Tue Jul 10, 2012, 11:25 AM
kpete (71,074 posts)
Repub Rep: I Don’t Think Someone Who Is Diagnosed With Brain Tumor Should Have Health Care Provided
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 Repub Rep: I Don’t Think Someone Who Is Diagnosed With Brain Tumor Should Have Health Care Provided (Original post) |
kpete | Jul 2012 | OP |
| LoisB | Jul 2012 | #1 | |
| JustABozoOnThisBus | Jul 2012 | #6 | |
| CreekDog | Jul 2012 | #74 | |
| The Magistrate | Jul 2012 | #21 | |
| dixiegrrrrl | Jul 2012 | #35 | |
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| hue | Jul 2012 | #47 | |
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| awoke_in_2003 | Jul 2012 | #31 | |
| smirkymonkey | Jul 2012 | #118 | |
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| hue | Jul 2012 | #50 | |
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 11:27 AM
1. Gee I hope he doesn't get a brain tumor.
Response to LoisB (Reply #1)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 11:30 AM
JustABozoOnThisBus (22,899 posts)
6. Not to worry, his health insurance is very good
Response to JustABozoOnThisBus (Reply #6)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 03:15 PM
74. his insurance is government regulated, government provided, akin to the ACA model
Response to LoisB (Reply #1)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 12:05 PM
catbyte (32,394 posts)
30. I used to not wish these asshats ill, but
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now, I say bring it on. I hope they get a very painful and expensive condition, like, say, TMJ. TMJ is usually only covered by dental insurance which is notoriously crappy. I want these shitheads to suffer the way they say they want to make others suffer. Maybe they'll find the compassion that is so lacking in their miserable souls, although I doubt it.
This is a big shift for me--I used to wish people the best, even teabaggers, but no more. I say give them a dose of their own mean-spiritedness and see how THEY like it. 
Diane Anishinaabe in MI & mom to Taz, Nigel, and new baby brother Sammy, members of Dogs Against Romney, Cat Division "Dogs Aren’t Luggage--HISS!” |
Response to catbyte (Reply #30)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 12:26 PM
42. Damn, how can you NOT wish these killers ill? Because they ARE killers. Their policies KILL. nt
Response to catbyte (Reply #30)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 12:47 PM
47. It would be Ayn Rand "all over again!"
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When the "philosophical vanguard" of the Tea Party/Conservative Right was sick in the hospital with lung cancer (she was a chain smoker) she filed for disability from the government--under a false name-- to help pay her bills though in all her writings she defiled all government assistance!
Yet the Tea Party/Right Wingers never see the irony of this--not an in depth perception of things.  |
Response to catbyte (Reply #30)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 12:55 PM
53. Hard to disagree. After all, these pathetic
Response to LoisB (Reply #1)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 12:08 PM
awoke_in_2003 (34,582 posts)
31. I know it is wrong...
Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 11:28 AM
sinkingfeeling (48,067 posts)
2. So the GOP solution is to let the near-bankrupt states pay for such
Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #3)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 11:31 AM
LeftishBrit (40,326 posts)
7. Dreier is not at risk of a brain tumour, as he doesn't possess the relevant organ.
Response to LeftishBrit (Reply #7)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 11:45 AM
18. Maybe he will come down with mouth tumor -- n/t
Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #3)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 11:32 AM
geardaddy (24,522 posts)
9. You are correct sir!
Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #3)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 04:18 PM
80. Well he EARNED his health care insurance, funded by taxpayers, doncha know?
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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #3)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 09:20 PM
Skittles (149,444 posts)
93. CORRECT
Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 11:28 AM
lastlib (20,634 posts)
4. Dreier IS a brain tumor...
Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 11:29 AM
LeftishBrit (40,326 posts)
5. Evil pure evil
Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 11:31 AM
8. These people are so used to making money off of the misery of others.
Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 11:33 AM
10. Privatize the profits, socialize the costs.
Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 11:34 AM
geardaddy (24,522 posts)
11. According to his Wiki page, he's a Christian Scientist
Response to geardaddy (Reply #11)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 05:14 PM
84. So you gotta ask -- WTH does he have health insurance at all? nt
Response to geardaddy (Reply #11)
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 01:35 PM
111. And this, folks, is why WOO KILLS.
Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 11:34 AM
12. the only way for any pools to work is if you mix high risk and low risk together.
Response to ejpoeta (Reply #12)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 09:27 PM
94. +1 VERY irresponsible/stupid of Dreier to say state should take on the burden of high risk only pool
Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 11:36 AM
13. I believe only perfectly healthy people should be covered.
Response to Liberal Veteran (Reply #13)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 09:28 PM
95. that's the R way, pay forever & never get covered for anything
Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #46)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 01:07 PM
58. Haha! I'm totally with Ya' on that!! n/t
Response to truebrit71 (Reply #15)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 06:15 PM
88. Your comments got me to thinking about why people willingly vote against their interests.
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The answer is in front of us if we choose to acknowledge it.
The right wing in this country is making use of a meme underlying American culture that is being stoked by that right wing for political and economic advantage. We see what that meme is in the so-called birther movement (the contention that President Obama wasn't born in the U.S. even though the President has a birth certificate to prove it). We see it in the hostility towards Latinos and towards Muslims as well as African-Americans (the major reason for the hostility toward President Obama by the right wing). It is mainly our culture of racist bigotry that is being stoked and manipulated by our right wing and the one-percent to create division in American politics. Practically every other modern industrialized country believes that society should provide access to affordable health care to its citizens, yet the country that spends the largest amount of money on health care has the highest percentage of citizens who can't afford it. **** How can people fret so much about tax evading millionaires, thieving bankers, and crooked hedge fund operators when "welfare queens" are getting all that free health care and driving Cadillacs on the taxpayer dime? 
**** We see this bigotry in Republican efforts to disenfranchise voters who vote in large numbers for Democrats, namely African Americans. We see this bigotry in the higher incarceration rate of African-Americans. The bottom line is that people's fear of those who are "different" from themselves is stoked by the Powers That Be and the right wing media, as well as common, ordinary racists and bigots. The right wing propaganda machine does its best to promote the idea that those that they want to demonize are somehow different from their base of supporters in order to rile up their base against the target. Hence, the continued challenging of President Obama's citizenship in order to predispose people to question and to reject his health care reform, his tax policies, and so forth. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 11:39 AM
16. He says he is a Christian Scientist too.
Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 11:40 AM
17. This politician's comment would make a great ad for why people should NOT vote Republican.
Response to 4lbs (Reply #19)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 11:54 AM
geardaddy (24,522 posts)
27. I'm in a high-risk pool in Minnesota.
Response to 4lbs (Reply #19)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 12:09 PM
32. It's all about the profit
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Health insurance isn't "insurance" at all. It's an extended payment plan. Everyone (for various values of "everyone"
 will need medical care during their life. At the beginning of life, no one knows when or how sick they will be or what care they will need. The commercial insurance industry is incentivized to sell insurance to those who will least likely need it the least over the coverage period of the policy. Those most incentivized to purchase insurance are those most likely to need it.
That conflict sets up the entire problem. Pools will naturally attract those most needing it. Insurance companies will work to attract those least likely to need medical care. Setting up a system to ENCOURAGE that division only makes the problem worse. The more you pool larger and larger populations together, the lower the individual costs can be. It is also how you can control the costs of care most efficiently because the demands and volumes can be more accurating anticipated and funded in manners that will allow the collection of revenue to be spread over longer periods of time. It is why all of our economic competitors are able to deliver health CARE at roughly 1/5th of what we do. They control costs of health CARE delivery, as well as spread them over large populations over long periods of time. Instead of some ill concieved nightmare of mandates and pools, and 50 state run exchanges and public health care clinics in combination with for profit hospitals. A system designed by the GOP to foil universal health CARE and deliver specified profits to the insurance companies. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 11:47 AM
LittleGirl (7,854 posts)
20. Just like Alan Grayson said
Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 11:51 AM
avebury (10,835 posts)
25. Talk about death panels! nt
Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 11:54 AM
26. ooh, i think i agree with him, BUT isn't
Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 11:57 AM
Kablooie (18,143 posts)
29. That's my representative!
Response to Kablooie (Reply #29)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 12:13 PM
still_one (87,919 posts)
37. dryer is no moderate.
Response to still_one (Reply #37)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 12:53 PM
Kablooie (18,143 posts)
52. Hey, I've never seen that website. Very informative. Thanks.
Response to Kablooie (Reply #52)
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 01:21 AM
still_one (87,919 posts)
98. No problem we are all here for each other. /nt
Response to Kablooie (Reply #29)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 12:17 PM
catrose (4,842 posts)
39. High-risk health care in my state
Response to catrose (Reply #39)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 12:52 PM
Kablooie (18,143 posts)
51. It's certainly no replacement for the ACA system.
Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 12:09 PM
33. You all know what the one thing is that gets people through the greatest of horrors is?
Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 12:13 PM
CanonRay (13,241 posts)
36. The real Republican health care: Let them die. Quickly.
Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 12:14 PM
38. Dreier is also a pro-offshore-outsourcer and a pro-Laissez-failist.
Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 12:23 PM
40. This was my son Ian
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in May of 2008:
This is Ian 7 months later, in December 2008, two weeks before he died: 
Ian had a brain tumor which took his life. I watched my son waste away from a healthy, happy, high-energy 9 year old kid who loved to go on hikes,wrestle with dad, and swim like a fish, to a shell of a human that could not urinate or pass stool on his own, could not walk, and could not even smile without pushing his lips into the right shape with his fingers. What kind of absolute inhuman monster would deny this child health care? If David Drier were burning to death in a pit of flames, I wouldn't piss on his head to put the fucking flames out. |
Response to demwing (Reply #40)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 12:48 PM
48. I am so sorry for your loss, demwing.
Response to demwing (Reply #40)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 12:59 PM
kimbutgar (18,777 posts)
54. My condolences on the loss of your beautiful child.
Response to demwing (Reply #40)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 12:59 PM
Raster (20,989 posts)
55. My sincere sympathies. Thank you for sharing Ian's story.
Response to demwing (Reply #40)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 03:42 PM
qanda (10,422 posts)
76. My heart goes out to you
Response to demwing (Reply #40)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 05:07 PM
alphafemale (18,497 posts)
83. I'm so sorry for your loss and what your beautiful child had to suffer through.
Response to demwing (Reply #92)
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 01:36 AM
99. As the mother of a dialysis / transplant patient, I couldn't agree with you more.
Response to Justitia (Reply #99)
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 12:18 PM
105. as the daughter of an advanced Alzheimer's patient, +10000
Response to demwing (Reply #92)
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 01:59 PM
geardaddy (24,522 posts)
114. So sorry for your loss DW
Response to demwing (Reply #40)
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 02:50 AM
Skittles (149,444 posts)
101. .
Ian was beautiful |
Response to demwing (Reply #40)
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 06:37 AM
barbtries (27,823 posts)
103. so sorry for your loss.
Response to demwing (Reply #40)
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 12:16 PM
104. so sorry, and I'd love for you to confront Dreier with these photos
Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 12:25 PM
41. Someone, give that man a brain tumor and see if he changes his mind! nt
Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 12:32 PM
43. The solution to health care reform is to immediately cut health care
Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 12:35 PM
xxqqqzme (14,887 posts)
44. That 'pool'
Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 12:42 PM
liberal N proud (59,790 posts)
45. What a sick, no sadistic bastard.
Response to Swede Atlanta (Reply #49)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 01:02 PM
57. these decisions should NOT be made by insurance reps, politicians, or CEOs of hospitals.
Response to Swede Atlanta (Reply #60)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 02:33 PM
69. You are falling for a Republican lie. We don't do what you describe.
Response to Swede Atlanta (Reply #49)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 02:20 PM
67. We spend whatever it takes to kill people in wars in countries in .
Response to Lint Head (Reply #56)
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 01:19 PM
shanti (21,603 posts)
107. TG, he's retiring this year!
Response to shanti (Reply #107)
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 01:32 PM
109. He'll probably end up as a lobbiest for the Health Care Insurance Industry.
Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 01:33 PM
61. The GOP house is still trying to repeal ACA
Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 02:11 PM
65. David Dreier, the walking death panel.
Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 02:25 PM
68. I'm thinking this asshole has a brain tumor....
Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 02:43 PM
72. My neice had cancer when she was 2 ... this ass would have let her die.
Response to JoePhilly (Reply #72)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 03:45 PM
RKP5637 (65,643 posts)
77. GOP is fixated on owning vaginae, but after birth they don't give a
Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 03:35 PM
75. Well, what else is he going to say?
Response to TheMastersNemesis (Reply #78)
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 01:19 PM
shanti (21,603 posts)
108. he's retiring this year n/t
Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 04:14 PM
79. VILE! What is wrong with these people?
Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 06:16 PM
89. I don't think anyone w/ his head up his butt should be elected to office
Response to kpete (Original post)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 06:55 PM
90. An extreme example has been use here.
Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #90)
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 11:09 PM
97. If you are not 100% against what Drier said, you are relegating this man to no treatment whatsoever
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just let him die at home if he doesn't have the money for anything else.
it's not an extreme example. whatever his prognosis, have you the audacity to suggest he not get ANY treatment? not for pain, not for whatever? no doctor to even find out his prognosis? you been here a long time, i guess my impatience is that you seem to think no treatment isn't so bad if he's going to die anyway. 
and what you said about insurance rates are based on, that's BS. they are currently based on what the market will bear and many people aren't allowed in the market. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 01:35 PM
110. This guy is the definition of asshole.
