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Sun Apr 23, 2017, 10:47 AM

Trump budget chief: Border wall will 'protect millions of low income Americans' who lose Obamacare

Source: RawStory



DAVID EDWARDS
23 APR 2017 AT 10:35 ET

After years of Republican obstructionism under Democratic President Barack Obama, Trump Budget Director Mick Mulvaney said on Sunday that it was the Democrats who are guilty of “stunning” obstructionism because they will not negotiate on a bill to repeal the Affordable Care Act.

During an interview one Fox News Sunday, host Chris Wallace noted that the President Donald Trump had offered Democrats a deal: If you fund the border wall, payments to Obamacare will not be cut.

“You are holding hostage health insurance for millions of lower-income Americans,” Wallace pointed out.

“Actually, what I would say is they’re holding hostage national security,” Mulvaney replied. “Again, something they supported in the recent past when President Obama was in the Senate.”

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Reply Trump budget chief: Border wall will 'protect millions of low income Americans' who lose Obamacare (Original post)
DonViejo Apr 2017 OP
Judi Lynn Apr 2017 #1
Hortensis Apr 2017 #6
The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2017 #2
pangaia Apr 2017 #7
bucolic_frolic Apr 2017 #3
greatauntoftriplets Apr 2017 #4
pangaia Apr 2017 #8
jazzcat23 Apr 2017 #33
samnsara Apr 2017 #5
central scrutinizer Apr 2017 #9
Frances Apr 2017 #10
not fooled Apr 2017 #11
wildeyed Apr 2017 #12
jmowreader Apr 2017 #13
irisblue Apr 2017 #26
pkdu Apr 2017 #27
cstanleytech Apr 2017 #14
lark Apr 2017 #15
jazzcat23 Apr 2017 #34
leftyladyfrommo Apr 2017 #16
bronxiteforever Apr 2017 #17
alfredo Apr 2017 #18
Honeycombe8 Apr 2017 #19
Blue Idaho Apr 2017 #20
Honeycombe8 Apr 2017 #23
IronLionZion Apr 2017 #21
Nitram Apr 2017 #22
Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #24
bluestarone Apr 2017 #25
asiliveandbreathe Apr 2017 #28
bluecollar2 Apr 2017 #30
Lyricalinklines Apr 2017 #32
mdbl Apr 2017 #29
Fritz Walter Apr 2017 #31

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Apr 23, 2017, 10:50 AM

1. Unbelievably insulting, and stupid. He's a perfect fit for this regime. n/t

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Response to Judi Lynn (Reply #1)

Sun Apr 23, 2017, 11:19 AM

6. Yes. Lol. But let's not leave out the intense hypocrisy

and dishonesty that have also become hallmarks of the right wing. If their pols dropped those balls in public they'd be run out of office.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Apr 23, 2017, 10:51 AM

2. I don't know what the actual odds are

of being murdered by an undocumented immigrant vs. dying of a condition you can't afford to get treated for, but I think I'd prefer to have health insurance and take my chances with the immigrants. Somebody probably has the actual numbers for those odds and I suspect the difference is enormous.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #2)

Sun Apr 23, 2017, 11:33 AM

7. I know the odds without no stinkin' study.

A MILLION to ONE !

You can quote me as a reliable source.

PANGAIA aka................. Pangaia

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Apr 23, 2017, 10:52 AM

3. Astonishing stupidity

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Apr 23, 2017, 11:09 AM

4. That doesn't make sense.

Apparently Mulvaney thinks that people are gullible enough to buy that doublespeak.

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Response to greatauntoftriplets (Reply #4)

Sun Apr 23, 2017, 11:34 AM

8. THEY are.......

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Response to greatauntoftriplets (Reply #4)

Tue Apr 25, 2017, 11:52 PM

33. Well, yeah

they are! This isn't new, double speak is the republicon way, has been for decades. And the fools eat it right up, every time. You really CAN'T fix stupid! I've been trying for years....

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Apr 23, 2017, 11:11 AM

5. i think his entire admin team has been living in Russia these last 8 years....

...with no access to American news. They act like they just emerged from a cave and are pissed off cuz the light hurts their eyes.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Apr 23, 2017, 11:48 AM

9. National security must be a new dog whistle word

For the white supremacists to use, replacing "states' rights", law and order, welfare queen, thug.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Apr 23, 2017, 12:24 PM

10. Now you know what it was like growing up in Alabama

I had a great childhood: lots of freedom to roam the pine woods. Caring teachers. Good friends.

The only drawback was that defending slavery and segregation warped our thinking processes.

So much effort spent justifying wrong as right.

So much effort spent bowing to authority (Jeff Sessions was an Alabama senator for many years till Trump selected him as AG), which dictated that wrong was right.

All this talk of the evils of marijuana and crime waves in the city and make America great is just an excuse for putting more people of color in jail and prison.

We are witnessing what happened after Reconstruction. Just as the people back then talked about the mess that black politicians and voters had made after the War Between the States (Southern for Civil War), Trump talks about the mess that Obama made.

A commentator said that Trump will be judged on statistics at the end of his term. Wrong! Trump gets away with saying Obama left him a mess. And no one points out the statistics of when Obama became President and when he left. All the statistics were excellent.


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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Apr 23, 2017, 12:25 PM

11. That stupid wall

At this point, by now, "The Wall" has devolved into an abstract conception of "safety" and "keeping out brown people" for dump's idiot followers who live far away from the U.S.-Mexico border. dump keeps it on the front burner prolly because it's something "concrete" he could point to and say he did to fulfill campaign promises (unlike the truly important ones, like not trying to cut Social Security and Medicare).

An idiot pandering to idiots.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Apr 23, 2017, 12:42 PM

12. Trump and GOP are basically saying they will take healthcare ways from their own constituents

to pay for the wall. If I was Dem leadership, I would play that game of chicken. Because we KNOW that cutting O-care is unpopular. And they still haven't explained how they will pay for the wall. More taxes? Deficit spending? Neither option will be popular with their base. They will blink fast.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Apr 23, 2017, 01:42 PM

13. I could never be a talk show host...

"Good morning. Welcome to Jim and Laila, the show with a price for stupidity. We're your hosts. I'm Jim, and across the table from me is retired light heavyweight champion Laila Ali. You all know how this works: every time a guest says something stupid, Laila punches his lights out. And with that, let's bring out our first Trump Administration official!"

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #13)

Mon Apr 24, 2017, 02:40 PM

26. If you do that, I would reconnect cable or buy your podcast.

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #13)

Mon Apr 24, 2017, 02:42 PM

27. LOL....I'd pay extra to watch that show. nt

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Apr 23, 2017, 01:52 PM

14. At this point our only hope is President Lisa Simpson. NT

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Apr 23, 2017, 01:55 PM

15. They wish!

The public knows Dems put Obamacare in placee and know that Repugs have vowed to repeal it, with no replacement in sight, for 8 years. They have no plan, other than killing poor and middle class people who don't get benefits from their work place. When Obamacare gets gutted (if the assholes can ever agree on the shape of this) it will be totally done by repugs and Dems will not sign off on the destruction of the working class. Repugs will own it, lock, stock, and barrel and they will be punished. Especially if they change Medicaid or ever worse Medicare into a voucher program that covers nothing, which is their true aim with this. They want government spending nothing on anyone but the rich. In fact, they want to steal our hard earned $ and give it to the rich. Yeah, rich Repugs will approve, but how about all the low income folks that stupidy supported drumpf? They will get screwed worse than anyone and will be ripe for the picking, at least any that got sick or that had family or friends that got sick and are far worse off or even dead because of drumpf and his killer krew.

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Response to lark (Reply #15)

Wed Apr 26, 2017, 12:00 AM

34. Yes, lark, you're right

They will get screwed, (so will the rest of us) But I'm pretty sure they will still be blaming the Dems. So I pray the Dems in congress hold together to oppose everything, thus, the repugs get the blame since they are in the majority. This will have to be told to these Republicon voters who continue to re-elect their tormentors. "Your party is in control, your party is doing this to you, they hold all 3 branches of government...don't like it? Vote them out next time, period!"

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Apr 23, 2017, 03:16 PM

16. The wall will keep the poor from going to Mexico

for health care that they can afford.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Apr 23, 2017, 03:59 PM

17. I don't it's fair to ask a coal miner to pay Mulvaneys salary!

Unbelievable that with total control of both houses and the White House they try this bullshite.
The American public knows that the GOP has the most power since 1928 and while elections, even fixed ones I guess, have consequences so it also brings accountability to the governing party.
And man do these ass clowns hate accountability.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Apr 23, 2017, 06:37 PM

18. That wall will keep us in.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Apr 23, 2017, 09:51 PM

19. Soooo...that means they don't have the Republican votes to fund it? Sweet. nt

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #19)

Mon Apr 24, 2017, 12:29 AM

20. Exactly...

They should have enough republican votes to do as they damn well please - but majority House and Senate members know they will get turfed out of office if they obey the insane ramblings of Herr Trump.

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Response to Blue Idaho (Reply #20)

Mon Apr 24, 2017, 01:56 PM

23. +1 nt

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Apr 24, 2017, 09:04 AM

21. The people killing Americans

are not immigrants. They are greedy assholes who want to take away people's health insurance and let us die quickly to save us from some fictional killer immigrants.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Apr 24, 2017, 10:05 AM

22. That's right, like, the wall will be built with anti-bacterial concrete and healing herbs.

They'll have defibrillation stations spaced 500 meters apart, and First-Aid kits available from vending machines.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Apr 24, 2017, 02:12 PM

24. "Burn the Village to Protect It." Logic is not one of RepubliCONs strong points.


Or they idiotically think that voters are so stupid they won't see through the CON.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Apr 24, 2017, 02:28 PM

25. Trump would

Sell his mother to highest bidder just to build that dam wall

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Apr 24, 2017, 02:43 PM

28. Hey Mulvaney - we don't negotiate with terrorists...nor do we take

kindly to being held hostage..

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Response to asiliveandbreathe (Reply #28)

Tue Apr 25, 2017, 06:52 AM

30. Bingo !!!!

Your line should be the standard line for Pelosi and Schumer and the DNC.

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Response to asiliveandbreathe (Reply #28)

Tue Apr 25, 2017, 08:25 PM

32. Exactly! I'm so tired of being a hostage citizen! grrr

Don't mind paying more if it actually produces progressive results. I was going to respond similarly. Thank you for saying this!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Apr 25, 2017, 06:18 AM

29. uhhh excuse me but twump didn't say we had to pay for it

If trump can't make Mexico pay for it, don't build it.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Apr 25, 2017, 11:58 AM

31. He's following the Turd Blossom playbook to the letter

Fear, Smear, and Queer

Yesterday the pest control technician I let into my house ranted about how scary the Mexican immigrants are. Drumpf and his minions -- including Mulvaney -- are playing on the fears of the hard-of-thinking, including this guy who sprays toxic chemicals for a living.

I did not engage him in discussion. But I am re-evaluating whether or not I want to let this moron back into my house.

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