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Sat Jan 28, 2017, 09:40 AM

Refugees Detained at U.S. Airports, Prompting Legal Challenges to Trumps Immigration Order

Source: New York Times

President Trumpís executive order closing the nationís borders to refugees was put into immediate effect Friday night. Refugees who were in the air on the way to the United States when the order was signed were stopped and detained at airports.

The detentions prompted legal challenges as lawyers representing two Iraqi refugees held at Kennedy Airport filed a writ of habeas corpus early Saturday in the Eastern District of New York seeking to have their clients released. At the same time, they filed a motion for class certification, in an effort to represent all refugees and immigrants who they said were being unlawfully detained at ports of entry.

Mr. Trumpís order, which suspends entry of all refugees to the United States for 120 days, created a legal limbo for individuals on the way to the United States and panic for families who were awaiting their arrival.

Mr. Trumpís order also stops the admission of refugees from Syria indefinitely, and it bars entry into the United States for 90 days from seven predominantly Muslim countries linked to concerns about terrorism. Those countries are Iraq, Syria, Iran, Sudan, Libya, Somalia and Yemen.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/28/us/refugees-detained-at-us-airports-prompting-legal-challenges-to-trumps-immigration-order.html?emc=edit_na_20170128&nl=breaking-news&nlid=50533710&ref=cta

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Reply Refugees Detained at U.S. Airports, Prompting Legal Challenges to Trumps Immigration Order (Original post)
HAB911 Jan 2017 OP
Ford_Prefect Jan 2017 #1
underpants Jan 2017 #5
lark Jan 2017 #6
KewlKat Jan 2017 #20
sinkingfeeling Jan 2017 #2
KewlKat Jan 2017 #21
mountain grammy Jan 2017 #3
appleannie1943 Jan 2017 #4
BumRushDaShow Jan 2017 #8
Wounded Bear Jan 2017 #15
BumRushDaShow Jan 2017 #19
riversedge Jan 2017 #7
Raine1967 Jan 2017 #9
LisaL Jan 2017 #10
Raine1967 Jan 2017 #11
EL34x4 Jan 2017 #28
appleannie1943 Jan 2017 #12
appleannie1943 Jan 2017 #13
EL34x4 Jan 2017 #14
llmart Jan 2017 #16
appleannie1943 Jan 2017 #18
llmart Jan 2017 #22
appleannie1943 Jan 2017 #25
pangaia Jan 2017 #17
Blue_Tires Jan 2017 #23
ismnotwasm Jan 2017 #24
LisaM Jan 2017 #26
OKIsItJustMe Jan 2017 #27

Response to HAB911 (Original post)

Sat Jan 28, 2017, 09:50 AM

1. they left out Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Qatar

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Response to Ford_Prefect (Reply #1)

Sat Jan 28, 2017, 10:06 AM

5. They left out all the countries where Trump has business interests

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Response to Ford_Prefect (Reply #1)

Sat Jan 28, 2017, 10:07 AM

6. Such a steaming pile of BS.

He exempted countries where he does business, welcome to trumpland and so very sad to see America being destroyed bit by bit on a daily basis. Hope the appeal wins!

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Response to Ford_Prefect (Reply #1)

Sat Jan 28, 2017, 02:35 PM

20. What no Afghanistan? Maybe they didn't know how to spell it?

Are there any drumpf businesses in Afghanistan? Oh right, who would know since he WON'T RELEASE HIS TAXES.

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Response to HAB911 (Original post)

Sat Jan 28, 2017, 09:53 AM

2. I don't believe I ever experienced pure hate until this week.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Reply #2)

Sat Jan 28, 2017, 02:36 PM

21. +1,000,000

Sadly I feel the same way. We have to channel the hate in a positive way to get the effer out!

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Response to HAB911 (Original post)

Sat Jan 28, 2017, 10:05 AM

3. Hate and fear wins the day..

Color me ashamed..

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Response to HAB911 (Original post)

Sat Jan 28, 2017, 10:05 AM

4. He just put our troops in Iraq into extreme danger. Not to mention Americans working all over the

world. I have a granddaughter working in Europe and that ass just put her in danger of retribution.

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Response to appleannie1943 (Reply #4)

Sat Jan 28, 2017, 10:33 AM

8. As a note - this new State Department needs to put out Warnings and Advisories

due to this. But I doubt the appointee-in-waiting or his master gives a shit (I expect the career folks are fuming).

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #8)

Sat Jan 28, 2017, 12:07 PM

15. He essentially just decaptitated the State Department...

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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #15)

Sat Jan 28, 2017, 02:32 PM

19. They have advisories/warnings up until 1/25

But theoretically, appointees are expected to submit resignations so what happened there (and pretty much everywhere else in the federal government) is par for the course.

The non-appointees usually have SOPs to follow to initiate stuff like this. Working for the government myself, I know that our agency has folks all around the world and they definitely need the heads-up.

But then again, we have experienced a coup d'etat so the response in the various agencies will probably be variable.

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Response to HAB911 (Original post)

Sat Jan 28, 2017, 10:32 AM

7. Disgusting...













Refugees Detained at U.S. Airports, Prompting Legal Challenges to Trumpís Immigration Order


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/26/opinion/president-trumps-war-on-women-begins.html

By NICHOLAS KULISH and MANNY FERNANDEZJAN. 28, 2017


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The wife of an Iraqi citizen who was detained at Kennedy Airport. She was at her sisterís home in Houston on Saturday. Credit Michael Stravato for The New York Times







President Trumpís executive order closing the nationís borders to refugees was put into immediate effect Friday night. Refugees who were in the air on the way to the United States when the order was signed were stopped and detained at airports.

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It was unclear how many refugees and immigrants were being held nationwide in the aftermath of the executive order. The complaints were filed by a prominent group including the American Civil Liberties Union, the International Refugee Assistance Project at the Urban Justice Center, the National Immigration Law Center, Yale Law Schoolís Jerome N. Frank Legal Services Organization and the firm Kilpatrick Townsend & Stockton.

The lawyers said that one of the Iraqis detained at Kennedy Airport, Hameed Khalid Darweesh, had worked on behalf of the U.S. government in Iraq for 10 years. The other, Haider Sameer Abdulkhaleq Alshawi, was coming to the United States to join his wife, who had worked for a U.S. contractor, and young son, the lawyers said. They said both men were detained at the airport Friday night after arriving on separate flights...............

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Response to HAB911 (Original post)

Sat Jan 28, 2017, 10:48 AM

9. This is a horrific nightmare and the NYT article is chilling.

My god -- in less than a week he took us to this very dark place.

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Response to Raine1967 (Reply #9)

Sat Jan 28, 2017, 10:52 AM

10. I sure thought it was going to take a bit longer to get us to this point.

So Trump exceeded my expectations.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #10)

Sat Jan 28, 2017, 11:25 AM

11. I find myself in Shock -- again.

This situation cannot sustain.

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Response to Raine1967 (Reply #9)

Sat Jan 28, 2017, 05:12 PM

28. Trump is doing exactly what he said he was going to do.

 

Foreign travelers and green card holders have had nearly three months to prepare for this.

Did people think he was kidding?

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Response to HAB911 (Original post)

Sat Jan 28, 2017, 11:49 AM

12. Donald Trump anti-refugee order: 'green-card holders included in ban' live Homeland Security

Donald Trump anti-refugee order: 'green-card holders included in ban' Ė live
Homeland Security reportedly confirms permanent residents will be included in temporary ban amid widespread condemnation
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2017/jan/28/world-digests-donald-trumps-order-to-ban-refugees-from-muslim-countries

So, if you are Muslim, work in this country and were traveling when he signed the damn order, you cannot return home.

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Response to appleannie1943 (Reply #12)

Sat Jan 28, 2017, 11:52 AM

13. Lawyers are telling Muslims not to leave the country. If they do, they can't return, even if they

live here.

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Response to appleannie1943 (Reply #13)

Sat Jan 28, 2017, 11:57 AM

14. Prudent advice.

 

The people running things these days, they're not playing games.

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Response to appleannie1943 (Reply #12)

Sat Jan 28, 2017, 12:33 PM

16. This makes me sick to my stomach...

Universities all over this country have permanent residents as faculty members.

This is not going to go well.

However, there are so many ignorant people in this country that they have no clue how these terrible policies affect our country.

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Response to llmart (Reply #16)

Sat Jan 28, 2017, 12:54 PM

18. I have a grand daughter that is teaching in Europe and one that is career military

and has been to both Iraq and Afghanistan numerous times. This ban scares me to the souls of my feet. He is putting so many lives and so many livlihoods in danger there is nothing cute or safe about it.

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Response to appleannie1943 (Reply #18)

Sat Jan 28, 2017, 02:45 PM

22. I know...

and this is why we've got to stop focusing on the stupid stuff he does to distract us such as his tweeting, etc. and comics making fun of him, and be diligent about fighting and resisting and NEVER LETTING UP until this national nightmare is over.

I know some of these faculty members personally and I'm worried that if they try to go home over a semester break to visit family, do research, etc. what happens then if they can't get back into the country? I highly doubt trump and his ignorant supporters even understand what this means and how it affects all walks of life. If you could see some of the resumes of our non-citizen faculty members and the research they have been involved in or the years of experience they have, you'd see how honored we should be to even have them in our country. But Americans are so arrogant in thinking that the US is superior in all things. Well, we're not.

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Response to appleannie1943 (Reply #18)

Sat Jan 28, 2017, 02:59 PM

25. When even Dick Cheney, king of waterboarding, is against this, you know it is bad enough

to destroy the country.

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Response to HAB911 (Original post)

Sat Jan 28, 2017, 12:49 PM

17. Also, 6 refugees were stopped from boarding a flight from Cairo to JFK.

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Response to HAB911 (Original post)

Sat Jan 28, 2017, 02:49 PM

23. Yeah, but Clinton and Trump are 100% the same, amirite??

I want just one fucking duer who said that in the past year to apologize... You own this shit

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #23)

Sat Jan 28, 2017, 02:56 PM

24. Plus infinity

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Response to HAB911 (Original post)

Sat Jan 28, 2017, 03:02 PM

26. What a heartless SOB

How can anyone create so much havoc in a week?

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Response to HAB911 (Original post)

Sat Jan 28, 2017, 04:01 PM

27. Experts Warn President Trumps Refugee Ban Could Backfire: ISIS 'Rubbing Their Hands With Glee'

http://time.com/4651729/president-trump-refugee-suspension-backfire/
[font face=Serif][font size=5]Experts Warn President Trumpís Refugee Ban Could Backfire: ISIS 'Rubbing Their Hands With Glee'[/font]

[font size=3]President Donald Trump signed an executive order on Friday that temporarily bans new U.S. visas for citizens of seven Muslim-majority countries, in an act the administration says is designed to prevent ďterrorist attacks by foreign nationals.Ē

Yet counterterrorism experts say that the policy could backfire by providing more fodder for propaganda and recruiting by jihadist groups that aim to demonize the United States.

In interviews, analysts and former counterterrorism officials said the proposed immigration restrictions would reinforce the jihadistsí binary worldview in which a monolithic West conspires to oppress Muslims across the planet. According to the executive order, the new presidentís policy will suspend new visas for people from seven nations: Iran, Iraq, Syria, Sudan, Libya, Somalia and Yemen. The executive order targets citizens of those countries almost indiscriminately, a policy that experts say fuels a narrative of American victimization of Muslims, in which jihadist groups market themselves as the resistance to that domination.

ďThere is no doubt in my mind that, wherever they are, propagandists for groups of the likes of the Islamic State will be looking at whatís happening and rubbing their hands with glee. Because this is exactly the kind of world they want to inhabit. Itís a world that reifies their ideology,Ē says Charlie Winter, a senior research fellow at the International Centre for the Study of Radicalisation and Political Violence in London.

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