EXCLUSIVE: NRA Threatens Senators Who Support Campaign Finance Disclosure
Source: Think Progress
EXCLUSIVE: NRA Threatens Senators Who Support Campaign Finance Disclosure
By Josh Israel on Jul 13, 2012 at 11:19 am
NRA Lobbyist Chris W. Cox
In a letter opposing the DISCLOSE Act of 2012 a bill to allow citizens to know what corporations and wealthy donors are paying for the independent expenditure attack ads enabled by the 5-4 Citizens United ruling the National Rifle Association (NRA) is warning Senators it will score the issue in its legislative scorecard for this Congress.
The NRA opposes the measure arguing that its provisions require organizations to turn membership and donor lists over to the government and would unconstitutionally abridge the right of citizens to speak and associate privately and anonymously. The legislation would merely require groups that opt to run outside political ads to tell voters which donors funded those efforts. By setting up a separate bank account for independent political spending, a group like the NRA would be able to keep its membership list private and would need only disclose the large money donors paying for the groups campaign ads. Far from being unconstitutional, this sort of disclosure was explicitly endorsed in Justice Anthony Kennedys Citizens United majority opinion as the less-restrictive alternative to more comprehensive speech regulations.
In 2010, after supporters of the DISCLOSE Act agreed to exempt just the NRAfrom the bill, the group dropped its opposition. Now, without those special protections in the 2012 version, the group is taking no chances and is issuing a strong message to any Senator who might support political transparency. The NRA letter warns:
Due to the importance of the fundamental speech and associational rights of the National Rifle Associations four million members, and considering the blatant attack on those rights that S. 3369 represents, we strongly oppose the DISCLOSE Act and will consider votes on this legislation in future candidate evaluations.
Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/07/13/516229/exclusive-nra-threatens-senators-who-support-campaign-finance-disclosure/
sinkingfeeling
(51,436 posts)to vote, but demand the people trying to buy our government be protected?
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)Nancy Waterman
(6,407 posts)Important connection there.
Canuckistanian
(42,290 posts)Scrutiny for thee, but not for me
lostnote12
(159 posts)myrna minx
(22,772 posts)PavePusher
(15,374 posts)for voting.
The First, not so much.
That said, I believe any political speech or funding needs to be publicly listed as to source. Sounds like Amendment time to me.
permatex
(1,299 posts)We need more transparency in Govt.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Busted!
trumad
(41,692 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)Top donors will take over and decide on the president and cabinet
The "militia" will enforce the coup of the rich with their unabated guns.
siligut
(12,272 posts)Though it's not like our police and military are liberals.
hack89
(39,171 posts)so where are you getting this militia nonsense from?
wordpix
(18,652 posts)It just makes sense. The Second Amend. gives the right to bear arms based on, "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State..."
So people organize militias, giving them the right to bear arms and "secure a free State."
You don't get that the RW "Obama is a tyrant" and "Obama wasn't born here" memes are tied to the NRA and "Second Amendment" groups? If O is a tyrant and an illegal occupier of the WH due to his "non-American" birth, the early phrases of the amendment give the NRA "the right" to assist self-styled "militias" to "secure a free State."
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)...then, hold it up against the wall with a sawed off shotgun pointed up our collective asses.
liberal N proud
(60,332 posts)boomerbust
(2,181 posts)Will be blowing the NRA again, just like the Holder vote.
brentspeak
(18,290 posts)permatex
(1,299 posts)which also opposes this legislation.
brentspeak
(18,290 posts)I predict 'crickets'.
permatex
(1,299 posts)they're working behind the scenes to pressure their supporters to vote against this.
They have their way, the NRA has their way of doing things.
This shit has been going on in DC since the beginning of politics.
brentspeak
(18,290 posts)Who are the ACLU's "supporters" in Congress who are being pressured to vote against the DISCLOSE Act?
By the way -- when are you going to answer my initial question? Is the ACLU also threatening to "take down" senators who vote for the Disclose Act?
You're right -- I shouldn't have predicted "crickets", but manufactured B.S.
permatex
(1,299 posts)the ACLU lobbies against laws it doesn't like also, they're just not as obvious as the NRA. Everyone does it. I dislike and distrust the NRA, I'm more in tune with the SAF, but back to it, all the NRA is doing is representing their members, just like the ACLU.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Whoda thunk it?
hack89
(39,171 posts)NickB79
(19,224 posts)The ACLU loves to plant the seeds for its own destruction...especially when they support a group that can't wait to gut them like a deer!
Does this mean that the ACLU also agrees with Citizens United and that cash is a form of free speech?
hack89
(39,171 posts)http://www.aclu.org/free-speech/campaign-finance-reform
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)is equivalent to free speech. Money should be removed, some how, from politics entirely.
hack89
(39,171 posts)xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)safeinOhio
(32,635 posts)NRA spokesperson and member of the Board of Directors, speaking out in a terrorist manner.
hack89
(39,171 posts)safeinOhio
(32,635 posts)elected him the same?
hack89
(39,171 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)off your list forever.
That is a nutty insane position.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)I would NEVER support this group EVER if it doesn't renege on this ridiculous stance.
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hack89
(39,171 posts)Response to hack89 (Reply #12)
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hack89
(39,171 posts)by making the definition so expansive that it can fit any group.
The NRA does not fit the accepted definition of terrorist group by any stretch of the imagination.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)The act like it too.
Response to hack89 (Reply #16)
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hack89
(39,171 posts)they are just another group, one among many, with an agenda and the clout to influence congress.
If one or two wackoos is the best you have then you have nothing. How many pictures can you show me from the past 6 months of a guy with an assault rifle at a presidential event? Lets see the depth of this terrorist organization.
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hack89
(39,171 posts)besides historically low levels of gun violence that is.
You need to put up some real facts. Some real numbers showing that all this "incitement" has created a real public harm. Less hyperbole and more statistics would be a good start. You do have some actual facts don't you?
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)To most of us that's a bad thing.
permatex
(1,299 posts)Why is that?
Can you provide a link to the "more unstable people armed with guns and fewer things stopping them" article please?
wordpix
(18,652 posts)operated with community input in poor and crime-ridden communities. Also, public schools now have psychological counselors, college counselors, social workers, after school programs including tutoring, in-school tutoring, and other services for children/teens. There are also good educational programs in correctional facilities.
Nothing I've read (and due to my job, I've read a lot) attributes the drop in crime to increased gun ownership.
permatex
(1,299 posts)I agree that there are many reasons for the drop in crime rates, the boomer's aging, better policing, to name a couple. What I meant was that more guns does not=more crime, but at the same time more guns does not mean less crime.
hack89
(39,171 posts)it looks more like your irrational fear of guns then anything else. Not a single hard fact just unfocused fear.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)anyone who tells you not to fear a deadly weapon is irrational.
and you spend all day doing that here.
by the way, thanks for spending so much time advocating for liberal causes here at DU.
or was that someone else?
permatex
(1,299 posts)I respect them and what they can do if used irresponsibly. Why would you fear an inanimate object?
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)don't fear a gun. right, got it.
permatex
(1,299 posts)I've been around them all my life, no fear of them, just respect them.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)afraid of hurting its feelings?
permatex
(1,299 posts)inanimate object?
How can you hurt an inanimate objects feelings?
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)permatex
(1,299 posts)Last edited Sat Jul 14, 2012, 09:27 AM - Edit history (1)
hack89
(39,171 posts)because that is all you have left.
Don't forget - you have never been safer. Put aside your fear and enjoy life.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)and I'm in California, where they are heavily regulated.
hack89
(39,171 posts)the legal tide is definitely against them. But you will still be safe - just like every other American.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)i don't spend all my time or even a big chunk of my time on guns.
there are poor people to worry about and civil rights being denied to people and children that are harmed by environmental problems and poverty that affects them and often their mothers far out of proportion to their numbers.
and those are the issues i spend the most time on here, because that's what most of us do.
but some people spend almost all their time here advocating for guns and relaxed gun laws and complaining about taxes.
i'm not one of them.
hack89
(39,171 posts)I want the Bush tax cuts to expire.
I defend gun rights because there are many gun owning Democrats and I refused to be marginalized here.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)Who are you anyway?
hack89
(39,171 posts)one of many.
I am no longer a member of the NRA due to their politics. I do, however, support the 2A and the RKBA.
bongbong
(5,436 posts)> besides historically low levels of gun violence that is.
The gun-relgionist whom I've corrected many times makes the same lie.
Gun religionists must worship their Precious!
hack89
(39,171 posts)Last edited Sat Jul 14, 2012, 09:43 AM - Edit history (1)
I have said many time - more guns do not mean lower crime. All we can say is the gun violence is down despite more guns. The reasons are many and complex.
Every time you pop up with your lie about my position. I correct you. And you pop and lie again.
Please stop lying about my position.
permatex
(1,299 posts)rl6214
(8,142 posts)You don't fail to live up to that expectation.
permatex
(1,299 posts)I asked several time for links to what H/She was claiming and all I got was more hyperbole and insults, which is the usual case when there is no evidence of a statement made.
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)They then threaten and intimidate our legislatures. They sound like the most sophisticated terrorist group ever. Fuck the NRA.
hack89
(39,171 posts)besides record low levels of gun violence that is?
You don't like guns. Got it. Just remember that you have never been safer.
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hack89
(39,171 posts)I thought epidemics killed more and more people, not the opposite.
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/10tbl01.xls
wordpix
(18,652 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)just pointing out two things:
1. Despite popular beliefs, America has been experiencing decreasing gun violence for 3 decades.
2. More guns and laxer gun laws did not lead to more gun violence
That is all.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)You need to separate out generic "crime" with "use of deadly weapons crimes" to make such a comparison.
hack89
(39,171 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)provides at-risk students with more individualized instruction and adult interaction. As long as these programs are in place and reasonably good, students recognize there are caring adults around them at school, if not at home. They (the students) tend to make better choices b/c they have mentors steering them to productive options and they understand crime is not the best one.
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)bongbong
(5,436 posts)about this lie of yours (the implication that more guns = more safety) yet you still keep repeating the lie.
You gun-religionists are a HOOT! I'm glad nobody at DU outside of the Dungeon takes you nuts seriously.
hack89
(39,171 posts)I have never said more guns = more safety. All I have said is that gun violence is down despite more guns. That is the true and you know it.
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rl6214
(8,142 posts)showing where they are pumping these guns into. Do I have to get on a list to get a gun from the NRA? Are they free or at least discounted?
Tunkamerica
(4,444 posts)a terrorist organization. He didn't expand a definition, he didn't twist the constitution. He simply said what he said. Explain it to yourself however you see fit; but don't put words in people's mouths.
FBI def. of terrorism:
There is no single, universally accepted, definition of terrorism. Terrorism is defined in the Code of Federal Regulations as the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives (28 C.F.R. Section 0.85).
If you and a "/or" after 'force and' the NRA fits snugly within the definition.
permatex
(1,299 posts)showing the NRA advocating violence against the govt. or the civilian population?
I've been all over the NRA website looking for just such a thing and damned if I can find it.
What, is it a super duper secret site that you have to have a special password for?
If so, PM me the password and I'll look at it.
Tunkamerica
(4,444 posts)nevermind you were kicked because yr a disruptor
hack89
(39,171 posts)not one thing.
There is no use of force and violence involved.
I abhor the NRA, but just because you don't like them doesn't mean they should be banned.
Are you sure you want to go down that road?
What happens when the R's get back in power?
Maybe they'll say the same thing about the ACLU, the SPLC, Planned Parenthood.
You see where this is going?
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And as a terrorist Org.?
Why are they a terrorist org.?
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Joe Allbaugh
And worse:
http://www.meetthenra.org/sort-leaders
permatex
(1,299 posts)but how does that make the NRA a terror org.? And try to give and honest answer please.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)permatex
(1,299 posts)How does that make the NRA a terror org.?
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permatex
(1,299 posts)I went to the NRA website and couldn't find anything like what you claim. Could you please post a link to what you claim?
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permatex
(1,299 posts)you made the accusations, you provide the proof.
Pretty simple.
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)permatex
(1,299 posts)Where do you people come up with this dribble?
The NRA doesn't arm anyone, they don't have a Class 1 FFL, so how can they arm anyone?
Perhaps you can provide the link to where I can get a gun from the NRA?
hack89
(39,171 posts)permatex
(1,299 posts)Whats your point? Does that make him a terrorist?
donquijoterocket
(488 posts)are.50 BMG caliber rifles legal? Who needs one and for what?
permatex
(1,299 posts)What does need have to do with it?
They sure are fun to shoot, but the ammo is expensive as hell.
hack89
(39,171 posts)what harm does that gun represent such that the state can restrict a civil liberty? Do you always take the side of state power and require that citizens justify their choices? What is wrong with the state having to show why such guns need to be banned?
You can start by documenting all the crime committed by 50 cal rifles.
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)that event was 15 years ago - is that the best you have?
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hack89
(39,171 posts)you must have love the Patriot Act?
But tell me, if they are designed only to kill as many people as possible, why can't you document any deaths? Please fill free to provide some actual facts.
permatex
(1,299 posts)It's semi auto, you know, 1 trigger pull for each bullet. Please learn what your talking about.
Are you calling a fellow DU'er a closet terrorist.
That smacks of a TOS violation.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)because they don't have a healthy view of what it means to be part of modern society.
permatex
(1,299 posts)Or is this just another one of you "opinions"?
I want one and I have a very healthy view of modern society. I also don't live in a glass bubble like you seem to.
BTW, just for you Hoyt, I bought my Valmet Model 76 .223 cal. rifle yesterday and it's on it's way to a gun store in LV for p/u next week. I'm doing my part to make sure that America's firearm heritage marches on.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)that your need to have something as destructive as this should trump society's best long-term interest.
permatex
(1,299 posts)1. I want one because they're alot of fun to shoot, expensive, but fun.
2. When did we get a Dept. of Needs?
3. Anything can be destructive, from a sewing needle to a Nuclear Weapon.
4. It doesn't harm society if used legally and responsibly.
5. I asked for proof from you and, as usual, you failed to provide and then deflected.
6. What YOU think about legal gun owners/conceal carry is really irrelevant to my owning and/or carrying.
7. What YOU think about my wanting to own a .50 BMG is really irrelevant to my owning one.
8. Have I about covered it?
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Response to permatex (Reply #28)
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permatex
(1,299 posts)Where does the NRA say that any lunatic can own a firearm? Are you aware that the NRA has been instrumental in helping pass alot of the gun control laws in this country?
Where are you getting your info? Brady or VPC?
BTW there is a Right to Keep and Bear Arms in this country, as evidenced by the 2A of the BoR.
Terrorist Org.-what a laugh.
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permatex
(1,299 posts)you have no proof of what you claim? Would that be correct?
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permatex
(1,299 posts)you have no proof, links or otherwise that the NRA is a terrorist org. do you? If you don't have proof, just admit it.
If the Govt. thought in any way that the NRA was a terror org., it would have been shut down along time ago.
rl6214
(8,142 posts)Response to permatex (Reply #17)
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permatex
(1,299 posts)Response to permatex (Reply #65)
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permatex
(1,299 posts)Ted Kennedy was on that watchlist.
Oh I get it I get it, you support the Patriot Act. You don't give a shit about due process do you?
Once your on that list, you have no recourse to prove that you don't belong, hell you don't even know your on the list until you try to board a plane, as in Kennedy's case, or try to buy a firearm, to name a couple of ways to find out.
You are making this far too easy.
Tell you what, why don't you pettition the govt to have the NRA added to the unconstitutional terror watchlist and see how far you get.
On edit: did you even read what you linked to? Are you even aware that every civil rights org. opposes the watch list?
So you support shit like the terror watch list?
If so, your in the wrong place, FR is down the street and to the Right.
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permatex
(1,299 posts)So Teddy is a RW douchbag? How does that make the NRA a terrorist org.?
Your really flailing here.
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permatex
(1,299 posts)you cannot provide any PROOF that the NRA is a terrorist org.?
Dude, your making this way too easy.
BTW, your opinion of the NRA is an opinion only, doesn't mean it's true.
Sure, NRA sucks, doesn't make them a terror org. unless of course, you have evidence to back up your claim, if so, then contact the FBI with your evidence and demand an investigation.
Let us know how that works out for ya, OK?
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permatex
(1,299 posts)to classify a legal org. supported by millions of people as a terror org. says all that I need to know about you. Thats why I refuse to take anything you say on this subject seriously.
You also seem to be willing to curb the 1A for people you don't like. Nugent is a RW douchbag, but he has the RIGHT to express his opinions as does the NRA however much we don't like it.
NRA=Terror Org. What a crock of shit.
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permatex
(1,299 posts)Just because you and a tiny minority in the country think that, doesn't make it true much as you would like it to.
I think that your royally pissed off because gun rights are advancing in the country and your powerless to stop it.
Meanwhile support for gun control is dropping, as evidenced by the dramatic drop in support for a handgun ban:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/150341/record-low-favor-handgun-ban.aspx
Also violent crime is down sinc the 1960's:
https://www.hsdl.org/hslog/?q=node/6572
you can read it here.
Terror org. my ass.
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fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)are you blind? Do they not lobby for laws allowing gun manufacturers and dealers to sell more to people by making them think they NEED more guns? How's SYG laws helping to increase gun sales? Hmmmm.... who is telling the ignorant masses in America that Obama is going to take their guns away, creating a wave of gun sales?
They use terror.
permatex
(1,299 posts)Funny thing is, most LEO's, Fed, state, and local use NRA trained firearms instructors. Police agencies around the country go to schools and use the NRA's Eddie Eagle safety program. They sure don't seem to think that the NRA is a terror org.
Your accusations that the NRA is a terror org. is your opinion which is a very minority opinion. The NRA itself has some pretty good programs, it's the NRA-ILA and the board thats bat shit crazy.
SYG laws increasing gun sales? Have a link to that?
Yeah the NRA saying that Obama is going to take your guns away is pure bullshit, but how does that classify them as a terror org?
fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)their day is numbered.
permatex
(1,299 posts)Prove it. Show me a link that shows they are fading.
Why do you post lies about other DU'ers? Where am I lobbying for them. I've stated time and time again that I abhor them, that doesn't mean I'm lobbying for them. I just don't go along with the ridiculous notion that they are a terrorist org.
NRA has been around since the late 1800's, so you really think their days are numbered?
Why is it that gun control org. like the Brady's, VPC, MAIG, can't get anything passed? Why does their membership number in the hundreds instead of the millions like the NRA?
Because gun control groups like these went to far in their quest to have guns banned and their was a huge backlash from the public.
You may not like it, but thats the way it is.
NRA a terrorist org.? Yeah, right. There leadership are all RW douchbags for sure, but the NRA is not a terror org. in any way, shape or form.
We will just have to agree to disagree on this.
Suji to Seoul
(2,035 posts)idiots have their way, in order to donate openly. Meanwhile, their bosses can do it through the backdoor and no one can ask who let the clown out of the box?
bobthedrummer
(26,083 posts)Mz Pip
(27,430 posts)then I think we are all entitled to see who is speaking.
librechik
(30,673 posts)sad how many will sign on for that agenda
annabanana
(52,791 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)we can form our progressive militia if need be.
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)During the bush regnecy
permatex
(1,299 posts)DFW
(54,276 posts)You could not wish for an angrier, nastier, more arrogant right-wing ideologue than David Keane.
He is certainly made for the NRA, and they for him. It doesn't surprise me in the slightest that
he is having the NRA make threats to congressmen who don't do as he says. He calls himself
"conservative," but he is anything but. He is a radical right-wing ideologue who no more qualifies
as "conservative" in his ways than a cement mixer qualifies as an airliner.
xtraxritical
(3,576 posts)Turbineguy
(37,285 posts)They would have been listed as a Terrorist Organization.
2ndAmForComputers
(3,527 posts)Manifest thyselves.
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)2ndAmForComputers
(3,527 posts)secondvariety
(1,245 posts)exists to promote the gun and ammo industry. That's it. They don't give a shit about anything but the Second Amendment and they only give a shit about that because it's profitable for the gun and ammo industry.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)NOT disclosing donors is preventing free speech.
Up is down, black is white, freedom of speech is keeping bribery hidden.
DBoon
(22,338 posts)... what would be the media response?
AJTheMan
(288 posts)Now it's just another wing of the GOP. I mean I support gun ownership and I generally agree with the NRA but this shit is getting ridiculous. Stop calling yourself the NRA if you're just an extension of the GOP. I mean, damn, do you not want any pro-gun Democrats?
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permatex
(1,299 posts)Odin2005
(53,521 posts)...when the "Them Libruls in black UN helicopters are gonna come take our guns" BS popped up.
hack89
(39,171 posts)greatest gift the NRA ever received.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)the AWB was the greatest gift the NRA ever got and they never looked back.
Tippy
(4,610 posts)I almost feel sorry for her they are pouring a lot of money into to deffeat her...http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/nra-finds-gop-lawmakers-resistant-gun-laws-16770939
Secondly I wonder if anyone has seen the NRA'S TV program on the election..I was channel surfering Thursday night and found it on the True TV channel...I watched for as long as I could take it...It was a real hit piece on Obama...the best way I can describe it was NASTY...I am not sure how long it was but over 30 minutes...If anyone else saw it let me know...I sat there not believing what I was hearing and crying...
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)The whole Pro-Gun/Anti-Gun debate has already erupted, but it really should be noted that this isn't about guns. It's about campaign finance, and the fact the the NRA is weighing in on an issue that doesn't involve the Second Amendment but does, in fact, provide aid and comfort to the Republican Party is worth noting.
I've said for years that the NRA is not a gun rights organization. It's a gun industry lobbying organization. They've lobbied against making guns safer and more traceable (which hurts the corporate bottom line) and in favor of allowing guns to be sold in whatever venue and to whomever might happen to want to purchase one (which improves sales). Neither of these issues has an impact whatsoever on me, a hunter and owner of multiple firearms.
In fact, there's nothing the NRA has EVER done legislatively that provided even the slightest benefit to me as a gun owner. So their latest foray into electoral politics comes as no surprise. If the NRA comes out tomorrow in favor of banning abortion, it won't surprise me a bit.
They're simply an all-purpose, right-wing lobbying group.
permatex
(1,299 posts)this might interest you:
http://www.nraila.org/hunting/issues-and-alerts/2012/6/new-york-comment-period-open-in-proposed-pro-hunting-plans-for-montezuma-national-wildlife-refuge.aspx
http://www.nraila.org/hunting/issues-and-alerts/2012/6/new-york-mourning-dove-hunting-legislation-now-pending-in-senate-committee.aspx
http://www.nraila.org/hunting/issues-and-alerts/2012/5/minnesota-governor-signs-important-pro-hunting-legislation-into-law.aspx
Just a few pro hunting pieces of legislation supported by the NRA.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go take a bathe with steel wool to get the stench of NRA-ILA off of me.
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)These are not of the slightest interest to me.
Dove Hunting? Wolf Hunting? Yeah, I'm right on that.
And the third article would have opened up a game preserve to hunting. Why in the fuck would I support that? The purpose of a game preserve is to provide a sanctuary for wildlife where they're not subject to human predation. Part of conservation is making sure there's wildlife available to future generations of hunters, and game preserves play an important role in that. Of course, the NRA could not give two shits because they're interest is selling more guns.
Paladin
(28,243 posts)Play that tune one more time for us, Gun Enthusiasts---grim, ironic laughter is better than no laughter at all.