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Mon Sep 19, 2016, 11:49 AM

Russian President Vladimir Putin Reportedly Planning Reforms to Effectively Resurrect KGB

Source: ABC News

President Vladimir Putin is planning a major restructuring of the country’s security services that would effectively mean a rebirth of the KGB, according to a report in the Russian media.

Respected business paper Kommersant quoted anonymous officials as saying that a new body called the “Ministry for State Security” would be established before Russia’s 2018 presidential elections that, in its powers and roles, appears to closely resemble the Soviet-era KGB.

The new body would be known by the acronym “MGB.”

The reforms would restore most of the KGB’s functions to its successor service, the FSB, while also returning the foreign intelligence gathering to the same body, according to the newspaper.

The result would be a single powerful security structure, sitting at the heart of the state's enforcement machinery, much as the KGB once did in the Soviet Union.


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Reply Russian President Vladimir Putin Reportedly Planning Reforms to Effectively Resurrect KGB (Original post)
megahertz Sep 2016 OP
Dawson Leery Sep 2016 #1
Purveyor Sep 2016 #3
Wilms Sep 2016 #4
DetlefK Sep 2016 #6
Post removed Sep 2016 #16
DetlefK Sep 2016 #17
backscatter712 Sep 2016 #2
EX500rider Sep 2016 #5
madokie Sep 2016 #18
tclambert Sep 2016 #7
Hekate Sep 2016 #8
Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2016 #9
Blue_Tires Sep 2016 #10
LuvNewcastle Sep 2016 #11
Joe Chi Minh Sep 2016 #14
George the Retiree Sep 2016 #12
JustABozoOnThisBus Sep 2016 #13
Joe Chi Minh Sep 2016 #15

Response to megahertz (Original post)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 11:58 AM

1. Hillary must win. Then we must

bring Ukraine into NATO and the EU. We must arm Ukraine to stop Russia from attacking Europe and place more military into the Baltic states.

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Response to Dawson Leery (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 12:11 PM

3. Wow. Have you or your kids enlisted and suited up for this fight? eom

 

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Response to Dawson Leery (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 12:17 PM

4. Don't be a neo-con.

 

It's really not cool. Not cool at all.

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Response to Dawson Leery (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 12:36 PM

6. Bullshit. The West will do this with the same method they used to conquer East Germany and Ukraine:

In the 1950s or 1960s (I forgot), a lowly professor of electric engineering of West Germany went to East Germany and negotiated for a standardization of television broadcast encoding. A simple, non-political issue of defining technological standards. But with far-reaching geopolitical consequences.
That's why East Germany was able to receive and view western TV. And that's how the citizens of East Germany were able to see what life outside of their "socialist worker's paradise" was actually like. This ultimately led to the mass-protests in the late 1980s, which ultimately led to the collapse of the GDR in 1989.

Same thing with Ukraine. They are able to compare life in Europe and life in Russia.
Yanukovych wanted to play both sides and make deals with both sides, while secretly favoring Russia. Except that the EU said "us or them". Forced to make a hard choice between Europe and Russia, Ukraine broke apart along cultural fault-lines, with one half picking Europe and one half picking Russia.



And the same thing will happen with Cuba and North Korea.
The tourists will give Cuba a taste of freedom and the communist regime cannot hold them back forever.
The North Koreans know that they are being lied to and being oppressed, they just don't know what the rest of the world is like.

Information and an open clashes of ideas. Words! That's how Putin's Russia will be defeated. That's why North Korea is keeping its citizens uninformed and that's why russian trolls are busy planting fake stories all over the internet.

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Tue Sep 20, 2016, 03:21 AM

17. Well, what's YOUR take on the topic?

What's your take on how East Germany collapsed?

What's your take on how Ukraine collapsed?

What's your take on North Korea's stability?

What's your take on the russian internet-trolls that have been confirmed by russian journalists, on how critics of Putin keep dying under suspicious circumstances, how russian soldiers are "going on vacation" in Eastern Ukraine, how Russia is occupying Crimea and parts of Georgia, how (according to the russian polling-institute Lewada) 51% of Russians don't trust the result of the latest election (where United Russia happened to make massive gains amid dropping voter-participation and widespread reports of election-fraud), on Russia passing extremely restrictive protest-laws, on Chechnya (ruled my murdering strongman Kadyrov) giving 99% of the vote to Putin?
What's your take on russian hackers trying to influence US-elections?

What do you make of russian propaganda?
Here's a challenge for you:
Go to the homepage of Russia Today and find ONE story that paints the US in a positive light. Just one.
Go to the homepage of Russia Today and find ONE story that paints Hillary Clinton in a positive light. Just one.
Go to the homepage of Russia Today and find ONE story that paints Donald Trump in a bad light. Just one.





Add it up.

Putin is a Cold War-relic who wants to re-establish the status of Russia as an empire, just as it was during the later years of the Soviet Union. And he believes that Russia is geopolitically under attack. (The Baltic States moving closer to Scandinavia and EU/NATO, NATO building missile-defence in Poland and Romania, Ukraine leaving Russia, Syria in trouble, the price of oil down, anti-russian hysteria in the West...)

The only way to solve this is increased communication, increased sharing of information and talking it out.

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Response to megahertz (Original post)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 12:02 PM

2. And this is who Trump and his mob of authoritarians want to emulate...

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Response to megahertz (Original post)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 12:21 PM

5. Not sure how they are all going to fit in there...

....MGB's aren't very big...

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Response to EX500rider (Reply #5)

Tue Sep 20, 2016, 07:07 AM

18. I'd love to have that car

putin on the other hand can go fuck himself

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Response to megahertz (Original post)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 12:44 PM

7. Putin's policy summed up succinctly:

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Response to megahertz (Original post)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 02:00 PM

8. The old KGB guy never stopped being what he is. Dubya was a fool and DTs is a tool.

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Response to megahertz (Original post)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 02:20 PM

9. "The new body would be known by the acronym “MGB.”"

 

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Response to megahertz (Original post)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 02:32 PM

10. Snowden was unavailable for comment

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Response to megahertz (Original post)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 03:23 PM

11. I find it hard to criticize them for resurrecting the KGB

when we have the CIA, DHS, NSA, and god knows who else not only spying on foreigners, but people right here in the U.S. Is anybody on this thread experiencing any cognitive dissonance here?

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Response to LuvNewcastle (Reply #11)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 06:07 PM

14. Not much ! Beyond laughable.

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Response to megahertz (Original post)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 04:03 PM

12. Aw, shit

 

Ministerstvo is way harder to pronounce than Komitet.

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Response to megahertz (Original post)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 05:45 PM

13. Sheesh, did they have to call it "MGB"?

I always liked the MGB.


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Response to JustABozoOnThisBus (Reply #13)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 06:08 PM

15. Then there were the Motor Gun Boats in WWII.

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