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Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 10:41 PM Mar 2017

To fund border wall, Trump administration weighs cuts to Coast Guard, airport security

Source: Washington Post

The Trump administration, searching for money to build the president’s planned multibillion-dollar border wall and crack down on illegal immigration, is weighing significant cuts to the Coast Guard, the Transportation Security Administration and other agencies focused on national security threats, according to a draft plan.

The proposal, drawn up by the Office of Management and Budget (OMB), also would slash the budget of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, which provides disaster relief after hurricanes, tornadoes and other natural disasters. The Coast Guard’s $9.1 billion budget in 2017 would be cut 14 percent to about $7.8 billion, while the TSA and FEMA budgets would be reduced about 11 percent each to $4.5 billion and $3.6 billion, respectively.

The cuts are proposed even as the planned budget for the Department of Homeland Security, which oversees all of them, grows 6.4 percent to $43.8 billion, according to the plan, which was obtained by The Washington Post. Some $2.9 billion of that would go to building the wall on the U.S.-Mexico border, with $1.9 billion funding “immigration detention beds” and other Immigration and Customs Enforcement expenses and $285 million set aside to hire 500 more Border Patrol agents and 1,000 more ICE agents and support staffers.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/to-fund-border-wall-trump-administration-weighs-cuts-to-coast-guard-airport-security/2017/03/07/ba4a8e5c-036f-11e7-ad5b-d22680e18d10_story.html?tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.66fe4830babd



fucking insanity... I can't freaking believe this
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To fund border wall, Trump administration weighs cuts to Coast Guard, airport security (Original Post) Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 OP
If Trump Did Not Skip Security Briefings... TomCADem Mar 2017 #1
Half right. Airport security theater is a worthless joke. Towlie Mar 2017 #12
well, we do need airport security Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #35
They'll increase the groping and privacy invasion IronLionZion Mar 2017 #45
That's the idea... pangaia Mar 2017 #28
Great. Then when they drill holes in it, and they will sooner or later, then all those organizations caroldansen Mar 2017 #2
No holes needed. They'll just tunnel under it. nt BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #33
With the lack of background checking, the drug dealers will probably be hired to build the wall. yardwork Mar 2017 #48
LOL They'll be the biggest lobby for the job. BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #50
with less coast guard, vlyons Mar 2017 #52
And with them also gutting FEMA BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #55
The costs of this wall would far exceed any of its so-called benefits. n/t Beartracks Mar 2017 #3
Trumplethinskin doesn't have accomplices that can profit from the Coast Guard or Airport Security Thor_MN Mar 2017 #4
Exactly. yardwork Mar 2017 #49
Oh goodie! CountAllVotes Mar 2017 #5
Reducing airport and coastal security for the illusory protection of a wall. drm604 Mar 2017 #6
Actually, it makes perfect sense jmowreader Mar 2017 #18
Republicans prison charges $10,000 a week to detention camp one woman & child? people spend YEARS in Sunlei Mar 2017 #7
$1.9 billion funding immigration detention beds (Americans money into private FOR PROFIT hands) Sunlei Mar 2017 #9
And dumpty owns those shares in Corrections Corporation of America (CCA) iluvtennis Mar 2017 #31
Since they are wanting to split up mothers and children duncang Mar 2017 #27
And when we get another Katrina, elmac Mar 2017 #8
Let me get this right. Doreen Mar 2017 #10
GeeeWhizzz furtheradu Mar 2017 #11
We don't need no stinkin' airport security! left-of-center2012 Mar 2017 #13
When right-wingers say "borders" they really mean the one that lies between us and Latinos. Lanius Mar 2017 #14
Exactly, I'd love to know what provoked his unreasonable hatred of Mexicans Warpy Mar 2017 #16
good point-- it's either all an act or he's just been brainwashed by FoxNews Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #36
So he's going to defund two agencies that actually protect our borders Warpy Mar 2017 #15
I wouldn't say walls don't work, they have some purpose Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #37
And Mexico will pay for it IronLionZion Mar 2017 #46
Can you believe the massive stupidity? smirkymonkey Mar 2017 #61
Yeah, he's fixated on that stupid wall Warpy Mar 2017 #62
this would be stupid heaven05 Mar 2017 #17
That wall is a 35 foot tall, 1000 mile long turd C_U_L8R Mar 2017 #19
what are the odds that it will ever truly get built? Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #38
idiots! nt tomp Mar 2017 #20
These idiots don't realize that the Coast Guard turbinetree Mar 2017 #21
Let's pay for it KingBob Mar 2017 #22
That is beyond hilarious, that is mind boggling -- stand aside Dr Strangelove, you're outdone. ColemanMaskell Mar 2017 #23
Damn Solly Mack Mar 2017 #24
You just don't understand that illegal immigrants can't climb walls or operate a boat or fly tclambert Mar 2017 #25
May I suggest slashing presidential security to help pay for the wall Doodley Mar 2017 #26
Amen-- yes Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #39
That shit makes me break stuff mad Cosmocat Mar 2017 #41
I'm not religious but defacto7 Mar 2017 #29
FFS, dumpty is LOONEY TUNES, CRAY CRAY, MAD - all for some damn wall that is unneeded. iluvtennis Mar 2017 #30
do we feel safer now? pansypoo53219 Mar 2017 #32
Ozymandias, King of Kings Tanuki Mar 2017 #34
perfect! Thanks Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #40
Excellent!! One of my father's favorite poems! FailureToCommunicate Mar 2017 #42
From all of us, a HUUUGE thank you Trump! FailureToCommunicate Mar 2017 #43
The Coast Guard actually saves American lives. The most popular branch of armed forces. mainer Mar 2017 #44
I wonder what those tRump votin' Coasties mitch96 Mar 2017 #47
seriously-- I know Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #51
Who's going to coordinate all the Gulf Coast's oil spill cleanups? Brother Buzz Mar 2017 #53
the EPA? Oh, wait, that's going too -- The oil companies? haha. Local govt. Volunteers. Nobody. ColemanMaskell Mar 2017 #54
What happened to making Mexico pay for it? Blue_Tires Mar 2017 #56
That was one of those things we weren't supposed to take him literally on. Zing Zing Zingbah Mar 2017 #63
He recently said Americans were going to front the money for the wall Zing Zing Zingbah Mar 2017 #66
What a great way to make it easier for drug and weapon smuggling! displacedtexan Mar 2017 #57
Bad hombres everywhere will love this plan. n/t Zing Zing Zingbah Mar 2017 #64
That would be counterproductive, to say the least. nt raccoon Mar 2017 #58
When they say wall, are they really talking about a giant structure that extends over 2,000 miles? xor Mar 2017 #59
In Trump's fevered mind, yes. Otherwise, not so much. Plus there's already a border fence/wall Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #60
He should put up 2,000 miles of chicken wire and call it good. Zing Zing Zingbah Mar 2017 #65

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
1. If Trump Did Not Skip Security Briefings...
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 10:45 PM
Mar 2017

...perhaps he would know that cutting the Coast Guard and airport security will make us less safe.

IronLionZion

(45,429 posts)
45. They'll increase the groping and privacy invasion
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 11:05 AM
Mar 2017

but reduce the parts that may actually screen for weapons or do anything remotely useful for security

caroldansen

(725 posts)
2. Great. Then when they drill holes in it, and they will sooner or later, then all those organizations
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 10:45 PM
Mar 2017

Can be mad at him as well as many others.

BumRushDaShow

(128,866 posts)
55. And with them also gutting FEMA
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 02:31 PM
Mar 2017

they can't put them into FEMACamps™ but will instead funnel billions into private prisons just for them.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
4. Trumplethinskin doesn't have accomplices that can profit from the Coast Guard or Airport Security
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 10:47 PM
Mar 2017

He does have construction mobsters that are drooling over the prospects of fraud on a fence that very few people will ever see.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
6. Reducing airport and coastal security for the illusory protection of a wall.
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 10:49 PM
Mar 2017

How the hell does that make the least bit of sense? I would hope that Congress won't support it.

jmowreader

(50,555 posts)
18. Actually, it makes perfect sense
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 11:22 PM
Mar 2017

If Trump wants to be a war president he needs a casus belli.

If he cuts airport security WAY back, and does the same for border security, we'll eventually get attacked. When we're attacked, he has everything he needs to eliminate all social programs so he can dump the money into the military, divert Social Security and Medicare taxes to the military, reinstate the draft (for the sons and daughters of Democrats, of course) and nuke someone.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
7. Republicans prison charges $10,000 a week to detention camp one woman & child? people spend YEARS in
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 10:55 PM
Mar 2017

those prisons.

duncang

(1,907 posts)
27. Since they are wanting to split up mothers and children
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 01:21 AM
Mar 2017

Think how much they could charge per week for day care nannies. Maybe they could hire a outfit like blackwater to be guard/nannies to keep those babies and children in line. I'm sure the repubs can figure out some way to cut in their buddies for a larger share.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
8. And when we get another Katrina,
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 10:56 PM
Mar 2017

and we will, will the coast guard be ready to rescue hundreds that no one else can reach? Well, fascist don't care, they have their gated communities and blackwater to protect them.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
10. Let me get this right.
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 11:02 PM
Mar 2017

He wants to keep our borders secure....well doesn't that include our shorelines?
Now lessen airport security but that is where a lot of our attacks have happened...right?
Does this mofo ever think or connect the damn dots?

furtheradu

(1,865 posts)
11. GeeeWhizzz
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 11:03 PM
Mar 2017

& the 'wall' is going to 'protect us', while starving the proven programs that have~mostly!~ protected the US a century or more? Mmmm, don't think so. Best be calling my "representatives&quot again). *siiiigh!* bless their hearts, they NEED our guidance on this govment thing.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
16. Exactly, I'd love to know what provoked his unreasonable hatred of Mexicans
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 11:09 PM
Mar 2017

Did some buff Mexican pool boy walk of with some startlet he was trying to hustle?

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
36. good point-- it's either all an act or he's just been brainwashed by FoxNews
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 08:32 AM
Mar 2017

like so many other wingnuts

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
15. So he's going to defund two agencies that actually protect our borders
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 11:08 PM
Mar 2017

in order to fund a stupid fucking boondoggle that has never worked no matter how many times it's been done in human history?

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
37. I wouldn't say walls don't work, they have some purpose
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 08:33 AM
Mar 2017

but this southern border wall is particularly stupid and pointless and wasteful.

IronLionZion

(45,429 posts)
46. And Mexico will pay for it
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 11:10 AM
Mar 2017

believe him

A lot of drugs are smuggled in by sea. Coast Guard interdicts drug and human traffickers all the time.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
61. Can you believe the massive stupidity?
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 09:02 PM
Mar 2017

I am just dumbfounded. I really can't believe this is what our government has come to. He really wants an attack on our shores.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
62. Yeah, he's fixated on that stupid wall
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 09:09 PM
Mar 2017

He's never seen the border and he has no clue in the world what it looks like.

I live in a border state and no thanks. I'd rather have a few undocumented Mexicans than that unsightly barrier to wildlife migration.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
17. this would be stupid
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 11:15 PM
Mar 2017

and dangerous. While I don't think an open, overt military action against us will take place because no enemy would underestimate these 3 clowns all vying to have their hand on the wheel of our ship of state and know that they WILL loose the nukes with minimum provocation. But coastlines and airports are vulnerable points for the lone 'gunman' so to speak. These people are stupidly putting innocents in danger to pay for their Maginot Line. IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All who voted for this terrible triumvirate should and will be shamed by these clowns and probably hurt by them also.

C_U_L8R

(44,998 posts)
19. That wall is a 35 foot tall, 1000 mile long turd
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 11:25 PM
Mar 2017

And the only thing it will ever be good for
is reminding the world what dumbshits
Donald Trump and his republican lapdogs are.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
38. what are the odds that it will ever truly get built?
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 08:34 AM
Mar 2017

I can't see that boondoggle ever getting very far

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
21. These idiots don't realize that the Coast Guard
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 12:13 AM
Mar 2017

is this:

https://www.uscg.mil/history/web/USCGbriefhistory.asp

it would take an ACT of CONgress (republicans, the same "guy's and girl's) that have hemming and hawing about security, if they were to do this, they would have to go through CONgress


KingBob

(150 posts)
22. Let's pay for it
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 12:18 AM
Mar 2017

Let's pay for this with tax cuts. Or more realistically, tax increases on the wealthy. Nah! Not racist enough.

tclambert

(11,085 posts)
25. You just don't understand that illegal immigrants can't climb walls or operate a boat or fly
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 01:04 AM
Mar 2017

on airplanes.

Cosmocat

(14,563 posts)
41. That shit makes me break stuff mad
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 08:58 AM
Mar 2017

I seriously want to smash things over the heads of "conservatives' who have spent the entirety of my life dismissively babbling about tax and spend democrats who can't be trusted with tax payer dollars who glibly excuse Mar A Lago and TT ...

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
29. I'm not religious but
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 01:40 AM
Mar 2017

somehow this reminds me of an old testament bible story of king Nimrod trying to build the tower of Bable to reach heaven using the labor and wealth of his kingdom. Building a nonsense tower to reach an unreachable heaven, God changed the languages of all the wokers and people of the kingdom so they couldn't understand each other and the entire kingdom was split and scattered across the earth.
The first part of the story sounds familiar. I hope the last part isn't prophesy.

A little bedtime story. Nighty night.

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
34. Ozymandias, King of Kings
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 08:28 AM
Mar 2017
https://m.poets.org/poetsorg/poem/ozymandias

Percy Bysshe Shelley

I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: "Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert . . . Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed:
And on the pedestal these words appear:
'My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!'
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away."

FailureToCommunicate

(14,013 posts)
43. From all of us, a HUUUGE thank you Trump!
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 10:14 AM
Mar 2017

(We don't need no stinking airport security!) Build a wall instead, PLEASE!

Signed,

mainer

(12,022 posts)
44. The Coast Guard actually saves American lives. The most popular branch of armed forces.
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 10:24 AM
Mar 2017

I know a lot of boaters and sailors who will be outraged.

mitch96

(13,892 posts)
47. I wonder what those tRump votin' Coasties
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 12:55 PM
Mar 2017

think of their commander in chief now???
We have lots of Coast Guard people in my neighborhood... Most had tRump signs on the lawn...
Gotta ask around...
m

Brother Buzz

(36,416 posts)
53. Who's going to coordinate all the Gulf Coast's oil spill cleanups?
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 01:34 PM
Mar 2017

Especially after opening up 73 million offshore acres to oil exploration. You just know they will be knee deep in....

ColemanMaskell

(783 posts)
54. the EPA? Oh, wait, that's going too -- The oil companies? haha. Local govt. Volunteers. Nobody.
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 01:48 PM
Mar 2017

Don't worry, the new EPA chief is going to defend us from the environment
Really, I heard it on SNL.

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
63. That was one of those things we weren't supposed to take him literally on.
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 11:32 PM
Mar 2017

He meant Mexico as a metaphor for American tax payers.

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
66. He recently said Americans were going to front the money for the wall
Thu Mar 9, 2017, 12:29 AM
Mar 2017

and then Mexico was going to pay us back afterward, because it would be quicker that way.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38524644

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
57. What a great way to make it easier for drug and weapon smuggling!
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 04:45 PM
Mar 2017

Cut back on coastal protection and airport security? Sure. Makes perfect sense if you're in hock to international bad guys.

What could possibly go wrong?

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
60. In Trump's fevered mind, yes. Otherwise, not so much. Plus there's already a border fence/wall
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 08:53 PM
Mar 2017

for most of the key spots.

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
65. He should put up 2,000 miles of chicken wire and call it good.
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 11:37 PM
Mar 2017

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Then he can say he fulfilled his promise of building the Mexican border wall and also get it done fast and cheap.

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