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Three former White House press secretaries issue warnings for press relations under Trump

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Source: Politico

Trump and the press are going to be at odds this year. Spicer is saying he might not even have to do press conferences.

Now three former white house press secretaries issue warnings about the potential interaction between the press and the Trump admin.

This may not end well but its certainly going to be an interesting ride.

excerpt from former Bush communications director Nicolle Wallace.

"I think we're staring at trees and missing the forest, Wallace said. "We've just elected a man who bullies female reporters at his rally as an applause line. We have just elected a man who started a hot war with a female anchor instead of attending a debate she moderated. We are in a new place. And I don't think it's good. And I don't think it has any parallels to the past."



Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2017/01/three-former-white-house-press-secretaries-issue-warnings-for-press-relations-under-trump-233084

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Reply Three former White House press secretaries issue warnings for press relations under Trump (Original post)
lancelyons Jan 2017 OP
JI7 Jan 2017 #1
riversedge Jan 2017 #2
Volaris Jan 2017 #4
3catwoman3 Jan 2017 #9
msongs Jan 2017 #3
bdamomma Jan 2017 #6
calimary Jan 2017 #12
brer cat Jan 2017 #15
muriel_volestrangler Jan 2017 #21
Plucketeer Jan 2017 #5
Ligyron Jan 2017 #7
Ilsa Jan 2017 #14
Ligyron Jan 2017 #22
LiberalLovinLug Jan 2017 #23
Ilsa Jan 2017 #25
C_U_L8R Jan 2017 #8
Jacob Boehme Jan 2017 #10
Fichefinder Jan 2017 #11
Doreen Jan 2017 #13
tavernier Jan 2017 #16
TeamPooka Jan 2017 #17
flamingdem Jan 2017 #18
ffr Jan 2017 #19
Beartracks Jan 2017 #20
Eleanors38 Jan 2017 #24
Eliot Rosewater Jan 2017 #26
underpants Jan 2017 #27

Response to lancelyons (Original post)

Sun Jan 1, 2017, 08:54 PM

1. this isn't even about usual political differences. just human decency

I would never support a dem liberal who had the same position as me on every issue but behaved as trump does.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #1)

Sun Jan 1, 2017, 08:59 PM

2. I do not think I would either. His behavior is bullish-and the press does not seem to know

how to handle him--besides praise if he answers a few questions.

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Response to riversedge (Reply #2)

Sun Jan 1, 2017, 09:32 PM

4. That's because they're cowed dogs.

I think they should ALL skip his first White House Press Breifing. Fuck him if he thinks he gets to dictate to US how this going to work. Send his ass an unmistakeable message. Then,

Get Barrack Obama to host next year's WH correspondents dinner. Just Because.

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Response to Volaris (Reply #4)

Sun Jan 1, 2017, 10:16 PM

9. "Get Barack Obama to host next year's WH correspondents dinner. Just Because."

Oh, yes. Please, please, please, please, PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That would be soooooooooooooooo delicious.

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Response to lancelyons (Original post)

Sun Jan 1, 2017, 09:30 PM

3. step one quit treating his twits as breaking news instead of thoughtless vomit nt

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Response to msongs (Reply #3)

Sun Jan 1, 2017, 09:49 PM

6. tRump doesn't know anything about communication

if he throws out a tweet the corporate media treats it like news, disgusting, I don't he will have a state of the union, those days are over, this is just all about him and who he can scam, he accomplished his first the American people. And it's who likes him. He is not well mentally, and we should scream this out. Or the Psychiatrists who commented on him already need to scream it out.

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Response to msongs (Reply #3)

Sun Jan 1, 2017, 10:39 PM

12. Step 2 would be - quit chasing access!

It WILL lead you astray, and you WILL get rolled. Again. Bank on it.

Take two JAY ROSEN columns and you might feel better in the morning. Better still if the dumb-ass gullible press, with its presidential kneepads at the ready, reads it too. And then takes note.

http://pressthink.org/2016/12/winter-coming-prospects-american-press-trump/ (There are two parts.)

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Response to calimary (Reply #12)

Mon Jan 2, 2017, 12:08 AM

15. Great read, calimary.

Thanks for posting it.

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Response to calimary (Reply #12)

Mon Jan 2, 2017, 08:45 AM

21. I want to thank you too for posting that

I thought it good enough to have its own thread, since I couldn't see that someone else had posted it:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028423351

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Response to lancelyons (Original post)

Sun Jan 1, 2017, 09:39 PM

5. He promised to shake things up in DC - just as Bernie did

 

The difference is, Bernie had class and conscience and knew how to work the press and his colleagues. Trump has neither of those qualities, nor can he remember what he's said from one hour to the next. His tweeting allows him to control the narrative - as opposed to having to field questions from the press corps. As much as I worry about what the GOP is going to do to us, what is really scary is what this maniac is gonna subject us to. I'd personally rather die from anything but a nuclear Armageddon, but we have CIC that figures if we have nukes, we should USE nukes.

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Response to lancelyons (Original post)

Sun Jan 1, 2017, 09:53 PM

7. A good percentage of the American public doesn't trust the press because

the press, for the most part, reported facts that the public doesn't want to believe. Just doesn't fit in with their fantasy of what the country should be about.

People like Rove and Ailes saw this and created their own fake news site - Faux, err,, Fox News.

They paint a picture that those who can't handle the actual truth can believe in, an alternate reality where they are a persecuted, victimized group of patriots who will have their day again and that day is almost upon us.

Going to be interesting.

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Response to Ligyron (Reply #7)

Sun Jan 1, 2017, 11:02 PM

14. And the rest of us don't trust the msm

because they work for the corporations telling them what propaganda to run. We watch them sell out for access to garbage.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #14)

Mon Jan 2, 2017, 09:13 AM

22. Well, a good part of the msm, yes.

Harper's, Wapo, and the NYT seem to be reporting and resisting, fi.

...but the big three are sell outs fer sure.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #14)

Mon Jan 2, 2017, 04:07 PM

23. That is true and it helps the other side create their "lamestrean media" meme

Its infuriating. Most of us deplored the MSM during the Bush years how they refused to cover any other angle than pro-war, and had ex-Generals that were heavily invested in the weapons industry on as their expert guests, and rarely, if ever had on any anti-war guest.

That carried on as they did a horrible job when the heath insurance debates were on. We had to pay to watch a Michael Moore movie to find out about other options and exactly how the public option worked in other countries.

There are many other examples. Including allowing right wing "guests" to loudly shout and talk over other guests and hosts, and having on twice as many Republicans than Democrats.

But then you add the distrust of the deplorables who are brainwashed by the 24/7 hate radio stations about the "librul media" to the point that any criticism of Republicans, or report on economic success by a Democrat, is all lies if it comes from these major networks.

They have shat in both beds. And there is a crossover with independents who share both reasons, including the coverup of many facts surrounding 9/11, but that's another thread.

I think Trump may not ever give a traditional press conference. For one he is self-aware enough to know that he does not want to be embarrased by a question on a topic that he knows very little about (which is substantial). But also because like was said, he can control the narrative if he will only speak on Fox News, Twitter, Breitbart, and the Free Republic. And he can call the traditional papers "fake news" and his base will say they don't need to read those traditional news sources anymore.

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Response to LiberalLovinLug (Reply #23)

Mon Jan 2, 2017, 08:15 PM

25. Yeah, it's disgusting. By trying to

Keep the truth, by rejecting "msm", everything, including the rancid truth, becomes "fake" and unbelievable. We shoot ourselves in the feet, pretty much either way. Phase 1 or 2 or whatever, of putin's plan is complete.

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Response to lancelyons (Original post)

Sun Jan 1, 2017, 09:58 PM

8. We're going to find out what the press is made of

And who actually deserves to be called a journalist.

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Response to lancelyons (Original post)

Sun Jan 1, 2017, 10:23 PM

10. Let this clown show his true, malicious colors!

The sooner, the better. Sometimes the only way to fix something is to let it break completely.

So let this boorish buffoon self-immolate in the most spectacular way possible.

That way it will be undeniable to everyone except his tribe of dead-enders that he's the worst possible person to have as our chief executive and kick his ass out of the oval office; hopefully by way of being frog-marched in handcuffs.

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Response to lancelyons (Original post)

Sun Jan 1, 2017, 10:24 PM

11. Not precisely on topic but I love how our crack press corps

missed a small wagon train of black SUV's, at least one helicopter and who knows how many assorted suckups heading to the golf course on the only road (A1A) out of town. Then they acted shocked how he slipped past them. (How'd he do dat?) They don't miss a trick. I'm glad they are on the job.

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Response to lancelyons (Original post)

Sun Jan 1, 2017, 11:01 PM

13. I can not believe that

I am the only one who sees this as the most non transparent administration our country has ever had. I am not worried about the fact that trump escaped to go golfing without anybody knowing but the new laws that are hurtful to humans that we will wake up to in the morning not knowing they were even being considered in the first place. How long are we going to be allowed to be on this site with dictator Trump? Am I being overly paranoid?

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Response to Doreen (Reply #13)

Mon Jan 2, 2017, 12:19 AM

16. No.

I'm not saying there aren't any decent journalists or news reporters left in our country anymore... We just don't happen to have news agencies who want the truth exposed. It's not about who brings the truth, but rather who beings the profit.

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Response to lancelyons (Original post)

Mon Jan 2, 2017, 12:24 AM

17. Trump is a scumbag of very limited intelligence. He can't handle and answer question like a real

leader in our country needs to do.
he doesn't have the skills or ability to do it.

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Response to lancelyons (Original post)

Mon Jan 2, 2017, 01:40 AM

18. Interview with kicked out author Harry Hurt III

http://sagharboronline.com/conversation-harry-hurt-iii/

He had some tough words for you personally: How did you react when he branded you “vindictive,” a “failed writer,” a “dummy dope,” an “unattractive guy” and a “guy without much talent”?

I laughed my dummy dope head off. As the old saying goes, consider the source: a tangerine-topped Teflon man without a plan whose first ex-wife swore he [allegedly] raped her while he was bankrupting his casinos and real estate holdings. What he said about me are the typical slurs of a schoolyard bully. The New York Times ran a lengthy list several months ago citing the people Donald has offended and what he said about them. I was proud to be on the list. Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me. Nah, nah, nah!

In business, is he a phenomenal, unbridled success or is he a huckster and flimflam artist? Or is it more nuanced?

Donald Trump is the greatest self-promoter in the history of American capitalism. He’s had some business successes and just as many if not more failures. His highest and best use is as a reality TV show host, which is probably the greatest source of his cash flow in recent years. Many of the properties that currently bear his name are deals done in partnership with outside investors to whom I would say, caveat emptor.

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Response to lancelyons (Original post)

Mon Jan 2, 2017, 01:50 AM

19. Stay the course Amerika.

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Response to lancelyons (Original post)

Mon Jan 2, 2017, 08:08 AM

20. It's not a "new place"...

... it's a stupid place. It's a dangerous place. It's a place where cowards hide.

"New" just makes it sound normal -- "Oh, my, isn't this interesting?" -- instead of the quite un-American situation it is.

And anyhow, it's not really even "new," since many autocrats and dictators have sought to hide everything they do and get rid of a free press... Gee, Russia comes to mind. What a coincidence...

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Response to lancelyons (Original post)

Mon Jan 2, 2017, 06:09 PM

24. Press relations? What press relations? He's got Twitter. NT

 

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Response to lancelyons (Original post)

Mon Jan 2, 2017, 08:36 PM

26. Americans had their chance, even though a foreign enemy assisted trump, we could have

prevented this.

We didnt, we were worried about private servers and her smiling with Kissinger.

Many decided to gamble life as we know it for those reasons, you gambled, you lost. We all did.

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Response to lancelyons (Original post)

Mon Jan 2, 2017, 08:55 PM

27. Ari, as usual, is wrong. The media doesn't hate Trump. He's their product. N/t

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