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fountainofyouth

(409 posts)
Sat May 27, 2017, 04:31 PM May 2017

Man accused of stabbing 2 on Oregon train posted white supremacist views on Facebook

Source: Washington Post

Two men were stabbed to death Friday on a light-rail train in Portland, Ore., after they tried to intervene when another passenger began “ranting and raving” and shouting anti-Muslim hate speech at two young women, police said.

According to witnesses, a white male passenger riding an eastbound MAX train early Friday afternoon began yelling what “would best be characterized as hate speech toward a variety of ethnicities and religions,” police said. Some of the slurs were directed at two female passengers, one of whom was wearing a hijab, according to police.

“This suspect was on the train and he was yelling and ranting and raving a lot of different things, including what we characterized at hate speech or biased language,” Portland police spokesman Pete Simpson said at a news conference Friday evening.

At least two men tried to calm the ranting passenger down, but “they were attacked viciously by the suspect” when they did, Simpson said.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/05/27/man-fatally-stabs-2-on-portland-ore-train-after-they-interrupted-his-anti-muslim-rants-police-say/?utm_term=.dd617a82120d



Waiting for deplorables to condemn this radical Christian terrorism.

ETA: Dude's name is literally Jeremy Joseph Christian!
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Man accused of stabbing 2 on Oregon train posted white supremacist views on Facebook (Original Post) fountainofyouth May 2017 OP
I wonder where he got the idea NastyRiffraff May 2017 #1
I'm sure he can move to a red state mountain grammy May 2017 #2
No, he can't oberliner May 2017 #4
I'm pretty sure she was joking. n/t BlueStater May 2017 #5
I'm just glad he was caught oberliner May 2017 #7
Of course, but you've got to wonder mountain grammy May 2017 #10
They'd probably defend him oberliner May 2017 #11
He's actually a neo-Pagan Starry Messenger May 2017 #3
Here is one of the young men whom he killed. ancianita May 2017 #6
This man is a hero!!! onecent May 2017 #23
here is the tweet of him giving the Nazi salute... riversedge May 2017 #8
A tragic reminder this Memorial Day Runningdawg May 2017 #9
White Nationalist/Anti-government Terrorism has been Rampant psychopomp May 2017 #12
Great post. Consider starting a thread with this. nt raccoon May 2017 #22
Have you noticed? dawn frenzy adams May 2017 #13
The Portland Mercury knew about this guy a few weeks ago. Warren DeMontague May 2017 #14
I live in Portland, and things are getting tense out there. arissa May 2017 #15
I live in outer SE PDX. :D Kittycow May 2017 #26
He also claimed to be a Bernie Sanders / Jill Stein fan on Facebook oberliner May 2017 #16
Sieg Heiling and a supporter of Sanders and Stein? SMC22307 May 2017 #17
Not mentally stable oberliner May 2017 #18
Loser at life, angry, easily manipulated by bullshit "media"... SMC22307 May 2017 #20
You know, that's nearly the exact profile of the average ISIS recruit... paleotn May 2017 #21
So what's his FReeper username? Tarc May 2017 #19
He has previously engaged in hate speech. athena May 2017 #24
The "Lizard King" thing... Cal Carpenter May 2017 #25
I'm no expert on this but... bagelsforbreakfast May 2017 #27
the latest 2 American serial killers named... bagelsforbreakfast May 2017 #28

mountain grammy

(26,598 posts)
10. Of course, but you've got to wonder
Sat May 27, 2017, 06:01 PM
May 2017

What if the candidate in MT had seriously injured or even killed that reporter? Would his adoring voters still be there? The violence that's become acceptable and even encouraged is shocking. Will this guy plead some kind of self defense? I wouldn't be surprised.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
11. They'd probably defend him
Sat May 27, 2017, 06:03 PM
May 2017

I agree with Trump when he said he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and not lose any support. I think that goes for most Republicans of his ilk. They will back their people no matter what heinous things they do.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
3. He's actually a neo-Pagan
Sat May 27, 2017, 05:15 PM
May 2017

But yeah, ironically the deplorables are posting about ending extremism today. Naturally they are avoiding this story.

ancianita

(35,939 posts)
6. Here is one of the young men whom he killed.
Sat May 27, 2017, 05:36 PM
May 2017

His mother posted this on Facebook today.

I'm so sad for him. In a flash, his good act ends in death.

Runningdawg

(4,514 posts)
9. A tragic reminder this Memorial Day
Sat May 27, 2017, 05:48 PM
May 2017

that you don't need to wear a uniform to make the ultimate sacrifice for the good of your country.

psychopomp

(4,668 posts)
12. White Nationalist/Anti-government Terrorism has been Rampant
Sat May 27, 2017, 07:48 PM
May 2017

July 2008: A gunman named Jim David Adkisson, agitated at how "liberals" are "destroying America," walks into a Unitarian Church and opens fire, killing two churchgoers and wounding four others.

October 2008: Two neo-Nazis are arrested in Tennessee in a plot to murder dozens of African-Americans, culminating in the assassination of President Obama.
December 2008: A pair of "Patriot" movement radicals -- the father-son team of Bruce and Joshua Turnidge, who wanted "to attack the political infrastructure" -- threaten a bank in Woodburn, Oregon, with a bomb in the hopes of extorting money that would end their financial difficulties, for which they blamed the government. Instead, the bomb goes off and kills two police officers. The men eventually are convicted and sentenced to death for the crime.

December 2008: In Belfast, Maine, police discover the makings of a nuclear "dirty bomb" in the basement of a white supremacist shot dead by his wife. The man, who was independently wealthy, reportedly was agitated about the election of President Obama and was crafting a plan to set off the bomb.

January 2009: A white supremacist named Keith Luke embarks on a killing rampage in Brockton, Mass., raping and wounding a black woman and killing her sister, then killing a homeless man before being captured by police as he is en route to a Jewish community center.

February 2009: A Marine named Kody Brittingham is arrested and charged with plotting to assassinate President Obama. Brittingham also collected white-supremacist material.

February 2009: A 60-year-old former Republican Party campaign volunteer opens fire on a gathering of Chilena exchange students in an apartment complex in Miramar Beach, Fla., after telling a neighbor he wanted to start a "revolution" against Latino immigrants.

April 2009: A white supremacist named Richard Poplawski opens fire on three Pittsburgh police officers who come to his house on a domestic-violence call and kills all three, because he believed President Obama intended to take away the guns of white citizens like himself. Poplawski is currently awaiting trial.

April 2009: Another gunman in Okaloosa County, Florida, similarly fearful of Obama's purported gun-grabbing plans, kills two deputies when they come to arrest him in a domestic-violence matter, then is killed himself in a shootout with police.

May 2009: A "sovereign citizen" named Scott Roeder walks into a church in Wichita, Kansas, and assassinates abortion provider Dr. George Tiller.

June 2009: A Holocaust denier and right-wing tax protester named James Von Brunn opens fire at the Holocaust Museum, killing a security guard.

February 2010: An angry tax protester named Joseph Ray Stack flies an airplane into the building housing IRS offices in Austin, Texas. (Media are reluctant to label this one "domestic terrorism" too.)

March 2010: Seven militiamen from the Hutaree Militia in Michigan and Ohio are arrested and charged with plotting to assassinate local police officers with the intent of sparking a new civil war.

March 2010: An anti-government extremist named John Patrick Bedell walks into the Pentagon and opens fire, wounding two officers before he is himself shot dead.

May 2010: A "sovereign citizen" from Georgia is arrested in Tennessee and charged with plotting the violent takeover of a local county courthouse.

May 2010: A still-unidentified white man walks into a Jacksonville, Fla., mosque and sets it afire, simultaneously setting off a pipe bomb.

May 2010: Two "sovereign citizens" named Jerry and Joe Kane gun down two police officers who pull them over for a traffic violation, and then wound two more officers in a shootout in which both of them are eventually killed.

July 2010: An agitated right-winger and convict named Byron Williams loads up on weapons and drives to the Bay Area intent on attacking the offices of the Tides Foundation and the ACLU, but is intercepted by state patrolmen and engages them in a shootout and armed standoff in which two officers and Williams are wounded.

September 2010: A Concord, N.C., man is arrested and charged with plotting to blow up a North Carolina abortion clinic. The man, 26-year--old Justin Carl Moose, referred to himself as the "Christian counterpart to (Osama) bin Laden” in a taped undercover meeting with a federal informant.

January 2011: A 22-year-old gunman named Jared Lee Loughner with a long grudge against Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and a paranoid hatred of the government walks into a public Giffords event and shoots her in the head, then keeps firing, killing six people and wounding 14 more. Gifford miraculously survives.

January 2011: A backpack bomb with the potential of killing or injuring dozens of people is found along the route of a Martin Luther King Day “unity march” in downtown Spokane.

January 31, 2011: An Army veteran from California with a previous arrest record for making threats against President Bush is arrested for making terrorist threats outside a mosque in Michigan inside a car whose trunk was filled with Class C explosives.

March 2011: Five people in the Fairbanks area are arrested on charges of plotting to kidnap or kill state troopers and a Fairbanks judge. All five are self-proclaimed "sovereign citizens," including local militia leader Schaeffer Cox.

March 2011: A man from Madera, CA, named Donny Eugene Mower is arrested for the firebombing of a Planned Parenthood clinic and the vandalization of a local Islamic religious center. The crimes were committed in the name of Mower's one-man hate group, the American Nationalist Brotherhood. His 'manifesto' asked: 'Isn't it time that someone hit back?'

August 2012: Wade Michael Page fatally shot six people and wounded four others in a mass shooting at a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin. Page was an American white supremacist and a United States Army veteran from Cudahy, Wisconsin. All of the dead were members of the Sikh faith.

June 2015: Dylann Roof, a 21-year-old white supremacist, went into the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, South Carolina and shot and killed nine people. Roof was a known to be a white supremacist and owned a website where he wrote a manifesto in which he outlined his views toward blacks, among other peoples.

November 2015: Robert Lewis Dear, a 57 years-old Kentucky born, moved from South Carolina to North Carolina to Colorado where he opened fire on a Planned Parenthood facility, killing two civilians and a police officer. After a five-hour standoff Dear told the police "no more baby parts." Robert Lewis Dear has been found to be mentally incompetent to stand trial.

http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/violence-directed-liberal-and-govern https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_terrorism_in_the_United_States

dawn frenzy adams

(429 posts)
13. Have you noticed?
Sat May 27, 2017, 08:01 PM
May 2017

These acts of domestic terror don't receive the endless loop- and echo chamber coverage--like they do if the perpetrator is Muslim- or has dark skin? As a matter of fact, some receive no airing at all.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
14. The Portland Mercury knew about this guy a few weeks ago.
Sat May 27, 2017, 08:09 PM
May 2017

Apparently he was stirring up shit at previous protests, carrying around a baseball bat, etc.

http://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/2017/05/27/19041594/suspect-in-portland-hate-crime-murders-is-a-known-white-supremacist


http://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/2017/04/29/18983985/photos-and-video-saturdays-right-wing-march-left-wing-protest-in-montavilla


This story is horrible, but the spirit of this city isn't exemplified by this psycho in any way. It is exemplified by the people who stood up to him on that train, especially the two heroes who gave their lives protecting strangers from hate.

arissa

(236 posts)
15. I live in Portland, and things are getting tense out there.
Sat May 27, 2017, 08:11 PM
May 2017

Out-of-town alt-right douchers have been coming here to stir trouble, and succeeding. This guy was a local, but he was obviously inflamed by the out-of-towners, as he has been seen/photographed at alt-right rallies held here in town. The strategy is to target cities they see as liberal bastions (Berkeley, Portland, Seattle), show up acting belligerent, and start fights when the "antifa"/anarchist folks get in their face. They are actually, from a strategic point of view, fairly well organized and deliberate. They get away with it because either the anarchist types don't want to reveal their identity to police to press charges, or they bait people into attacking first. The article I'm posting below also notes how they sometimes try and befriend the police that show up to try and keep things calm, while the anarchists and police obviously have no love lost (although some other reporting indicates that, at some of the rallies, there was certainly no love lost between the police and the alt-righters, either).

They have spray-painted swastikas in my neighborhood (I live in the extremely liberal inner-SE). They've shown up at local bars to try and recruit people to their white supremacist groups, and been kicked out, and then they attack the place of business (employees Facebook accounts hacked, etc).

They are deliberately moving in to these places because they don't want people to feel safe. "If it can happen in liberal Portland, it can happen anywhere." It's deliberate intimidation/psychological terrorism.

The next big clash is set for June 4th, when the alt-righters are planning a rally during the city's Rose Festival. It's going to get ugly, although I am willing to bet the police response will be better than previous clashes after this tragic attack.

Everyone I know is talking about this. These men died heroes.

Further reading on what's happening in this city:
http://www.wweek.com/news/2017/05/23/white-supremacists-are-brawling-with-masked-leftists-in-the-portland-streets-homeland-security-is-watching/
http://www.wweek.com/news/2017/03/15/video-nazis-thrown-out-of-portlands-lucky-lab-beer-hall/
https://munchies.vice.com/en_us/article/portland-bar-receiving-support-and-attacks-after-kicking-out-nazis

Kittycow

(2,396 posts)
26. I live in outer SE PDX. :D
Sun May 28, 2017, 01:30 PM
May 2017

I'm so brokenhearted 😕

Anyway, thanks for the links. I quit watching TV news so I was out to lunch on the white supremacists activities. I lost heart in a big way when the Bundys got away with their crimes against "my" land and stopped engaging.

I did feel scared after the murders happened but after reading your post, I feel enlightened instead of cowered.



 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
16. He also claimed to be a Bernie Sanders / Jill Stein fan on Facebook
Sat May 27, 2017, 08:20 PM
May 2017

Really bizarre stuff on his FB page.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
20. Loser at life, angry, easily manipulated by bullshit "media"...
Sat May 27, 2017, 08:45 PM
May 2017

and so many more like him out there.

paleotn

(17,884 posts)
21. You know, that's nearly the exact profile of the average ISIS recruit...
Sat May 27, 2017, 09:48 PM
May 2017

...but with a different religious background. Interesting.

athena

(4,187 posts)
24. He has previously engaged in hate speech.
Sun May 28, 2017, 11:24 AM
May 2017

Here is an article all about his background and previous criminal record:

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2017/05/portland_suspect_in_2_slayings.html

Excerpt:

Christian was a participant in the April 29 "March for Free Speech" on 82nd Avenue in Montavilla. He posted an OregonLive video of the event to his Facebook page, referencing himself as "the Lizard King" as he walked among fellow protesters holding American flags and "Trump Make America Great Again" flags.

...

Another video of the event shows Christian, standing in a Burger King parking lot and wrapped in a Revolutionary War-era American flag, casting Nazi salutes while shouting: "Die Muslims!"

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
25. The "Lizard King" thing...
Sun May 28, 2017, 01:05 PM
May 2017

Can anyone tell me if there is some reason Jim Morrison would be a favorite of racist RWers? I'm constantly learning about new dog whistles and secret codes of the white supremacist movement so I'm wondering if this is just a coincidence...

I had a bit of a confrontation a year or two ago with a dude who thought the Confederate flag was a logical counterpoint to the Black Lives Matter movement, and before we got to that part of the convo, he had expressed a major obsession with Jim Morrison/The Doors.

Was Morrison a racist? Or is just that most white guys go through a Doors phase in their rock-and-roll appreciation process?

Just wondering.

 

bagelsforbreakfast

(1,427 posts)
27. I'm no expert on this but...
Sun May 28, 2017, 01:39 PM
May 2017

I think it has something to do with the various movies/mini-series/tv versions of "V" and how right-wing conspiracy followers perceive the government to be run by (sci-fi) Aliens who are really Lizards. Go figure.

 

bagelsforbreakfast

(1,427 posts)
28. the latest 2 American serial killers named...
Sun May 28, 2017, 01:41 PM
May 2017

Christian and Godblot. Co-incidence? I think not. Remember how they all seemed to be named "John Wayne (insert last name here)?"

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