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Wed Oct 12, 2016, 06:25 PM

Feds believe Russians hacked Florida election-systems vendor

Source: CNN

Federal investigators believe Russian hackers were behind cyberattacks on a contractor for Florida's election system that may have exposed the personal data of Florida voters, according to US officials briefed on the probe.

The hack of the Florida contractor comes on the heels of hacks in Illinois, in which personal data of tens of thousands of voters may have been stolen, and one in Arizona, in which investigators now believe the data of voters was likely exposed.
Election cyber threats: More states request DHS assistance
Election cyber threats: More states request DHS help
The FBI, in the coming days, is preparing to provide updated guidance to state elections officials around the US aiming to help them spot suspicious activity on their computer networks. Several states have reported attempted scans of their computer systems, which often is a precursor to a breach.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/12/politics/florida-election-hack/index.html

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Reply Feds believe Russians hacked Florida election-systems vendor (Original post)
wishstar Oct 2016 OP
Wilms Oct 2016 #1
mjvpi Oct 2016 #3
Wilms Oct 2016 #10
Igel Oct 2016 #14
Coyotl Oct 2016 #15
Cooley Hurd Oct 2016 #2
Foggyhill Oct 2016 #4
pangaia Oct 2016 #5
geek tragedy Oct 2016 #6
Warren DeMontague Oct 2016 #7
forest444 Oct 2016 #11
Foggyhill Oct 2016 #8
Coyotl Oct 2016 #16
Foggyhill Oct 2016 #19
Coyotl Oct 2016 #20
Foggyhill Oct 2016 #22
LanternWaste Oct 2016 #18
allan01 Oct 2016 #9
ailsagirl Oct 2016 #12
forest444 Oct 2016 #21
RAFisher Oct 2016 #13
Coyotl Oct 2016 #17

Response to wishstar (Original post)

Wed Oct 12, 2016, 06:30 PM

1. Contractors have our data?

 


That's not right.

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Response to Wilms (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 12, 2016, 06:44 PM

3. Voting machines and software should be infrastructure.

The things that have happened in Ohio with the final vote tallies being conducted on private servers with proprietary software. What a good way to get people to be confidant in fair elections. Put them in the hands of private, for profit companies.

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Response to mjvpi (Reply #3)

Wed Oct 12, 2016, 07:19 PM

10. Very much agreed.

 

Lever machines were public infrastructure...but that's another story.

They need to be paper based. And they need to be PROPERLY audited. Sometimes it takes only a mistake, not fraud, to screw things up.

Most of the audit protocol laws, where they exist, are kind of week.

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Response to mjvpi (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 13, 2016, 07:11 AM

14. They are.

So are electrical grids and toll roads under private management and sewer lines and cables for tv and internet.

Lots of those things are managed or even owned by private companies. But they're still infrastructure.

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Response to mjvpi (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 13, 2016, 08:58 AM

15. That simply is not true.

 

Counties counted their votes in Ohio and reported them. You write "Ohio with the final vote tallies being conducted on private servers" when in fact they were "reported" from a contracted server because the OH SoS computer could not handle the load on election night. But every jurisdiction in Ohio knew their totals and had to do official reporting some days later. Not one county found any discrepancy between their reporting to the SoS on election night and the final, official reports. Everything added up perfectly.

Quit spreading voter suppression misinformation!

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Response to wishstar (Original post)

Wed Oct 12, 2016, 06:48 PM

4. Most breach come from phishing and malware

Not direct attacks
Phishing breach are even harder to stop because they ' re using regular accounts
You have to see if you have irregular logins and activity

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Response to wishstar (Original post)

Wed Oct 12, 2016, 06:48 PM

5. This is one reason I am not comfortable with the idea that Hillary is a shoe-in.

This, plus..
voter intimidation
violence
and who know what else....

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Response to wishstar (Original post)

Wed Oct 12, 2016, 06:49 PM

6. send their ambassador home nt

 

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Response to wishstar (Original post)

Wed Oct 12, 2016, 06:55 PM

7. UNIVERSAL VOTE BY MAIL. PAPER TRAIL, PAPER BALLOTS

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Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #7)

Wed Oct 12, 2016, 07:21 PM

11. Hear, hear.

Electronic voting and/or tabulation is far too vulnerable to hacking; what's more the devices have often been deliberately designed to be that way. For every one of these incidents we learn of, there are probably 50 that we don't.

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Response to wishstar (Original post)

Wed Oct 12, 2016, 06:57 PM

8. To make sure votes are ok

Every contractor should provide a. Web site were anyone could verify their vote
Say receive a tracking number and password when you vote
That way, it would be hard to do vote fraud
Independent audit of this data should also be the norm post election

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Response to Foggyhill (Reply #8)

Thu Oct 13, 2016, 09:00 AM

16. Ridiculous. We have a right to vote in private. You want a hackable list of who voted for whom?

 

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #16)

Thu Oct 13, 2016, 05:26 PM

19. All that I'd you is the random number you got as receipt

You can verify your vote but it is not traceable

This is a bit like the keys used to secure connections
There is a private key and a public one

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Response to Foggyhill (Reply #19)

Thu Oct 13, 2016, 06:21 PM

20. Tell that to the IT guys who get hacked all the time.

 

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #20)

Thu Oct 13, 2016, 09:16 PM

22. There is nothing to hack this is anonymous

The number is not matched with the name, it's just issued to you when you vote
Btw, I'm an engineer with 30 years of experience in computer,software, systems including security

Most "hacks" you hear about are not even hacks in traditional sense, merely using phishing and malware to compromise accounts

Best way to protect data is not to have it...
in this case they would only have a random number and how this number voted, no names or any identifying info

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Response to Foggyhill (Reply #8)

Thu Oct 13, 2016, 04:41 PM

18. You should read Sinclair's 'The Jungle' for an in-depth explanation

You should read Sinclair's 'The Jungle' for an in-depth explanation as to why voter receipts are not part and parcel of the system.

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Response to wishstar (Original post)

Wed Oct 12, 2016, 07:15 PM

9. paper and ink ballots only . period

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Response to wishstar (Original post)

Wed Oct 12, 2016, 07:53 PM

12. So what do US authorities plan to do about it?

This is scaring the hell out of me-- esp. when I recall drumpf standing there at a rally, reassuring his minions, "I'm gonna win-- believe me"

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Response to ailsagirl (Reply #12)

Thu Oct 13, 2016, 06:40 PM

21. If Drumpf wins, they'll hand the whole enchilada to Diebold, Sequoia, and ES&S.

Such that Rapepublicans would never have to worry about election outcomes again, much like the Temer regime did in Brazil recently with municipal elections their candidates "unexpectedly" swept.

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Response to wishstar (Original post)

Wed Oct 12, 2016, 08:12 PM

13. This is a complete non-story. Also voter data is public in the state of Florida.


Investigators believe a local contractor in California was the target of a hackers, but the systems accessed weren't related the elections, U.S. officials said.

A spokeswoman for the Florida Secretary of State said: "We currently have no indication of a Florida-specific issue. The Florida Voter Registration System database is secure. The Department of State does not utilize a vendor for voter registration services. The Department has in place many safeguards to prevent any possible attempts from being successful."


So no hack. And as I said, everything you write on a Florida voter registration form is public data. If you voted is public data. You're address. Your political party. Of course you're ballot is private with no way to trace back to you.

So I'm still trying to understand what they were even after.

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Response to RAFisher (Reply #13)

Thu Oct 13, 2016, 09:02 AM

17. These false stories are designed to suppress voting by eroding confidence in election integrity.

 

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