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brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 09:58 AM Oct 2016

House Democrats believe Trump troubles give them real shot at retaking majority

Source: Washington Post

Top Democratic strategists are moving to capitalize on the extraordinary events of the last several days, now believing they have a real shot of retaking the House majority after a slew of Republican lawmakers renounced their support of Donald Trump over his lewd comments captured on video.

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Fresh internal polls conducted by the DCCC — the House Democrats’ campaign arm — after the second presidential debate on Sunday night painted a grim picture for Republican lawmakers.

They show that Republicans — who started moving en masse against Trump after the revelations in the videotape — faced a backlash regardless of whether they continued to support Trump or not. On Monday, House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) told his colleagues in a conference call that he will no longer campaign for or defend Trump in public, but did not entirely rescind his support for the GOP presidential nominee.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/10/10/house-democrats-believe-trump-troubles-give-them-real-shot-at-retaking-majority/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_trumpcongress-0945pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&tid=a_inl

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beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
1. if democrats get off their asses and vote, this is a real possibility especially with the
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 10:01 AM
Oct 2016

fracturing of mainstream GOP/voters with trump/trump zealots......and the ability of the democratic candidates to frame their conservative opponent as "trump-lite"....


no matter how many 100's of millions Koch brothers throw into these races

Botany

(70,490 posts)
2. Wow Trump could give us the House
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 10:06 AM
Oct 2016

Barring an unforeseeable, if not miraculous, political recovery for Mr. Trump, the Republican
exodus from his camp is expected to pick up pace in the coming days as lawmakers digest
his debate performance and receive new polling on how voters are processing his apparent
demise. Even then, Republicans may be hard-pressed to fully desert a nominee who maintains
a powerful following in the party base.

That abiding loyalty is what alarms party strategists: Even if just 5 percent of the most reliable
Republican voters do not vote or cast a ballot only for Mr. Trump, it would ensure that Republicans
lose nearly every close congressional race.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/10/us/politics/republicans-trump.html?smprod=nytcore-ipad&smid=nytcore-ipad-share&_r=1

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If Trump quits or is forced off the ticket then his mouth breathing base will stay home and if he stays on the
ticket many old time republicans (especially women) might not vote this time. The GOP is screwed.

BTW Trump makes dogs throw up.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512492910

cab67

(2,992 posts)
3. backlash?
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 10:11 AM
Oct 2016

"They show that Republicans — who started moving en masse against Trump after the revelations in the videotape — faced a backlash regardless of whether they continued to support Trump or not."

And they've got no one but themselves to blame.

Bibliovore

(185 posts)
4. If we take both houses, can we start with election reform?
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 10:17 AM
Oct 2016

Kill gerrymandering? Legislate fair and transparent campaign financing rules? Ban uncheckable ballot machines/software? Prohibit barriers to voting?

4lbs

(6,855 posts)
5. Even if we retake the Senate and the House, unless we get 59 in the Senate (Bernie being #60),
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 10:20 AM
Oct 2016

I'm sure the vile GrOPers will use the filibuster to block and delay as much as possible until the 2018 midterm elections.

Nevertheless, retake Congress and make them squirm!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
6. One expert reported when House members adjourned 2 weeks ago
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 10:22 AM
Oct 2016

they thought hat losses would probably be in single digits, i.e., 9 at most, and that it is only within the last very few days that they suddenly realize they could lose 30 or more.

I'm trying not to hyperventilate, stay philosophical. This is all too volatile. But please, please, please. For everyone's sake, including very much the Republicans. This may not be the big change they were thinking of, but it would be the first step to reclaiming their party for conservatism.

BumRushDaShow

(128,855 posts)
8. Finally have an article (the OP) that lays out some numbers
Tue Oct 11, 2016, 12:20 PM
Oct 2016
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Winning control of the Senate, where Republicans hold a slim 4-seat majority, has long been considered a much easier feat for Democrats as there are a number of GOP incumbents in blue states up for reelection. But securing the House majority was always seen as a longshot. As recently as last month, House Democratic leaders speculated that they might win 20 seats, still 10 short of their 30-seat goal.

With the videotape and Trump’s decision to highlight Bill Clinton’s peccadillos, Democrats think they now have the upper hand with independents, moderates and women in heavily populated suburban districts.

Democrats have their eyes on the 26 Republican House districts that Obama won in 2012 and an additional 23 where he came close to winning. That means taking on Republican incumbents like Reps. Barbara Comstock (R-Va.) in the suburbs of Washington, D.C., Mike Coffman in eastern Denver, Erik Paulsen outside of Minneapolis and Crescent Hardy outside of Las Vegas. All of those Republicans have rejected Trump, many of them in the last couple of days.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/10/10/house-democrats-believe-trump-troubles-give-them-real-shot-at-retaking-majority/

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I know that we have 2 seats here in SE PA - the currently extremely-gerrymandered 7th Congressional and the 8th Congressional that are R now where both had been (barely) D in 2008 and were lost in 2010. Redistricting after the 2010 census ahead of the 2012 election reddened them up even more but the potential is still there with the demographic shifts in those areas since 2010.

Another WaPo analysis article waffles back and forth about the Senate -

Trump’s problems don’t automatically mean Democrats will win the Senate

By Stuart Rothenberg October 11 at 6:15 AM

The “Trump tape” and its fallout have changed the national political landscape, creating new problems for Republican strategists charged with retaining control of the Senate. But while recent events have put GOP candidates on the defensive, the two parties remain locked in a tight fight for Senate control.

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Before the Trump tape issue emerged, there was no indication that a national partisan wave had developed. That’s important, because in a partisan wave Senate seats often fall in one direction. However, the lack of a wave in no way guarantees the two parties will “split” toss-up races, and Trump’s candidacy is so damaged that experienced Republican observers are extremely nervous.

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Unlike the presidential contest, which has had a clear trajectory since after the national party conventions, the fight for the Senate has always been murkier. A little more than a month ago I wrote that Republican Senate prospects had improved compared to six months earlier, primarily because Republican incumbents in Ohio and Florida were in fundamentally better shape than expected. But, I also concluded, “Right now, the most likely outcome is a Democratic gain of four or five seats.”

The strangest presidential campaign in American political history could well get stranger before Nov. 8. But right now, Democratic Senate gains in the four to five0seat range still look most likely – which would give Democrats control of the Senate. Significantly larger Democratic gains certainly are possible, of course, especially if GOP-held Senate seats in Florida and Ohio once again become at risk.


The above analysis had noted some sudden issues in the Bayh campaign in IN and the weaknesses of the PA & NH races, along with the problem in NV with Harry Reid's seat. All of this is going to require some major turnout operations.

In any case, as of around 10 am today, 538 has Hillary up to 88.1% vs 11.8% for Trump & Democrats @ 54.8% as the chance to take the Senate. Here in PA, since we are one of the few states that has straight-ticket voting, that will probably be the only way McGinty gets it and state Dems have to drive that home because GOP-affiliated super PACs have been relentless attacking McGinty.
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