women in Portland

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Jun 18, 2017, 10:17 PM

26. If Trump is not insulting our allies and celebrating on twitter than there is a 99.985% probability

The driver is a White man.

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Response to Snake Plissken (Reply #26)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 01:14 AM

37. Amen

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Jun 18, 2017, 10:25 PM

29. London counter-terror police investigate after van hits worshippers near mosque

Counter-terrorism police are investigating a major incident in Finsbury Park, north London, after a van hit pedestrians and left a number of casualties.

The Guardian understands counter-terrorism officers have joined regular police looking at the incident which is in its early stages. The Metropolitan police said they were called to reports of a vehicle collision at about 12.20am on Monday.

Officers are investigating whether the collision was accidental or deliberate and armed officers were deployed as a precaution.

A man, believed to be the driver of the vehicle, has been arrested, the Metropolitan police said. There are reports that members of the public held the man on the ground before his arrest.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/19/several-casualties-reported-after-van-hits-pedestrians-in-north-london

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 12:14 AM

34. It's being called a "potential terrorist attack" per bbc

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-40322960
"Prime Minister Theresa May said police were treating it "as a potential terrorist attack"."


Wtf is "potential" about driving into a group of people exiting a place of worship while screaming "kill them all"?

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 03:12 AM

38. 1 man dead (already collapsed before the van hit them), 8 in hospital, 2 very serious

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A man died on the scene but was already receiving first aid from members of the public when the attack took place, police said. It is not yet known whether his death was a result of the attack.

Eight people are in hospital, two with very serious injuries, and two others were treated at the scene.

All of those injured were members of the Muslim community.
...
The van driver – a 48-year-old man – was arrested at the scene by the police on suspicion of attempted murder after being detained by members of the public.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/19/what-we-know-so-far-van-hits-pedestrians-near-london-mosque

Police press conference summary: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/live/2017/jun/19/north-london-van-incident-finsbury-park-casualties-collides-pedestrians-live-updates?page=with:block-594783bce4b014a733d63a22#block-594783bce4b014a733d63a22

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 06:12 AM

40. Now being described as a "terrorist attack" by Sadiq Khan and May:

Khan:

Mayor of London

The Metropolitan Police are responding to a horrific terrorist attack on innocent people in Finsbury Park.

One person has died at the scene, eight more are injured in hospital and two more were treated for injuries at the scene.

My thoughts and prayers are with everyone affected. I am grateful to our emergency services, who responded quickly and have been working on the scene throughout the night.

I have been in contact with the Met Commissioner and senior officers and am being kept updated on all developments. I have also spoken with community organisations in the area, local MP Jeremy Corbyn and leader of the council Richard Watts.

We don't yet know the full details, but this was clearly a deliberate attack on innocent Londoners, many of whom were finishing prayers during the holy month of Ramadan.

While this appears to be an attack on a particular community, like the terrible attacks in Manchester, Westminster and London Bridge it is also an assault on all our shared values of tolerance, freedom and respect.

The situation is still unfolding and I urge all Londoners to remain calm and vigilant. Please report anything suspicious to the police, but only call 999 in an emergency.

The Met have deployed extra police to reassure communities, especially those observing Ramadan.

https://www.facebook.com/MayorofLondon/posts/481446248868204

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May:




BuzzFeed UK ✔ @BuzzFeedUK

"Hatred and evil of this kind will never succeed" - PM responds to #FinsburyPark attack





Stuart Millar ✔ @stuartmillar159

May: "like all terrorism in whatever form, it shares the same fundamental goal... To break the sacred bonds of solidarity and citizenship."

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 06:39 AM

41. 'I'm going to kill all Muslims': Witnesses recount horror of Finsbury Park attack

The Telegraph:

According to one man at the scene, the suspect - a 48-year-old who was detained by onlookers before being arrested by police - screamed "I'm going to kill all Muslims" before he was tackled to the floor.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Mon Jun 19, 2017, 01:11 PM

42. Has Mr. Trump expressed horror and sorrow about this despicable act of terrorism?

Or is he waiting for the Mayor of London to say something that can be quoted out of context and used as the basis for yet another unbearably stupidly ignorant and grossly insensitive insult against that Mayor and the British people in general?

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