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Thu Mar 30, 2017, 02:21 AM

Badly Misinformed Lawmaker Thinks Our Warm Bodies May Be Causing Climate Change

Source: Huffington Post

03/29/2017 03:52 pm ET | Updated 8 hours ago

Spoiler alert: Republican Scott Wagner is very wrong.
By Michael McLaughlin



A Republican state senator running for governor of Pennsylvania shared some unusual views this week about what’s causing climate change.

Scott Wagner told a Harrisburg audience on Tuesday that the body heat from the planet’s growing population might be responsible for rising temperatures.

“We have more people. You know, humans have warm bodies. So is heat coming off?” Wagner said, according to State Impact Pennsylvania, an NPR project. “Things are changing, but I think we are, as a society, doing the best we can.”

The lawmaker was speaking to a receptive audience of rural county officials about loosening regulations on the natural gas industry.







Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/climate-change-misinformation-scott-wagner_us_58dbeecce4b01ca7b4292dc5?section=us_politics



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Republican State Senator Scott Wagner

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Reply Badly Misinformed Lawmaker Thinks Our Warm Bodies May Be Causing Climate Change (Original post)
Judi Lynn Mar 2017 OP
No Vested Interest Mar 2017 #1
Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #11
Towlie Mar 2017 #15
byronius Mar 2017 #22
Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #31
oldcynic Mar 2017 #36
Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #45
jpak Mar 2017 #17
Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #32
jpak Mar 2017 #34
hatrack Mar 2017 #25
cstanleytech Mar 2017 #38
YOHABLO Mar 2017 #2
cstanleytech Mar 2017 #39
milestogo Mar 2017 #3
Warpy Mar 2017 #4
Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #13
duhneece Mar 2017 #16
cstanleytech Mar 2017 #40
Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #44
oldcynic Mar 2017 #37
TEB Mar 2017 #5
BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #6
TEB Mar 2017 #8
ck4829 Mar 2017 #7
packman Mar 2017 #9
Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #14
angrychair Mar 2017 #21
Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #30
Xipe Totec Mar 2017 #10
Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #12
forgotmylogin Mar 2017 #18
Nitram Mar 2017 #19
angrychair Mar 2017 #20
Mc Mike Mar 2017 #23
mdbl Mar 2017 #24
guillaumeb Mar 2017 #26
Snackshack Mar 2017 #27
OregonBlue Mar 2017 #28
jeanmarc Mar 2017 #29
IronLionZion Mar 2017 #33
rickford66 Mar 2017 #35
truthisfreedom Mar 2017 #41
tclambert Mar 2017 #42
lunatica Mar 2017 #43
muriel_volestrangler Mar 2017 #46
dembotoz Mar 2017 #47
TexasBushwhacker Mar 2017 #48

Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 02:26 AM

1. I've read that the gases given off by cows and cattle may add to climate change.

Could it be that humans also give off gasses that are warming the planet?

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Response to No Vested Interest (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 07:44 AM

11. the human population as a whole probably emits a significant amount of methane

 

but not as much as cows and other livestock

Animal agriculture is a real contributor to climate change, and we should all eat less meat

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Response to Fast Walker 52 (Reply #11)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 08:17 AM

15. I think you're being very unsensitive to those who have to eat what they can get.

http://www.thp.org/knowledge-center/know-your-world-facts-about-hunger-poverty/

World Hunger. 795 million people – or one in nine people in the world – do not have enough to eat. 98% of the world's undernourished people live in developing countries.

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Response to Towlie (Reply #15)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 09:48 AM

22. Meat is incredibly inefficient. It takes ten times the grain to produce meat.

Pollutes everything, uses ten times the water --

There's no justification. At all. It's a bad habit.

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Response to Towlie (Reply #15)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 12:03 PM

31. it's cheaper and easier to feed people vegetarian food

 

there are rare places like Tibet where meat is more practical to eat, but I don't see why what I said was insensitive.

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Response to Fast Walker 52 (Reply #11)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 01:46 PM

36. How about eating meat and having less human babies n/t

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Response to oldcynic (Reply #36)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 05:36 PM

45. definitely!

 

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Response to No Vested Interest (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 08:39 AM

17. A cow emits 400 liters of methane per day

Humans less than 0.1 L per day

The moran spews bullshit

yup

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Response to jpak (Reply #17)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 12:04 PM

32. wow, that's way more than I thought for cows

 

thanks

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Response to Fast Walker 52 (Reply #32)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 01:01 PM

34. It varies with the cow and diet

The range is 100-400 L per day.

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Response to No Vested Interest (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 10:47 AM

25. We're not ruminants - it doesn't work that way

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Response to No Vested Interest (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 02:19 PM

38. To be honest I think when it comes down to it that its going to be a combo of things that

are causing it from our purely large population to our industry and our roads and parking lots which act as deserts and heat sinks to our houses which we cool and then the heat from the AC we cool them with has to go somewhere also our damming of rivers to create artificial lakes.
In other words is a huge ass list.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 02:30 AM

2. It's methane gas that Republican's pull out of their ass.

 

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Response to YOHABLO (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 02:20 PM

39. Wouldnt most Repugnants first remove their heads from their anus for the gas to escape?

Or do they have a blowhole?

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 03:10 AM

3. A room full of Republicans must have a lot of hot air in it

so I can understand why he thinks this way.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 03:13 AM

4. Well, he's right but not for the reason he thinks

(If he's capable of actual thought, that is)

The truth is that 7 billion of us needing cooking fires and biomass to eat are definitely contributing to warming through overcultivation and overgrazing marginal land and increasing desertification. We're also on our way to 12 billion by 2050. That is scary beyond belief.

With increasing atmospheric methane, a more powerful greenhouse gas, we might already be past the point of no return.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #4)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 07:46 AM

13. That is true. Also, internal combustion engines generate a not insignificant amount of heat

 

whereas electric cars wouldn't

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Response to Fast Walker 52 (Reply #13)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 08:33 AM

16. Actually, at the level you suggest, he IS right...

Think of all the cold rooms with no heat source warming up when the room was really packed with humans.

I'm not suggesting he's SO right about the rest, but I gotta say, it's an interesting thought I'd not heard or thought of before. But it makes it that much more important to make the changes we need to make to reduce climate change.

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Response to Fast Walker 52 (Reply #13)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 02:24 PM

40. Hmm but to create the batteries and build those cars still takes industry as they cant be grown

and that industry from mining to smelting to assembling it takes energy in varies forms not to mention when the vehicle is completed it has to be transported which = more energy needed.
In other words nothing is free not even clean energy sources as it all has an impact some of it is just spread out more and or is easier to mitigate.

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #40)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 05:35 PM

44. sadly, yes

 

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Response to Warpy (Reply #4)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 02:06 PM

37. might? might?

The point of no return was probably reached when humans figured out how to control fire. The only reason I'm grateful Hillary is not president it that now she can't be blamed for the climate disaster that has already arrived. Dig down under the middle-east conflicts and you will find lack of water. The following is only another aspect of the worldwide problem:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-39442270
Melting ice sheets makes headlines because they can be measured. Who the hell cares about remote thirsty African cattle?

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 05:07 AM

5. This clown wants to run for governor next election

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 05:42 AM

6. We have to make sure that we re-elect Tom Wolf (D) as our PA governor.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #6)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 06:12 AM

8. That wright

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 05:57 AM

7. Oh good God.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 07:27 AM

9. Maybe he has a point - 98.2 x 5 billion (give or take)

491 billion degrees (and that ain't counting all the cats and dogs and wee little thingies running around on the earth).

MY GAWD - Now I know why the ice caps are melting !!!!



You know - this ties in very neatly with Repuke Health non-care, decrease the population and save the earth - Pure genius.

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Response to packman (Reply #9)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 07:47 AM

14. science-- how does it work?

 

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Response to Fast Walker 52 (Reply #14)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 09:31 AM

21. Magic underwear?

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Response to angrychair (Reply #21)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 12:01 PM

30. LOL!

 

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 07:31 AM

10. Dim bulbs produce hardly any heat (or light) at all. nt

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 07:45 AM

12. and solar panels suck up the sunlight and make the planet colder!

 

the stupid, it burns.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 08:51 AM

18. So that's why they're trying to kill us all?

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 09:16 AM

19. It is clear that many conservativews think science is just whatever your current opinion is.

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Response to Nitram (Reply #19)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 09:30 AM

20. Yes.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 10:38 AM

23. Typical repug. Truculent, stupid, supremely cocksure. Rec, nt.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 10:46 AM

24. Actually, it's all the methane coming out of Repuglican's like his mouth

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 10:55 AM

26. So if we all turn up our air conditioners,

and open up the doors,

the problem of climate warming will be solved?

Or, we could all sit in our refrigerators and bring down our body temperature.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 10:57 AM

27. 250-400 BTU's...per human...

I think he is on to something here...

/facepalm

This is right up there with wind farms are bad because the drag they cause would pull the Earth out of its orbit.


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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 11:14 AM

28. A Fox News viewer.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 11:36 AM

29. What an idiot

We can't keep electing idiots as governors.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 12:47 PM

33. The growing population is a big part of the problem

the growing world population is contributing to global warming, but mainly because of using more resources for industry and land for farming while destroying forests.

But it can be managed. Come on people. Anyone who has lived a few decades knows that air and water pollution used to be much worse back in the day in Western industrialized countries like the USA. Our population was obviously much lower back then. Pollution has gotten better through better policy and planning even though our population has grown.

Even the hole in the Ozone layer has been getting smaller and is expected to be closed completely in 20-30 years unless it gets Trumped.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 01:42 PM

35. Let me think about this in simple terms.

A person get their energy from stored energy from the food they eat. So there's some loss there. Some of the ingested energy is turned into kinetic energy. People move etc. So there may be an actual loss of heat from people. A crowd in a closed room doesn't take into account the ingested energy from food. I haven't studied thermo since the mid 60's so I know some others out there will have something to say about my analysis, one way or the other.

I should have added: a person is in effect a heater. There are no 100% efficient heaters or any devices known to science.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 04:25 PM

41. Doing the best we can? Trump is undoing as fast as he can.

That's not "doing the best we can".

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 04:34 PM

42. Just when you think people can't get any dumber . . .

along comes a Republican Congressman. If it's not something about climate change, they'll say something about rape.

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 04:51 PM

43. Another reason to deny health care. Less people, less global heating



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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 06:13 PM

46. Clearly, we should replace the warm-blooded humans with lizards (nt)

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 06:20 PM

47. cause he's hot blooded check it and see, got a fever of 103...cmon voters do ya do more than dance

hot blooded hot blooded

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Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 06:43 PM

48. My cousin and I went through menopause at the same time

My aunt said we were the cause of global warming. Pretty good joke for an elderly elementary school teacher.

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