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Fri Apr 21, 2017, 09:09 AM

 

Trump: Attack in Paris will have 'big effect' on their election

Source: Politico

President Donald Trump predicted Friday morning that a shooting on Paris’ famous Champs Elysées “will have a big effect on presidential election” in France, voting for which begins on Sunday.

Thursday night in Paris, gunman opened fire on police officers, killing one and injuring two others. The gunman then fled and was killed by another police officer in a shootout that also hit a foreign tourist. French President Francois Hollande said the shooting was “likely terrorist-related” and the Islamic State claimed credit for the attack after it occurred.

“Another terrorist attack in Paris. The people of France will not take much more of this. Will have a big effect on presidential election!” Trump wrote on Twitter Friday morning.

The U.S. president has not officially backed a candidate in the French election, but far-right candidate Marine Le Pen is widely seen as holding views, especially on immigration and terrorism, that are close to Trump’s. Le Pen, one of the election’s frontrunners who spoke Thursday of her “anger” following the attack and insisted that France possesses “the means to defend itself,” met with Trump in his Manhattan skyscraper during the transition period.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/04/21/trump-attack-french-election-237445


Trump hopes this will help Le Pen get elected. Odd how his hopes = most people's fears, ain't it?

PS: Does anybody here know a great cure for insomnia? I've already tried the top two.

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Reply Trump: Attack in Paris will have 'big effect' on their election (Original post)
Dammit Jim Apr 21 OP
Phoenix61 Apr 21 #1
get the red out Apr 21 #2
leftynyc Apr 21 #12
nyabingi Apr 21 #18
LeftishBrit Apr 21 #3
ansible Apr 21 #15
LeftishBrit Apr 21 #22
Chakaconcarne Apr 21 #4
steve2470 Apr 21 #5
Coventina Apr 21 #6
Demonaut Apr 22 #28
bucolic_frolic Apr 21 #7
leftynyc Apr 21 #13
karynnj Apr 21 #17
bucolic_frolic Apr 21 #25
muntrv Apr 21 #8
BeyondGeography Apr 21 #9
DK504 Apr 21 #10
Turbineguy Apr 21 #11
IronLionZion Apr 21 #14
karynnj Apr 21 #16
David__77 Apr 21 #19
NewRedDawn Apr 21 #20
TeamPooka Apr 21 #21
alcibiades_mystery Apr 21 #23
KittyWampus Apr 21 #24
Thomas Hurt Apr 21 #26
Demonaut Apr 22 #27
dalton99a Apr 23 #29
roamer65 Apr 23 #30
Name removed Apr 24 #31

Response to Dammit Jim (Original post)

Fri Apr 21, 2017, 09:18 AM

1. Apparently, I have gotten incredibly cynical

I know it says the Islamic State claimed credit for it but how do we know it wasn't Russia? It's not like they haven't ever had someone shot and they certainly have the tech skills to make a statement look like it was being issued by the Islamic State. Or maybe they just gave them a big donation and asked them to do it for them? I know, crazy, right?

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Response to Phoenix61 (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 21, 2017, 09:22 AM

2. The thought occurred to me as well

I have been rendered completely cynical.

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Response to Phoenix61 (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 21, 2017, 10:37 AM

12. What does that matter?

Both russia and isis are hoping for a right wing government.

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Response to Phoenix61 (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 21, 2017, 01:06 PM

18. You're right

Russia is also probably responsible for backing ISIS and other jihadist groups in Syria as a backdoor way to takeover and occupy that country. Word on the street is that Putin himself is also working with US-based pharmaceutical companies and doctors to flood neighborhoods with opioid painkillers in order to "zombify" the American population.

I personally think he ordered and directed the 9/11 attacks as well.

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Response to Dammit Jim (Original post)

Fri Apr 21, 2017, 09:30 AM

3. You know who else are probably hoping for a LePen victory?.

ISIS, that's who. It would destabilize Europe, which is to their advantage. There is reliable intelligence reporting to the effect that they were pleased about Brexit, for that reason.

It had occurred to me for some time that, while of course ISIS never need much of a motive for committing and instigating violence, they might arrange an attack in France just before the election, in part so as to increase LePen's chances. Coincidence or not, now they have.

I hope that France do NOT play into the hands of the terrorists, and vote to ruin their own country even worse than the UK and US have

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Response to LeftishBrit (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 21, 2017, 11:41 AM

15. France is a powder keg IMO, no matter who wins the results will end badly

There are just way too many ethnic and religious tensions in France these days, it's not going to end well

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Response to ansible (Reply #15)

Fri Apr 21, 2017, 03:27 PM

22. No more than in loads of other places.

I'm next door to France. I read the French press. I'm not blind to their problems, but I have faith in their ability to carry on, so long as they don't succumb to the wiles of LePen.



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Response to Dammit Jim (Original post)

Fri Apr 21, 2017, 09:47 AM

4. Do they have electronic voting machines?

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Response to Dammit Jim (Original post)

Fri Apr 21, 2017, 09:51 AM

5. you have melatonin ? it's OTC and works for me nt

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Response to Dammit Jim (Original post)

Fri Apr 21, 2017, 09:53 AM

6. Valerian root is also very effective. It comes in capsules or you can brew it as tea.

As someone who has had long battles with insomnia, I can give you more ideas if you want.

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Response to Coventina (Reply #6)

Sat Apr 22, 2017, 11:45 PM

28. not valerian steel, kills the white walkers

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Response to Dammit Jim (Original post)

Fri Apr 21, 2017, 10:08 AM

7. In other words

despite Le Pen slipping to 3rd in the polls over the last weeks, they have
this election all rigged up too!

Word of mouth, stand-in voters, an official or two on the take at strategic
points, a little wireless flipping, demoralizing opposition with online
discussion boards ....

ain't that how it's done like a Christmas Goose?

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #7)

Fri Apr 21, 2017, 10:38 AM

13. There is a crazy high amount of

undecided voters. I'm thinking they're just too embarrassed to admit they're voting for Le Pen. This incident will not help.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #7)

Fri Apr 21, 2017, 11:58 AM

17. I have been following it, and have never seen her in third place

Since March, Le Pan and Macron have been very close - with both having polls where they were in the lead. Neither are anywhere near the 50% that would preclude a second election. There have been some polls where the next two candidates, especially Melechon, the communist candidate, whose support is surging, MIGHT keep her out of the second round.

It is amazing how close all four candidates are polling in the first round.

However, Le Pen loses badly to any of the others, especially Macron and Fillon, in the second round.

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Response to karynnj (Reply #17)

Fri Apr 21, 2017, 04:26 PM

25. I thought I read an article yesterday

on bloomberg or reuters that said she'd slipped 5 % from 27-28%
to 23 and was a hair behind #2 if polls are right

But I can't find the article at the moment.

It definitely said she's not closing the deal with voters.

Of course I might have read it at 6am and was sleepy

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Response to Dammit Jim (Original post)

Fri Apr 21, 2017, 10:12 AM

8. Marine LePen's father was an Algerian war criminal.

She wants to re-fight the Algerian war?

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Response to Dammit Jim (Original post)

Fri Apr 21, 2017, 10:32 AM

9. Make ISIS great again

Yay!

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Response to Dammit Jim (Original post)

Fri Apr 21, 2017, 10:33 AM

10. Everything old is new again.

After what happened in WWII you'd thinkthey would be smarter than electing Marine La Pen as president.

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Response to Dammit Jim (Original post)

Fri Apr 21, 2017, 10:34 AM

11. Oh good.

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I was worried that the attack would affect their election.

Let's hope the Le Pen voters look at how well things are going in the U.S.

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Response to Dammit Jim (Original post)

Fri Apr 21, 2017, 11:09 AM

14. Insomnia

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1018944118#post3

White Nationalists can cause a lot of us to lose sleep

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Response to Dammit Jim (Original post)

Fri Apr 21, 2017, 11:45 AM

16. However, it is extremely unlikely that Le Pen, polling in the low 20s

will get over the 50% threshold to win in the first round. She is already favored to be first or second - thus getting into the second round. In the second round, she is polled as losing by a huge margin to each of the other three possibilities (Macron and Fillon get over 60 percent, Melechron would get in the high 50s.)

The most likely result of the first round was Macron/Le Pen as the second round choice before the attack; and Macron/Le Pen after the attack. President Obama called Macron yesterday - and Macron put that information out. Macron and John kerry met in March - and Macron tweeted a photo of that meeting. Neither Obama or Kerry, both well liked in France, endorsed Macron. This may be a case where a hint in that direction is better than anything overt, that could offend some as interference. (Note how ironic that Trump is tweeting his preference from DC as the sitting President for a French NATIONALIST. Now consider Trump's popularity in France -- other than Le Pen's base, who would this make more likely to support her?)

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Response to Dammit Jim (Original post)

Fri Apr 21, 2017, 01:35 PM

19. Best wishes to Jean-Luc Melenchon!

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Response to Dammit Jim (Original post)

Fri Apr 21, 2017, 02:27 PM

20. Just a thought.

 

I wonder If Putin is sending in his Chechen thugs (extremists) to get the chaos & governments to his liking?

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Response to Dammit Jim (Original post)

Fri Apr 21, 2017, 02:59 PM

21. Republicans love fear-based decision making in voters.

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Response to Dammit Jim (Original post)

Fri Apr 21, 2017, 03:54 PM

23. Putin whispering in his ear

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Response to Dammit Jim (Original post)

Fri Apr 21, 2017, 03:54 PM

24. Alchohol is not good for sleep issues. Unplug from internet/phone by 10:30,

 

use low lighting after that time will getting ready for bed.

Try pink/brown noise.

Melatonin/valerian/high dosage tryptophan.

Breath in deeply to count of 4, hold for 7, exhale at 8. Deep breathing effects nervous system to relax.

I use Xanax when needed on a semi-regular basis at night. No addictive tendencies when it comes to drugs so it's good for me personally. Stay far away if you are addictive type.

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Response to Dammit Jim (Original post)

Fri Apr 21, 2017, 04:29 PM

26. If you are a French voter and you are....

as racist and paranoid as the Fat Fascist 45 it might affect your vote, but then again if you are fascist you were probably already behind the Le Pen.

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Response to Dammit Jim (Original post)

Sat Apr 22, 2017, 11:44 PM

27. he's such a heartless piece of shit...completely unaware or... evil

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Response to Dammit Jim (Original post)

Sun Apr 23, 2017, 08:47 AM

29. I wouldn't be surprised if Putin supplied weapons to ISIS-inspired terrorists in Europe

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Response to Dammit Jim (Original post)

Sun Apr 23, 2017, 07:41 PM

30. Thanks for endorsing Le Pen, Dump.

You guaranteed her defeat by doing it.

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