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alp227

(32,013 posts)
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 10:59 PM Jul 2012

Governor signs law to make California home to nation's first truly high-speed rail

Source: CNN

California is poised to become home to the nation's first truly high-speed rail system with Gov. Jerry Brown's signing Wednesday of a law authorizing the first leg of construction for a line that will eventually connect Los Angeles and San Francisco.

California will issue $2.6 billion in bonds, with the federal government providing an additional $3.2 billion, to build the initial segment of the high-speed rail between Merced and the San Fernando Valley on the north side of Los Angeles, officials said.

The high-speed rail project was part of a transportation bill signed by Brown that calls for general improvements to the state's rail system involving a total of $4.7 billion in state funding matched with $7.9 billion in federal and local funds, officials said.

"This legislation will help put thousands of people in California back to work," Brown said at Union Station in downtown Los Angeles, according to a news release. "By improving regional transportation systems, we are investing in the future of our state and making California a better place to live and work."

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/18/us/california-high-speed-rail/index.html



However, even a few (D) state senators voted against HSR, and my local paper (whose editorial board is far from right wing) called the HSR project a "high-spending folly".
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Governor signs law to make California home to nation's first truly high-speed rail (Original Post) alp227 Jul 2012 OP
It is sad we have to call this excellent! liberal N proud Jul 2012 #1
That would be wonderful Mz Pip Jul 2012 #5
YIPPEE... ALL ABOARD!!! AsahinaKimi Jul 2012 #2
just remember to think Rick Scott DonCoquixote Jul 2012 #3
Derpy-derp Rick happerbolic Jul 2012 #19
Very happy for you California.... We in Wisconsin were so close to having it too.... midnight Jul 2012 #4
But now he wants to make changes to Amtrak...as rumor has it the Kochs will buy it. AllyCat Jul 2012 #18
just the control Freaks at the top of your state... happerbolic Jul 2012 #20
K&R SunSeeker Jul 2012 #6
I doubt it will be up and running before I die. I'm 55. kestrel91316 Jul 2012 #7
yes shanti Jul 2012 #12
Would love to see it in Colorado mountain grammy Jul 2012 #8
K&R Great news. Can't wait to take the train from Union Station to San Francisco. JDPriestly Jul 2012 #9
Unfortunately, most of that CNN story is smoke and mirrors JayhawkSD Jul 2012 #10
I will bet your glass is always half empty ..... MindMover Jul 2012 #11
An optimist... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2012 #15
OK.... shanti Jul 2012 #13
I want Amtrak to Vegas damnit!!! Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #14
Waste of money, Vegas will be a ghost town in 100 years. Odin2005 Jul 2012 #21
You wouldn't say that if you ever went there. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #22
Great news for CA Iwillnevergiveup Jul 2012 #16
I'm glad to see him do this. AllyCat Jul 2012 #17

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
1. It is sad we have to call this excellent!
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 11:13 PM
Jul 2012

Which it truly is and I am elated they are lead the way. But we should have coast to coast HSR by now.

Mz Pip

(27,434 posts)
5. That would be wonderful
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 11:26 PM
Jul 2012

I just spent 55 hours on the train from CA to Chicago. It was an interesting experience but I will never do it again. There were places we went through that had 10 mile per hour speed limits. I suppose I should have been glad we weren't more than 5 hours late.

AllyCat

(16,173 posts)
18. But now he wants to make changes to Amtrak...as rumor has it the Kochs will buy it.
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 10:56 AM
Jul 2012

I'm glad to see Illinois to the south of us making improvments. Wish we had HSR here with all those jobs and the international draw of reasonable, modern transportation.

 

happerbolic

(140 posts)
20. just the control Freaks at the top of your state...
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 01:53 PM
Jul 2012

...had other plans for your future transportation

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shanti

(21,675 posts)
12. yes
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 01:09 AM
Jul 2012

i'm 56 and despair at ever seeing this happen in my lifetime. i'm in sac, but would definitely use it! having to transfer to a bus just sucks!

mountain grammy

(26,605 posts)
8. Would love to see it in Colorado
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 12:19 AM
Jul 2012

Denver has completed many miles of light rail and is working on more. The number of people using the rail is far greater than was anticipated. we Coloradans love our vehicles, but the speed and convenience are hard to beat. Why are Americans so resistant to public transportation, but love it and use it when it's available?

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
10. Unfortunately, most of that CNN story is smoke and mirrors
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 12:40 AM
Jul 2012

For one thing the funding after this initial phase is an illusion, because it posits federal funding which is unlikely to be forthcoming, private funding which is utterly laughable, and local funding from localities which presently cannot even pay their fire and police forces. The speeds which it talks about are a complete pipe dream because much of the proposed line is based on existing rights of way which will not sustain anywhere close to those speeds. The segment presently being built is in the Eastern Central Valley and is about the least populated portion of the state, and ends 40 miles south of Merced, not at Merced as the article suggests. Not that Merced is exactly such a hotbed of economic activity.

As an example of what a farce the "high speed rail" bill that Brownie just signed really is, $100 million of the money is being spent in San Diego to perform what is essentially deferred maintenance on the trolley system. I don't think anyone in their right mind would call a 15mph trolley "high speed rail."

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
15. An optimist...
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 02:19 AM
Jul 2012

thinks the glass half full, the pessimist half empty. The engineer sees the glass not being used to its full designed capacity.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
14. I want Amtrak to Vegas damnit!!!
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 01:35 AM
Jul 2012

I'm going there next month and would LOVE to take the scenic route through the Cajon Pass.

Of course it's even nicer when there's snow.



BTW: This video is kinda LOUD so mute it to really enjoy it.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
21. Waste of money, Vegas will be a ghost town in 100 years.
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 01:57 PM
Jul 2012

It's the mascot of being environmentally unsustainable.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
22. You wouldn't say that if you ever went there.
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 02:07 PM
Jul 2012

Get away from the casinos downtown and it's typical suburbs and strip malls.

There's plenty of water nearby too thanks to Hoover Dam which generates enough electricity that they sell the surplus to California.

It's also a proving ground for solar power.

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
16. Great news for CA
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 04:20 AM
Jul 2012

and hopefully for the rest of the nation sooner rather than later. Here's an informative website that shows the route and developments along individual sections.

I do believe we middle-agers will live to ride this train, yes I do.


http://www.cahighspeedrail.ca.gov/trip_planner.aspx

AllyCat

(16,173 posts)
17. I'm glad to see him do this.
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 10:54 AM
Jul 2012

He's been a disappointment on many things, but this will make a difference for California workers, the environment, and those horrible traffic jams.

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