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Fri Feb 24, 2017, 10:07 AM

Chicago PD hits back at Trump: We asked WH for help and never heard back

Source: The Hill

Chicago Superintendent of Police Eddie Johnson on Thursday fired back after President Trump said the city needed help dealing with its violence problem, saying the department asked the White House for help but still hasn't heard back.

"We have challenges with gun violence in several neighborhoods on the South and West sides of the city. It's unacceptable to me, to the Mayor and to Everyone who lives in Chicago," Johnson said in a statement.

"We've made requests to the White House and the Justice Department for them to support our work — from increasing federal gun prosecution to more FBI, DEA and ATF agents to more funding for mentoring, job training and more. We are still waiting for the administration's response to our request."

Trump, also on Thursday, tweeted that “Chicago needs help” after seven people were fatally shot in the city.

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Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/320951-chicago-pd-hits-back-after-trump-tweet-we-asked-wh-for-help-and-never-heard

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Reply Chicago PD hits back at Trump: We asked WH for help and never heard back (Original post)
highplainsdem Feb 2017 OP
yallerdawg Feb 2017 #1
Synecdoche Trope Feb 2017 #2
nycbos Feb 2017 #3
HoneyBadger Feb 2017 #7
nycbos Feb 2017 #8
Lilyhoney Feb 2017 #9
nycbos Feb 2017 #12
Grins Feb 2017 #10
nycbos Feb 2017 #11
Eyeball_Kid Feb 2017 #4
qanda Feb 2017 #5
Grins Feb 2017 #6
Sunlei Feb 2017 #13
lark Feb 2017 #14
sarcasmo Feb 2017 #15
EarthFirst Feb 2017 #16

Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Fri Feb 24, 2017, 10:18 AM

1. This is on your watch now, asshole!

"All hat, no cattle."

Sign another memo, idiot.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Fri Feb 24, 2017, 10:19 AM

2. That's a shock!

 

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Fri Feb 24, 2017, 10:30 AM

3. One of the things I have been trying to understand for awhile is...

... in terms of gun violence why is Chicago right now is having way more problems than New York (my home town). I know gangs are responsible for much of Chicago current problems. But gangs exist in New York and New York has fewer murders than Chicago despite having three times the population.

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Response to nycbos (Reply #3)

Fri Feb 24, 2017, 10:43 AM

7. The RICO act was used against many gangs in NYC

 

It is the future for Chicago, and it is federal.

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Response to HoneyBadger (Reply #7)

Fri Feb 24, 2017, 10:45 AM

8. Ah thank you.

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Response to nycbos (Reply #3)

Fri Feb 24, 2017, 10:55 AM

9. From the Tribune from July 2016. Worth the read.

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Street gangs, once compared with Fortune 500 companies for their organizational skills and ruthless pursuit of profits, are now mostly made up of small, leaderless sets of members bound together by personal relationships rather than geographic or narcotics-trade ties. Personal insults and petty conflicts, often inflamed by social media posts, are just as likely to lead to a shooting as is competition for drug turf. Taken together, these changes have created an anything-goes atmosphere on the streets.

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It is no secret that the nature of Chicago's street gangs has changed, resulting in less centralized and less hierarchical organizations. Chicago's top police officials have spoken frequently about how the splintering of the city's gangs has fueled the city's nonstop violence. Stature of the kind that Webster once enjoyed now means nothing, and gang members on the street have no bosses giving orders. The violent results have become increasingly unpredictable.

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Two federal law enforcement officers who regularly work with Chicago police on gang violence said that, among the black gangs, the old hierarchical rules of engagement "are nonexistent." One of the officers said he traces the change, in part, to the dismantling of public housing high-rises in Chicago.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-violence-gangs-20160728-story.html

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Response to Lilyhoney (Reply #9)

Fri Feb 24, 2017, 11:28 AM

12. Thank you

This was informative. It is going to take many people that are way smarter than I am to find a solution.

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Response to nycbos (Reply #3)

Fri Feb 24, 2017, 10:59 AM

10. And why pick on Chicago when....

"New Orleans, St. Louis, Detroit, Baltimore and Newark all have higher figures when you drill down to a per-capita rate." - CNN

So why is Chicago being singled out...?

Oh! Never mind.

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Response to Grins (Reply #10)

Fri Feb 24, 2017, 11:10 AM

11. I am not picking on Chicago

I was just wondering what are that factors that allowed a place like New York to significantly lower their crime rate. I am fully aware that other cites have a higher murder rate. Someone respond to my post with a news article from the Chicago tribune I am going to read it now.


I am just trying to understand the issue.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Fri Feb 24, 2017, 10:33 AM

4. Remember that Trumpy obsesses with seeking revenge against perceived enemies?

1. He uses Chicago as a scapegoat but doesn't provide assistance. Chicago/Illinois are majority Democratic.

2. He threatens to start DEA raids in recreational cannabis states, which are majority Democratic.


This is how Trumpy operates.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Fri Feb 24, 2017, 10:37 AM

5. Trump mentions issues and doesn't have the staff or resources to tackle them

But, it doesn't matter to his supporters. To them, as long as he mentions something, it means he's worked on it.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Fri Feb 24, 2017, 10:39 AM

6. Get in line Chicago....

Chicago police, "...asked the White House for help but still hasn't heard back."

Get in line Chicago; right behind the Black Caucus.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Fri Feb 24, 2017, 11:41 AM

13. IMO the 3? cities, & 'high violence' areas persist because people are AFRAID to call police for help

Now with the local police given authority and EO, an ORDER to check immigration status "papers please" on everyone, people will call police for help even less.

yeah Republicans where are the JOBS? those neighborhoods have LOCAL ordinances and LOCAL zoning 'laws' where residents are forbidden even a home based family business. Get rid of those stupid local laws and more people can create their own 'job', their own small business.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Fri Feb 24, 2017, 02:03 PM

14. Yeah, I bet I know the kind of help he wants to give.

The small cylindrical kind that come out of a gun. These aren't his kind of people and are probably brown, which is a sin as long as the person isn't rich.

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Fri Feb 24, 2017, 04:03 PM

15. 45 will send the Guard in this summer.

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Response to sarcasmo (Reply #15)

Fri Feb 24, 2017, 04:13 PM

16. That's my concern! nt

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