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Wed May 24, 2017, 11:07 PM

CBO: Republican health care bill raises premiums for older, poor Americans by as much as 850%

Source: Vox

The American Health Care Act would make a low-income 64-year-old in the individual market pay more than half his income for health insurance.

Republicansí American Health Care Act would be devastating to older Americans who rely on the individual insurance market, according to an analysis by the Congressional Budget Office.

The CBO found that the revised Republican bill does bring down overall premiums in the individual market by anywhere from 4 to 20 percent by 2026 compared with what they would be under current law.

The variation depends on whether a state accepts waivers under the American Health Care Act, which would allow insurers to offer much skimpier health plans at lower premiums. States that take up such waivers would see lower premiums, although the health plans would provide fewer benefits. States that donít adopt such waivers would have higher premiums, but their health plans would offer more benefits ó a trade-off.


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Reply CBO: Republican health care bill raises premiums for older, poor Americans by as much as 850% (Original post)
TomCADem May 2017 OP
iluvtennis May 2017 #1
lapfog_1 May 2017 #14
SergeStorms May 2017 #15
democratisphere May 2017 #2
snot May 2017 #3
iluvtennis May 2017 #19
snot May 2017 #22
iluvtennis May 2017 #23
sandensea May 2017 #4
TomCADem May 2017 #6
sandensea May 2017 #7
iluvtennis May 2017 #24
sandensea May 2017 #25
dalton99a May 2017 #8
sandensea May 2017 #10
dalton99a May 2017 #11
sandensea May 2017 #12
SergeStorms May 2017 #16
SunSeeker May 2017 #5
sarcasmo May 2017 #9
SergeStorms May 2017 #17
iluvtennis May 2017 #20
jiminvegas May 2017 #13
Vinca May 2017 #18
davekriss May 2017 #26
Turbineguy May 2017 #21
Skittles May 2017 #27

Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 11:10 PM

1. To use Hillary's words, it's cruel to poor, sick, and elderly. May Trump/his admin burn in hell

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Response to iluvtennis (Reply #1)

Thu May 25, 2017, 02:22 AM

14. why wait for hell... - n/t

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Response to iluvtennis (Reply #1)

Thu May 25, 2017, 04:17 AM

15. But he's....

a spanking new christian, since he started his campaign for preznit. He's honest too, I believe him. No one would kid around about something like that, right? So his chances of going to hell are slim, and none, at least according to the christian/fascist neo-cons.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 11:11 PM

2. redumbliCONs need to go back to kindergarten to learn basic math.

How to you come up with numbers from drumpf speeches.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 11:12 PM

3. I'm already paying more than half my income for health insurance.

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Response to snot (Reply #3)

Thu May 25, 2017, 11:31 AM

19. And I'm catching up with you...I have a daughter with mental health issue and am spending BIG $$

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Response to iluvtennis (Reply #19)

Sat May 27, 2017, 01:15 AM

22. It's really scary.

(Fwiw, the premiums I'm paying are for coverage for just one person.
I like the way I recently saw someone else put it: they want us to die within our means.
)

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Response to snot (Reply #22)

Sat May 27, 2017, 01:25 AM

23. We gotta keep our hope though. Let's look at Trump as being in a very bad storm...

..We will have this bad season, but the sun will shine again. We just gotta ge through the storm.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 11:12 PM

4. In other words, they'd be left without.

I doubt even 10% would retain coverage under those conditions. And I bet none of those 60-somethings are being counted by the CBO as being among those who'd lose health insurance.

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Response to sandensea (Reply #4)

Wed May 24, 2017, 11:21 PM

6. But Those Who Retain Coverage, Will Pay Dearly...

...if you are sick or have a family member who is sick, do you have any choice but to pay until you go into bankruptcy?

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Response to TomCADem (Reply #6)

Wed May 24, 2017, 11:28 PM

7. Exactly.

This is a crisis - a manufactured crisis - in the making. I'd go so far as to say it's an existential threat to the U.S. economy and the American way of life.

(remember when Republicans were, without real reasons, constantly harking about "threats to the American way of life"?)

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Response to sandensea (Reply #7)

Sat May 27, 2017, 01:28 AM

24. ++Agree

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Response to iluvtennis (Reply #24)

Sat May 27, 2017, 01:47 AM

25. It's a topsy-turvy world, isn't it.

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Response to sandensea (Reply #4)

Wed May 24, 2017, 11:47 PM

8. It's a death sentence for them

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #8)

Wed May 24, 2017, 11:58 PM

10. This, in my book, counts as attempted genocide.

Not so much against any particular ethnic group (although the disproportionate impact on minorities definitely figured in GOP calculations); but against the American people in general.

Anyone not wealthy enough to afford good health care out of their own pocket if need be - i.e. over 90% of us.

But for once, I think voters are starting to see this for what it is.

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Response to sandensea (Reply #10)

Thu May 25, 2017, 12:01 AM

11. It is treason and mass murder

They'll kill millions of Americans - ISIS is a joke compared to them

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #11)

Thu May 25, 2017, 12:06 AM

12. ...against all enemies: foreign and domestic.

And boy, have they come together in this administration.

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #8)

Thu May 25, 2017, 04:29 AM

16. It's a way for the GOP.......

to purge people from the welfare rolls, from the Medicaid rolls, from the disability rolls, from ANY of the American "dream" safety nets........AND KILL THEM! Hooray for the GOP! See all the money they're saving the taxpayers? Of course any savings will be passed on ONLY to the wealthy, but still, what a great job they're doing!

And these people DARE call themselves christians! These people DARE call themselves human beings! Other people's suffering means absolutely nothing to them. It's all about the money, money for people already obscenely wealthy. I don't know how much longer I can dwell in Republican World . It just isn't worth it, and I don't have the constitution to live like that.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 11:18 PM

5. K & R for exposure. nt

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Wed May 24, 2017, 11:54 PM

9. Doctor's out of barns and mini vans, coming to town near you.

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Response to sarcasmo (Reply #9)

Thu May 25, 2017, 04:36 AM

17. Trump's determined to turn......

America into a third world country. With a H-U-G-E fucking army, of course. No social programs, no safety net programs, no educational programs, just one BIG FUCKING ARMY and an endless supply of poor people, useful ONLY for cannon fodder for the military industrial complex. REPUBLICAN UTOPIA!

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Response to SergeStorms (Reply #17)

Thu May 25, 2017, 11:31 AM

20. Exactly.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2017, 12:52 AM

13. I am one of those.

I am 54 and I have a pre-existed condition that was caused by an accident at work at a business that is no longer open.

I will be at 5x instead of 3x of a younger person's premiums. Plus a 300 to 800 premium increase for my pre-existed condition.

If this passes, I will drop my insurance and hope for the best. And if something bad happens, I will just file for bankruptcy. If it's good enough for Orange Julius Caesar, it's good enough for me.

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Response to jiminvegas (Reply #13)

Thu May 25, 2017, 07:31 AM

18. That's what we had to do pre-Obamacare.

My husband was just tested for diabetes and the next thing you know the premiums were 3 times the mortgage payment. We went "naked" for 7 - 8 years and it was frightening . . . and painful. My hip totally deteriorated and by the time I got into the Ocare pre-existing condition pool I could barely walk. The idea of making older people and sick people pay more is immoral. If you're sick, chances are you aren't working all the time and haven't got any money. I am so grateful I'm on Medicare now.

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Response to Vinca (Reply #18)

Sat May 27, 2017, 11:53 AM

26. On Medicare?

You mean for the time being. The Republican plan is to turn the very popular Medicare program into a voucher system, giving older citizens some money to help buy private insurance. In other words, the unaffordability of the AHCA will spread into Medicare.

We've got to get the Republicans out of power!

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Thu May 25, 2017, 11:59 AM

21. Ah, but what you are missing is

they have the choice not to buy it. That's real freedom.

Republican Style Freedom.

And it saves right-wing death squads from having to shoot them.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sun May 28, 2017, 08:44 PM

27. let's be clear: they don't expect them to pay the money

they expect them to NOT HAVE INSURANCE

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