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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 03:45 PM Apr 2017

Trump defends failure to destroy al-Shayrat base runways as Syrian air force resumes bombing runs

Source: RawStory



TOM BOGGIONI
08 APR 2017 AT 15:24 ET

While Trump was on his best Twitter behavior Saturday morning, saying it was a “great honor to have President Xi Jinping and Madame Peng Liyuan of China as our guests,” a more defensive Trump emerged Saturday afternoon regarding his Thursday Syria missile attack.

With reports that the Syrians launched more bombing attacks from the al-Shayrat military airfield less than 24 hours after the 59 Tomahawk missiles were launched into the Middle East country, Trump attempted to explain via Twitter the thinking behind the attack.

“The reason you don’t generally hit runways is that they are easy and inexpensive to quickly fix (fill in and top)!” Trump tweeted, no doubt calling upon his experience as a property developer.

Two days after Trump okayed the attack, questions are being raised over the U.S. notifying Russia military officials of the attack — who in turned warned the Syrians — as well as why no attempt was made to totally incapacitate the airfield or destroy any chemical weapons stocks.

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/trump-defends-failure-to-destroy-al-shayrat-base-runways-as-syrian-air-force-resumes-bombing-runs/

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Trump defends failure to destroy al-Shayrat base runways as Syrian air force resumes bombing runs (Original Post) DonViejo Apr 2017 OP
I called him liar on twitter and copied benld74 Apr 2017 #1
Nice...we need to keep taunting him... iluvtennis Apr 2017 #17
Publicly available documents would say otherwise. Igel Apr 2017 #28
It will make your head spin faster than Meals on Wheels IronLionZion Apr 2017 #2
Iwould have laughed in the guys face weissmam Apr 2017 #6
So what exactly was accomplished? ProudLib72 Apr 2017 #3
My guess is 5+% rise in approval rating NoMoreRepugs Apr 2017 #13
Only the arrogantly stupid will approve what drumpf did. joshdawg Apr 2017 #24
That's our senate you're talking about! RainCaster Apr 2017 #25
Yep, that's the republican Senate I'm talking about. joshdawg Apr 2017 #26
Fantastic bedazzlement zentrum Apr 2017 #18
Fake president makes fake war. lark Apr 2017 #4
Small missiles with small warheads. Just like dumpster pangaia Apr 2017 #7
Wag the dog IronLionZion Apr 2017 #8
+1 dalton99a Apr 2017 #9
He knows so much more than the generals. NT mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2017 #5
Hey Tomahawk cruise missile sexual predator turbinetree Apr 2017 #10
A mission with no objective. KeepItReal Apr 2017 #11
Oh, there was an objective. tanyev Apr 2017 #16
In the top photo, everyone is looking at the monitor except Jared. He's looking japple Apr 2017 #19
He did exactly what kacekwl Apr 2017 #12
The reason you dont generally hit runways is that they are easy and inexpensive to quickly fix" That Guy 888 Apr 2017 #14
Hey folks , give credit where credit is due. nocalflea Apr 2017 #15
They coulda knocked out the runway 59 days in a row. rickford66 Apr 2017 #20
the lsos basically said it was a waste of American tax dollars randr Apr 2017 #21
I thought he wasn't going to let anyone know what his secret plan was... Thor_MN Apr 2017 #22
my brainwashed 1/2 sister is sharing a CNN interview of grateful Syrian. SleeplessinSoCal Apr 2017 #23
REALLY????????????????????? bluestarone Apr 2017 #27

benld74

(9,904 posts)
1. I called him liar on twitter and copied
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 03:50 PM
Apr 2017

Article showing what strike missed
And
That planes took off from strip next day
And went on strike of there own
FAIL!
SAD

iluvtennis

(19,844 posts)
17. Nice...we need to keep taunting him...
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 05:14 PM
Apr 2017

...and his statement about why we don't bomb runways is idiotic...no way did they repair runways and start using within 24 hours. His 59 Tomahawk cruise missile "attack" was simply a fireworks show.

Igel

(35,296 posts)
28. Publicly available documents would say otherwise.
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 07:19 PM
Apr 2017

In 1997 protocol and methods by the US airforce outlined several ways to repair a runway that was cratered. Turnaround time was 4 hours--less if things went well, a bit longer if there were problems.

That was 1997. Now, granted this is Syria, not the US, but Russia also could supply material and the entire process wasn't rocket science.

Moreover, getting it so two planes could take off was probably easier than returning it to full operability. There's no word if the two planes returned.

So general reports by those without an axe to grind is that it's a waste of time to take out runways--they're either thick or easily repairable. Unless, of course, there's a short-term reason--surprise attack in the next two hours and you want the planes grounded but not destroyed.

Otherwise, the smart thing is to destroy what can't be replaced in a few hours. Planes. Munitions. Men. Ground vehicles. Repair equipment and runways. Fuel depots.

All this is irrespective of whether any of these things were destroyed. But the idea that since the runways weren't destroyed or were operational 12-18 hours after the attack it was a failure sets a high bar: Destroying runways so that they're out of commission for months or a year. Sort of an irrealis assumption.

IronLionZion

(45,410 posts)
2. It will make your head spin faster than Meals on Wheels
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 03:54 PM
Apr 2017

Since it only cost a measly $60 million. A Trumper informed me that many Tomahawk missiles are nearing end of life so it was use them or lose them. Trump is just thinking of ways to find efficiency. Think of it as recycling.

Are you sick of winning yet?

weissmam

(905 posts)
6. Iwould have laughed in the guys face
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 04:08 PM
Apr 2017

if the purpose of the mission was a capability denial , then it was a failure

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
3. So what exactly was accomplished?
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 03:55 PM
Apr 2017

I've yet to figure that one out. Planes took off from the run way next day, so that means neither the planes nor the runway was affected. They dropped bombs on Hom, so that means their armory wasn't affected. They had pilots to fly the planes, so that means their pilots were not killed or wounded.

So WTF Li'l Donnie? Besides wasting $88 million, what did you accomplish?

joshdawg

(2,647 posts)
24. Only the arrogantly stupid will approve what drumpf did.
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 06:34 PM
Apr 2017

Some say that he looked "presidential" in his action.
Actually, he looked to be a hypocrite even larger than he was before, definitely not "presidential."

joshdawg

(2,647 posts)
26. Yep, that's the republican Senate I'm talking about.
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 06:49 PM
Apr 2017

Blindly ignorant and arrogantly stupid. Just like the drumpf supporters.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
18. Fantastic bedazzlement
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 05:17 PM
Apr 2017

....of MSM. Gorsuch and Bannon are not being talked about. And.....he's now confirmed that when he has low popularity ratings, just drop a bomb, kill!

lark

(23,083 posts)
4. Fake president makes fake war.
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 03:57 PM
Apr 2017

Tomahawk Viagra as someone else named it. Whatever you call it it's a fraud cooked up between drumpf and pootie to distract from the illegal and treacherous collusion and to try to boost drumpfs lowest in history poll #s.

turbinetree

(24,688 posts)
10. Hey Tomahawk cruise missile sexual predator
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 04:26 PM
Apr 2017

you are just one fucked up individual, you spent 95 million dollars ( 59) just on cruise missile, this doesn't count the costs of the ships and crew in the Mediterranean, then you come up with a idiot "tweet" while doing what shining up your golf clubs or waxing your golf cart for 3 million of tax payer dollars, then you decided along with your "fucked team" :

So when you had your fucking "situation room party" set up on your fucking property (to make it look like you knew what you were doing as it was being used as another prop in some apprentice room) and bilking the american taxpayers for being at your fucking business, and having your fucking cronies from the Bank of Cyprus sitting there with his doofus face glues to the video game, and then having your corporate lackey from Exxon-Mobil looking on thinking about his "oil deal with fucking megalomaniac in Russia, and then having your other fucking Goldman Sachs blood octopuses looking on, and then you have the audacity to then come with a fucking tweet that says :


“The reason you don’t generally hit runways is that they are easy and inexpensive to quickly fix (fill in and top)

Do you fucking realize there ass****, that the first time a cruise missile was used was during the Falklands War and the British had to use a different tactic, so just for a reminder here is what a fucking cruise missile can do when used.









FU dumpster and the horse you road in on

You are "not" my president and neither is your supreme court stolen bench lackey Gorsuch, just for added measure








KeepItReal

(7,769 posts)
11. A mission with no objective.
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 04:27 PM
Apr 2017

They didn't want to crater and destroy the runways (you'd use BLU-107 Durandals for that, not Tomahawks).

They didn't want to take out Syrian aircrew (by giving advance notice to Russia so everyone could evacuate the base).

They didn't want to destroy chemical weapons for fear of releasing contents (Did he know where they were on that base? Would stored chemical weapons hit in an attack hurt people in and around the base? Is that worse than the untouched weapons being able to be used later for future attacks on civilians?)

Planes are now flying from that very same base, attacking anti-Assad forces and civilians.

What did that 59 Tomahawk strike mission accomplish?

tanyev

(42,541 posts)
16. Oh, there was an objective.
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 05:11 PM
Apr 2017

The media now has this picture of a Trump situation room



instead of this picture of a Trump situation room.

japple

(9,819 posts)
19. In the top photo, everyone is looking at the monitor except Jared. He's looking
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 05:40 PM
Apr 2017

at Trump. In fact, he is glaring at Trump. Is Jared our new president? I think he is!!!!!! Yay, Jarvanka, our new President! Hope SNL has a few surprises tonight!

 

That Guy 888

(1,214 posts)
14. The reason you dont generally hit runways is that they are easy and inexpensive to quickly fix"
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 04:49 PM
Apr 2017

The US military has special munitions to decommission runways. They usually involve an armored shell and rocket engine to burrow deep into the runway before exploding. With 59 tomahawk missiles, the base should have been unusable.

A fake attack from a fake pResident. Sad.

nocalflea

(1,387 posts)
15. Hey folks , give credit where credit is due.
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 05:05 PM
Apr 2017

They also took out a mess hall .

According to the russians , for what it's worth :

http://eng.mil.ru/en/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12117678%40egNews


At least they hit something ...?

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
22. I thought he wasn't going to let anyone know what his secret plan was...
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 06:07 PM
Apr 2017

Instead, he lets the Russians know exactly what and when - should be grounds for treason.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,107 posts)
23. my brainwashed 1/2 sister is sharing a CNN interview of grateful Syrian.
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 06:16 PM
Apr 2017

And saying how CNN expected a complaint rather than a "thank you" to 45.

Also watched Charlie Rose who found Syrian doctors to cheer this and even Ian Bremmer to reluctantly praise this decision in condition of too many factors to go into. Surely we're being played. It seems clear this was meant to look like one thing and yet be another for our benefit and not that of Syrians.

The bubbles are as far apart as ever. But possibly may burst with next action or non action.

bluestarone

(16,900 posts)
27. REALLY?????????????????????
Sat Apr 8, 2017, 07:00 PM
Apr 2017

anybody actually see the pictures where 20 aircraft were destroyed?????????????? or is this FAKE NEWS too?

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