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Mon Oct 24, 2016, 08:48 AM

Luntz: Some Trump Voters Won't Vote Republican Down Ballot To Send Message To Establishment

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Source: Real Clear Politics

LUNTZ: Well, I have been to 26 states now. I will probably make it to 30 before the election is over. And it means that there is no coming together.

And I think it’s going to be very challenging for the GOP, because you have got some Trump voters who are unwilling to vote for a Republican for Senate or Congress as a way to send a message to the establishment, and you have got some independents who want to vote Republican for the Senate and the House, but won’t because they’re too connected to Donald Trump.

With only 17 days to go, I have not seen an election like this, where there is so much intraparty battles going on at a time when the Republicans should be focused on the Democrats and prosecuting the case against their leadership.

Read more: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/10/23/luntz_some_trump_voters_wont_vote_republican_down_ballot_to_send_message_to_establishment.html



Opportunity here, folks: Can you take to the newsgroups, Twitters, Social Media,
message boards to encourage your 'fellow' Republicans to send a message of
disapproval to the GOP establishment by not voting??

It's an opp that doesn't come along very often, we should seize it

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Reply Luntz: Some Trump Voters Won't Vote Republican Down Ballot To Send Message To Establishment (Original post)
bucolic_frolic Oct 2016 OP
Mc Mike Oct 2016 #1
Cha Oct 2016 #2
bucolic_frolic Oct 2016 #9
Ligyron Oct 2016 #34
Cary Oct 2016 #22
procon Oct 2016 #3
NewJeffCT Oct 2016 #5
procon Oct 2016 #10
yeoman6987 Oct 2016 #33
Kingofalldems Oct 2016 #37
LonePirate Oct 2016 #4
klook Oct 2016 #6
getagrip_already Oct 2016 #17
turbinetree Oct 2016 #7
SHRED Oct 2016 #15
turbinetree Oct 2016 #31
colsohlibgal Oct 2016 #8
meow2u3 Oct 2016 #11
bucolic_frolic Oct 2016 #12
klook Oct 2016 #21
putitinD Oct 2016 #27
pnwmom Oct 2016 #13
bucolic_frolic Oct 2016 #26
pnwmom Oct 2016 #35
FailureToCommunicate Oct 2016 #14
George II Oct 2016 #16
TonyPDX Oct 2016 #18
DrToast Oct 2016 #24
padfun Oct 2016 #32
broadcaster75201 Oct 2016 #19
milestogo Oct 2016 #20
Botany Oct 2016 #23
ProfessorGAC Oct 2016 #38
FairWinds Oct 2016 #25
judesedit Oct 2016 #28
jimlup Oct 2016 #29
Sunlei Oct 2016 #30
sinkingfeeling Oct 2016 #36
duncang Oct 2016 #39
George II Oct 2016 #40

Response to bucolic_frolic (Original post)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 08:53 AM

1. And some partisan supporters of those repug congresscritters won't vote dRump. Rec, nt.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Original post)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 08:59 AM

2. And, what message is that?.. That

you're stupid? Please proceed.

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Response to Cha (Reply #2)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 09:19 AM

9. Well ...

"I'm thinking about not even voting because of Trump, the party
has not listened to us normal suburbanites for awhile, they listen
to lobbyist and TV pundits, but they always want our checks, and
this Trump is what we get!"

or something along those lines

It calls for an astute indirect line for sure

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #9)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 12:14 PM

34. OTHO, I've been spreading the word that "we" should punish all down ballot GrOPers

for not supporting Trump more fully. Doesn't matter if they actually did or not - it's what our Fuhrer really wants whether or not he actually says it.

I tell them it will bring on the RW revolution all baggers like us long for and herald in the white supremacist theocracy they so desire.

Have no idea if this actually helps but it's fun to do.

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Response to Cha (Reply #2)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 11:03 AM

22. Ha!

That's as good as any.

It could also be "I'm crazy."

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Original post)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 09:00 AM

3. LOL! The Stupid Party is a top contender for the Darwin Award.

Are all these dumb voters a naturally occurring mutation in nature, or did the GOP create them in a secret eugenics lab?

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Response to procon (Reply #3)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 09:08 AM

5. they may be the stupid party

per Bobby Jindal, but they still control the House, Senate and a majority of governorships and state legislatures.

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #5)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 09:23 AM

10. If they won't vote for Republicans down ballot its going to be very hard

for the GOP to remain in control of much of anything, yeah? Its such a fiendishly brilliant idea, I suspect the seeds were sewn by a far greater intelligence than the average Republican voter.

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Response to procon (Reply #10)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 12:11 PM

33. 2018 is so bad for democratic supporters

 

I hate how the senate has these big swing elections. The senate may change leadership 5 times in a decade.

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Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #33)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 12:19 PM

37. What does 2018 have to do with the discussion?

Reads like gloating from here.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Original post)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 09:02 AM

4. The more Trump voters who refuse to vote down ballot, the better.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Original post)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 09:16 AM

6. They don't have the guts to stay home,

the stamina. I said, the stamina.

Some people tell me that conservative voters are too chicken to send that message to the Republican establishment. I don't know, you tell me.

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Response to klook (Reply #6)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 10:17 AM

17. it isn't the conservative voters....

it's the deplorables. Assuming of course you draw that distinction.

Seriously, this is all over the rabid wing websites. It's hard to tell if its just a few vocal reptiles or it is taking hold to a wider audience.

But, it is a wonderful thing to see. #nodownballot

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Original post)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 09:16 AM

7. Watched Sixty Minutes last night and the Scott Pelly

and I was struck how one woman (republican) said that she was going to vote for Clinton, but then vote for Portmann.

A woman that wants to protect her right to privacy, and a man, that wants to punish those woman and there right to privacy like Portmann

And then a woman and her husband sitting at a table, she was going to vote for Clinton and him Trump.

What was remarkable in that segment the woman gave her answers on what the dumpster would do if he was in the white house behind closed doors, and the man said because of trade deals, at no time did pelly explain to the steel worker that NAFTA was started under GHW Bush, and that the dumpster has been buying steel from china, and would he still vote for the dumpster

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Response to turbinetree (Reply #7)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 09:44 AM

15. I was waiting for Pelly to say that

 

Trump steel is from China and that tRump outsources his product manufacturing to foreign labor.

But Pelly failed as most of the M$M does.

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Response to SHRED (Reply #15)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 12:04 PM

31. I am just finshing reading my November issue of Harper's Magazine

and when I read the article of what happened with Sanders in the race and the belt way press, and then read the issue of Medicare, which I am on, and then watching Pelly trying to show that the electorate was divided I went BS. His boss Les Moovees thought at the very beginning of this right wing fiasco that the dumptser would be good for the money and his oligarchy empire , screw the news and Medicare, or what this "guy" has been saying about Native's or about the men and woman being thrown to the ground (and attacked by dogs) in North Dakota by sheriff officers from Wisconsin, nope, Pelly, trying to make the presidential race into a horse race and lower the bar of information-----amazing







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Response to bucolic_frolic (Original post)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 09:18 AM

8. Hope He Is Right

Who knows his motive though, he is an evil little dweeb who has fashioned evil memes, totally twisting the truth, to fool the witless.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Original post)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 09:36 AM

11. Don't believe Frank Luntz for one minute

He's up to another sneaky scheme, trying to trick Democrats and other Clinton supporters to take this election for granted by staying home. He's lying through his teeth about repukes abstaining to "send the Establishment a message" when in fact they'll show up.

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Response to meow2u3 (Reply #11)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 09:39 AM

12. Yes GOP are playing that game

Complacency is one of their only cards now

GOTV is most important

Don't allow overconfidence to enter our minds for a moment

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Response to meow2u3 (Reply #11)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 11:01 AM

21. Yes, many of them will crawl over broken glass

to vote against Hillary. Republicans are heavily motivated by fear and hate.

Dems' GOTV effort has got to be massive. Never take anything for granted.

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Response to meow2u3 (Reply #11)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 11:28 AM

27. Repukes will hold their nose and crawl through broken glass to vote. They always do.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Original post)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 09:41 AM

13. self-delete

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #13)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 11:28 AM

26. you want

me to self-delete? I just post the news and put some spin on it

as does everyone else, you think it does more harm than good?

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #26)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 12:15 PM

35. No, I removed my own post because I'd made a mistake. No problem with yours. n/t

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Original post)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 09:43 AM

14. No no no. Voting is a civic duty! Republicans SHOULD vote...

on November 18th



(Oh, and Millennials, please set your alarms for November 8)

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Original post)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 09:44 AM

16. Voters have been doing this for decades, of not centuries. Nothing new about this.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Original post)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 10:19 AM

18. Luntz is a snake. Trying to convince Dems that Hillary's got it in the bag, discouraging turnout.

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Response to TonyPDX (Reply #18)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 11:10 AM

24. I doubt it

99% of voters don't know who Frank Luntz is. They'll never hear this.

Also, it seems plausible to me.

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Response to TonyPDX (Reply #18)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 12:07 PM

32. That wont work

because most of the Dems I know see a good chance to take back the House.

In fact, I am seeing these Dems inspired to vote even more. The early ballot returns are showing that.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Original post)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 10:52 AM

19. Have at it nitwits Now, about those Dem protest voters ... n/t

nt

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Original post)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 10:55 AM

20. All the Trump voters should shoot themselves in both feet

in order to send a message to the world.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Original post)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 11:09 AM

23. Who cares what Frank Luntz has to say.

If the man told me it was cold and dark in Nome, Alaska @ midnight on Jan. 1st I would
put on shorts and sunscreen.

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Response to Botany (Reply #23)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 12:39 PM

38. Nice Image, Botany!

And, i concur wholeheartedly. That guy is a snake.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Original post)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 11:22 AM

25. Yes, and I'd like to "send a message" to Frank Luntz . .

 

one of utter disgust.

Luntz's cynical game playing with the English language has a lot to do
with the debasement of our politics and the rise of Drumphism.

He gets ZERO respect from me.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Original post)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 11:36 AM

28. The repugs have done nothing but obstruct since they've had control of Congress. Vote them out!

Please

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Original post)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 11:43 AM

29. Unfortunately I think it will be a small affect

few actual voters are as frothing at the mouth obsessed as the Trump loud mouths.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Original post)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 11:58 AM

30. They shouldn't. 'Fellow Republicans' shunned him & didn't help his campaign at all.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Original post)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 12:17 PM

36. Hope it's like 90% of them.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Original post)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 12:44 PM

39. I do think it may happen but

There is no way to know if it will be anything actually noticeable. Even off in freeper land some of those saying stuff against ryan you can be sure if in his area will still be voting for him. And this isn't something anybody should take a chance on. Even on the never trump repub side. You can be sure some of them will still vote for him. The only way is to gotv. Waiting till after the election then finding out the never trumps and the not going to vote down ballot actually vote straight repub is not a good idea. It needs to be a push for gotv and hopefully a mandate election. That is really the only way to help keep America moving forward. GOTV to take all three, senate, house, and Presidency.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Original post)

Mon Oct 24, 2016, 01:12 PM

40. Locking - Not Latest Breaking News. Please repost in GD: 2016 Thanks.

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