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Denzil_DC

(7,230 posts)
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 08:17 PM Jun 2017

Sky sources: Downing Street's statement on DUP made in error

Source: Sky News

Downing Street made an error when it issued a statement saying the DUP had agreed the principles of a deal to back the Conservatives, according to Sky sources.

The DUP confirmed to Sky News that it has not yet agreed to back the Tories on a "confidence and supply basis" - but talks are continuing.

The party said: "The DUP today (Saturday) held discussions with representatives of the Conservative Party in line with Arlene Foster's commitment to explore how we might bring stability to the nation at this time of great challenge. The talks so far have been positive.

"Discussions will continue next week to work on the details and to reach agreement on arrangements for the new Parliament."

Read more: http://news.sky.com/story/dup-agrees-to-principles-of-confidence-and-supply-deal-with-tories-10911387






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David Blevins ✔ @skydavidblevins

BREAK: The DUP says talks with the Tories are continuing. The party has NOT yet agreed to back the Tories on a confidence and supply basis.

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David Blevins ✔ @skydavidblevins

BREAK: DUP has NOT yet reached any agreement with the Tories. Sky sources: Downing Street issued the wrong statement in error.

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I'm not sure how much more of Theresa May's strength and stability I can take!
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sandensea

(21,621 posts)
1. A seismic turn of events.
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 08:20 PM
Jun 2017

Thank you for keeping us updated, Denzil!

Prime Minister's Questions next Wednesday should be lots of fun indeed.

sandensea

(21,621 posts)
4. Good point.
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 08:42 PM
Jun 2017

I understand many in Britain are referring to this as the 'Maydup' government.

Gotta love British wit!

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
15. It's next Wednesday and she still is.
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 11:09 PM
Jun 2017

But the matter is far from resolved. No coalition, no Queen's speech, and everyone knows what just killed all those people in a preventable fire.

sandensea

(21,621 posts)
6. Same here.
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 08:47 PM
Jun 2017

Different administrations - especially Republican ones - have been so busy creating a presidential regime à la Alfredo Stroessner, that by now we've got precious little democracy left in Washington.

And however much we do have left, it's largely thanks to all the Elizabeth Warrens and Maxine Waterses still in Congress - as well as true investigative journalists out there. Thank goodness for all of them.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
8. I am sure they will work something out. The DUP can always be counted on to back conservatives.
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 08:54 PM
Jun 2017

My guess is that the government will last a year and then new elections will be called next Summer.

And it is debatable whether May survives. My guess is that she will. But regardless, I think the Conservative/DUP government will last for about a year.

Denzil_DC

(7,230 posts)
9. The whole idea is causing great discomfort to a number of Tories,
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 09:03 PM
Jun 2017

to the extent that I wonder if it'll even end up going ahead, and May will end up trying to start negotiating brexit in ten days' time as a plain old minority government without any deals at all, and dare the other parties to topple her in parliament (assuming her own party doesn't do that in panic/exasperation):

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Tory MPs Are Really Worried About The DUP's Gay Rights Record

Tory MPs have told BuzzFeed News they are deeply concerned that any alliance with the Democratic Unionist Party (DUP) could cause serious damage to the Conservative party's public image owing to the Northern Irish party's record on LGBT and abortion rights.

Politicians on the modernising wing of the Conservatives fear the party's progress in appealing to minorities could be wasted, and say they are already receiving large volumes of correspondence from constituents concerned about a formal alliance with a party that has consistently blocked same-sex marriage in Northern Ireland, and opposed any move to legalise abortion.

LGBT Conservative groups have registered their opposition, while the increasingly-powerful Scottish Conservative leader Ruth Davidson requested specific reassurances from Theresa May that LGBT rights would be defended as part of any arrangement with the DUP.

"Privately, people have expressed their concerns to the whips and Number 10," former education secretary Nicky Morgan told BuzzFeed News. "MPs are being flooded from emails from campaign groups."

https://www.buzzfeed.com/jimwaterson/tory-mps-are-really-worried-they-could-be-tarnished-by-the


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It took three lost elections to housetrain the Tory "nasty" Party after Thatcher (and Major) to the extent where they were electable again. Once you start to look consistently incompetent, and you've lost your charm and looks, people's patience soon runs out.
 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
16. The Tories will not go to a second election with May as PM.
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 11:11 PM
Jun 2017

Unless a snap election is forced imminently, that will never happen. A thousand ways it can be played out, but she will be deposed before an election.

Iplayoneontv

(77 posts)
10. It's a terrible idea to link to them.
Sat Jun 10, 2017, 10:21 PM
Jun 2017

Not to mention what DUP did to NI and pissing off SF again. The head of the Scottish Conservatives is a lesbian. She's already talking about doing another leave the Empire talk.

May fucked up.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,300 posts)
11. Does this show how carefully May would run the Brexit negotiations?
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 04:17 AM
Jun 2017

As mentioned in the UK group thread on this, it does look like an episode of The Thick Of It.

Imagine it: May: "We've agreed on the status of expats in the EU and the UK". EU: "No, we just agreed the parameters of the discussion". May: "We've got rid of free movement!" EU: "No, we told you you couldn't have access to the market if you wanted to get rid of free movement. You didn't commit about the market". May: "we've left!" EU: "Here's the bill you tried to run away from ..."

T_i_B

(14,737 posts)
14. That's how it was looking before the election!
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 11:42 AM
Jun 2017

The difference now is that Mayhem has been exposed, and left a lot of the people who backed her looking rather stupid.

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
12. May's a liar
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 07:57 AM
Jun 2017

she said she would resign if the vote happened the way it did. Why is she still there?

hatrack

(59,583 posts)
13. There appears to be no lower limit to the PM's ineptitude
Sun Jun 11, 2017, 08:41 AM
Jun 2017

I mean, this is freaking disastrous.

And it couldn't happen to a better party (except for the GOP, of course).

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