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Fri Sep 2, 2016, 03:41 PM

FDA Orders Antibacterials Removed From Consumer Soaps

Source: NBC News

Say goodbye to those "antibacterial" soaps. The Food and Drug Administration says they do little or nothing to make soap work any better and said the industry has failed to prove they're safe.

Companies will have a year to take the ingredients out of the products, the FDA said. They include triclosan and triclocarban. Soap manufacturers will have an extra year to negotiate over other, less commonly used ingredients such as benzalkonium chloride.

"Companies will no longer be able to market antibacterial washes with these ingredients because manufacturers did not demonstrate that the ingredients are both safe for long-term daily use and more effective than plain soap and water in preventing illness and the spread of certain infections," the FDA said in a statement.

"Some manufacturers have already started removing these ingredients from their products."

Read more: http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/fda-orders-antibacterials-removed-consumer-soaps-n642036

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Reply FDA Orders Antibacterials Removed From Consumer Soaps (Original post)
Seedersandleechers Sep 2016 OP
yallerdawg Sep 2016 #1
tammywammy Sep 2016 #2
tymorial Sep 2016 #3
4lbs Sep 2016 #5
forest444 Sep 2016 #16
left-of-center2012 Sep 2016 #17
4lbs Sep 2016 #18
Thor_MN Sep 2016 #33
bucolic_frolic Sep 2016 #4
Cal Carpenter Sep 2016 #20
bucolic_frolic Sep 2016 #21
Kennah Sep 2016 #24
shenmue Sep 2016 #26
Seedersandleechers Sep 2016 #6
PatSeg Sep 2016 #7
tammywammy Sep 2016 #8
Post removed Sep 2016 #9
neeksgeek Sep 2016 #10
Hekate Sep 2016 #11
ffr Sep 2016 #12
smirkymonkey Sep 2016 #15
brett_jv Sep 2016 #34
TonyPDX Sep 2016 #13
mucifer Sep 2016 #27
TonyPDX Sep 2016 #30
demigoddess Sep 2016 #14
HockeyMom Sep 2016 #19
tavernier Sep 2016 #31
ToxMarz Sep 2016 #22
IthinkThereforeIAM Sep 2016 #25
Recursion Sep 2016 #29
BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2016 #23
Warren DeMontague Sep 2016 #28
Unit 001 Sep 2016 #32

Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Fri Sep 2, 2016, 03:49 PM

1. Antibacterial soap has been on the market for my entire life?

The FDA says it probably doesn't work and may be bad for us.

Isn't this all backwards?

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Fri Sep 2, 2016, 03:51 PM

2. Finally!

It's been so difficult to find soaps without triclosan in it. You don't need antibacterial products in soap. Using triclosan free soap and scrubbing for 20 seconds = antibacterial.

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Fri Sep 2, 2016, 03:58 PM

3. So they removing alcohol

Got it

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Response to tymorial (Reply #3)

Fri Sep 2, 2016, 04:07 PM

5. No, they are removing triclosan, which is the "main" ingredient in many anti-bacterial soaps.

I just use regular non-antibacterial hand soap, and then a hand sanitizer.

Works much, much, better.

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Response to 4lbs (Reply #5)

Fri Sep 2, 2016, 05:25 PM

16. Good.

I understand it's also a hormone disruptor in children. Goodness knows we don't need them any stranger than they already are these days.

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Response to 4lbs (Reply #5)

Fri Sep 2, 2016, 05:25 PM

17. "hand sanitizer"

I've heard they don't work?

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Reply #17)

Fri Sep 2, 2016, 05:31 PM

18. The alcohol based ones do.

Get one that is at least 80% alcohol.

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Response to 4lbs (Reply #18)

Sat Sep 3, 2016, 11:29 PM

33. All the alcohol is doing is drying your hands.

 

The drying action of the alcohol is what gives it antibiotic properties. If someone is giving you a shot and they don't wait for the alcohol swipe to dry, they are doing it wrong.

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Fri Sep 2, 2016, 03:59 PM

4. What are consumers going to use

to treat fear of bacteria?

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #4)

Fri Sep 2, 2016, 07:56 PM

20. Hopefully something that doesn't make the bacteria harder to combat

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Response to Cal Carpenter (Reply #20)

Fri Sep 2, 2016, 08:00 PM

21. You mean like

shrinks?

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #21)

Fri Sep 2, 2016, 10:42 PM

24. I was thinking weed (n/t)

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #21)

Sat Sep 3, 2016, 01:17 AM

26. Huh

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Fri Sep 2, 2016, 04:08 PM

6. What's really crazy is that

using regular soap is in itself an antibacterial.

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Reply #6)

Fri Sep 2, 2016, 04:11 PM

7. This is true

They've done tests and in most cases "antibacterial" is no more effective than "soap". Even just washing with water can remove bacteria.

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Reply #6)

Fri Sep 2, 2016, 04:18 PM

8. Exactly.

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Fri Sep 2, 2016, 04:21 PM

10. About damn time! n/t

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Fri Sep 2, 2016, 04:22 PM

11. How about immediately?

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Fri Sep 2, 2016, 04:47 PM

12. Good! I've stopped buying those too.

If there are some germs on my hands well guess what, it was meant to be. I'm okay with that.

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Response to ffr (Reply #12)

Fri Sep 2, 2016, 05:18 PM

15. Same here. I have never been very paranoid about germs.

My philosophy has always been "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger". I never use hand sanitizer or any of that stuff. I rarely get sick. I always wondered why children these days seem to be allergic to everything and get sick all the time and sometimes I wonder if it's because they live in such protected, sanitized environments.

So many of my nieces and nephews have allergies and are always getting infections. My siblings and I never had any allergies and were rarely sick. I don't ever recall growing up with anyone who had food allergies. I don't have proof that not being exposed to germs is the cause of this, it's just anecdotal, but it makes me wonder.

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #15)

Sun Sep 4, 2016, 05:11 PM

34. I agree ... I've NEVER been concerned much with 'germs' ...

I mean I wash after I #2 of course, and prior to preparing food, but that's about it. I can't tell you how many burgers and sandwiches I've chowed down w/o even thinking "i need to wash my hands first". And I've been that way my whole life ... and basically I never get sick. I believe it's because I've been this way my whole life. My body has built defenses since I was a child.

Parents actually do their children a disservice by trying to keep everything around them so sanitary ... if kids were so easily 'hurt' by germs, none of us would be here, because for the 1M years of our presence on this planet, there's only been 'soap' and 'indoor plumbing' and such for a TINY portion of that time. Our bodies are MEANT to exposed to all these germs when we're young ... and if you're NOT ... it's far worse for you in the long run.

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Fri Sep 2, 2016, 05:01 PM

13. Haven't used them in years, but thanks to the FDA I won't pick on up by mistake.

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Response to TonyPDX (Reply #13)

Sat Sep 3, 2016, 01:41 AM

27. I bet you have in public rest rooms

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Response to mucifer (Reply #27)

Sat Sep 3, 2016, 10:54 AM

30. Come to think of it, you're right. Glad they'll be gone.

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Fri Sep 2, 2016, 05:05 PM

14. Hallelujah!

they finally got a clue!

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Fri Sep 2, 2016, 05:48 PM

19. Public schools

All they have are these Anti-bacterial soaps, which make my hands raw and bleed; same as latex gloves. I brought my own plain old bar of soap into school when I worked there. All the young kids wanted to use my bar of soap to wash their hands. Tell your Mama to give you a bar of soap to take to school. Will the public schools stop staff, or students, from washing their hand with non-Anti-bacterial bars of plain soap? Nope. Washing hands is more important than what you use to do it with.

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Response to HockeyMom (Reply #19)

Sat Sep 3, 2016, 11:17 AM

31. My grandson said No Worries...

Said he stayed safe by never washing his hands in school.

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Fri Sep 2, 2016, 08:08 PM

22. Didn't know these were actually harmful, just though they weren't effective in protecting

people from getting germs. I don't worry about germs, but I use Dial antibacterial soap and when I don't I can notice at the end of the day my armpits smell like armpits (in hot humid Miami). I don't know if it's the antibacterial, but when i use my Mom's Dove soap it's not the same.

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Response to ToxMarz (Reply #22)

Sat Sep 3, 2016, 01:16 AM

25. Dial was recommended by doctors...


... back in the 70's and 80's to my cousins that suffered from acne problems. The doctors said it was more effective at helping control the acne than other soaps at the time, ie... Zest, Irish Spring, Dove....

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Response to ToxMarz (Reply #22)

Sat Sep 3, 2016, 08:45 AM

29. Not so much that the soap is harmful to the person using it to wash their hands

but that the industrial processes use to create the soap, and what it leaves in the greywater it runs off into, are problematic.

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Fri Sep 2, 2016, 08:53 PM

23. It's about fucking time.

Jeeeeezussss, it took long enough. I never ever bought them, because I knew when that damn gimmick came out, it was a perfect recipe for bacteria to develop tolerance.

Don't you sometimes wish you couldn't see this crap 20 years before the rest of the people start waking up?
Might be less stressful.

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Sat Sep 3, 2016, 04:28 AM

28. hell, soap? they put triclosan in toothpaste.

if you don't want to wash your hands with it, think about putting it in your mouth.

http://www.ada.org/en/publications/ada-news/2014-archive/august/ada-issues-statement-on-triclosan-in-toothpaste

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Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

Sat Sep 3, 2016, 05:07 PM

32. Good!

 

Stopped using that crap a long time ago.

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